Manhattanite previously said:


British also somewhat redeemed themselves by driving abolition, though this was not all for altruistic reasons.

Lautaro previously said:



You're right on this one. Their main drive with abolition was to bankrupt the french, american and brazilian plantation economies. The philosophy of "if it can't be mine, it will be no one else" at its finest.

Manhattanite previously said:

let's not only pick on the snooty Frenchmen! British attitude in the Caribbean was similar to the French. Many English colonies are just as Laut described the French, little more than traces of plantations left behind in terms of structures. Note that Jamaica within a few years after Haitian Revolution exceeded the output of Haiti at it's peak.

Brits were also the champions in transporting slaves to the New World. However, perhaps because they were the main slave traders dealing with Africans, they had a better understanding of 'divide and conquer' and they never made the massive, greedy errors of France that led to the Haitian revolution.

Nonetheless it is hard to read the French as anything but vicious bastards ... for another example both Brit and French islands made use of labor from India in mid-1800s, but on the French islands these peoples were driven into the (burial) ground and hence left much less of a mark than in Brit territories.

British also somewhat redeemed themselves by driving abolition, though this was not all for altruistic reasons.

Lautaro previously said:

The only reason explaining why the brits haven't been as picked on and maligned as the french, is because they have been successful in almost all of their imperial endeavours. Had they fared differently, humanity would be singing quite a different tune about them. MacArthur was right on the fact that there's no substitute for victory, cuz' if this were not so, there would be more hype about Napoleon's military exploits than what is common today, notwithstanding the fact of his being ignominiously defeated by the allied powers of the time.

Pepe32 previously said:

Today when I took a dump ,three Haitians came out and try to take over my house ..