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#1 - Posted 16 May 2009, 10:30 AM
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QUISQUEYA is the name of the land occupied by the State denominated Dom. Rep.
The name of our country is Quisqueya.
We are first "Quisqueyan". That is our nationality.
Quisqueya is the land, the soil that give our people avocados, mangos and all kinds of fruits; the place that offers beautiful landscapes with rivers, mountains, plains, beaches, keys, ocean, sea and beautiful sky. Quisqueya is the land of people with unique history, culture and behavior.

The Dominican Republic is the denomination of the State that was created in 1844 under the principles drawn by Juan Pablo Duarte. The State is the entity that regulates the lives of the people and the political division of powers and territory, based on what we call "CONSTITUTION".

It is strange that one of the few Constitutions that don't bear the name of the country is Dominican Republic. Each country in the world has her name after the denomination of the State. Here are some samples:

United States OF AMERICA
Bolivarian Republic OF VENEZUELA
Republic OF CHILE
Commonwealth OF PUERTO RICO
United States OF MEXICO
Principality OF ANDORRA
Kingdom OF CAMBODIA
Arab Republic OF EGYPT
Commonwealth OF DOMINICA
Kingdom OF SPAIN

Some countries are also known just by the denomination of the State:

Szchek Republic ...
Slovak Republic...
Argentine Republic...

The territory affected by those States is exclusively used by the people and country bearing the noun for the adjective, i.e., Szchek, Slovakia, Argentina.

The Dominican Republic is not DOMINICA and DOMINICAN (OR DOMINICANA) is not an appropriate noun that can be used as the following:
REPUBLIC OF DOMINICANA
REPUBLIC OF ARGENTINA
REPUBLIC OF SLOVAKIA

QUISQUEYA was the name chosen by the remaining of the "Trinity Members" after the Restoration of the Independence in 1865. Duarte's remains were received and given burial ceremony with our official National Anthem ("Quisqueyanos Valientes". We are "Quisqueyans" first, "Dominicans", while occupying part of the island of Santo Domingo, along with other communities, such as the people of Haiti, the people of Dominica and the missionaries and nuns of the religious Order of Santo Domingo.

We should not leave these tasks to future generations. 165 years in oblivion is enough. Let's honor the name and memory of Duarte, the "Trinity Members" and all those heroes and martyrs who fought for the land we call Quisqueya, free, sovereign and independence from foreign powers.



Edited on 5/18/2009 10:46 AM by CONSTITUCION.
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#2 - Posted 16 May 2009, 12:17 PM
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QUISQUEYA was the name chosen by the remaining of the "Trinity Members" after the Restoration of the Independence in 1865. Duarte's remains were received and given burial ceremony with our official National Anthem ("Quisqueyanos Valientes". We are "Quisqueyans" first, "Dominicans", while occupying part of the island of Santo Domingo, along with other communities, such as the people of Haiti, the people of Dominica and the missionaries and nuns of the religious Order of Santo Domingo.


The Trinity Members repeated the name of the first inhabitants who called their home Ayiti, Kiskeya or Bohio... regardless of the spelling because the Taino didn't use our alphabet.

Historically, this island has not been known as Santo Domingo. The Haitian side was called Saint Domingue, however.

Once we bring up the word Quisquéya, Kiskeya, we refer back in time when this island was not separated and the population was mixed anyway. It was populated by Arawak and Taino, who even spoke different languages.
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En nombre de la santísima, augustísima e indivisible Trinidad de Dios Omnipotente: juro y prometo, por mi honor y mi conciencia, en manos de nuestro presidente Juan Pablo Duarte, cooperar con mi persona, vida y bienes a la separación definitiva del gobierno haitiano y a implantar una república libre, soberana e independiente de toda dominación extranjera, que se denominará República Dominicana; la cual tendrá su pabellón tricolor en cuartos, encarnados y azules, atravesado con una cruz blanca. Mientras tanto seremos reconocidos los Trinitarios con las palabras sacramentales: Dios, Patria y Libertad. Así lo prometo ante Dios y el mundo. Si tal cosa hago, Dios me proteja; y de no, me lo tome en cuenta y mis consocios me castiguen el perjuicio y la traición si os vendo
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REPUBLICA DOMINICANA just fine.
Edited on 5/17/2009 3:37 AM by Gizmo.
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#5 - Posted 17 May 2009, 6:01 PM
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Thank you "lakiskeyana", somewhat my point here is that there are two countries sharing the island of Santo Domingo. One of the countries is Haiti, that her people chose that name to break away from the names given by Spain or France in the past (Santo Domingo, Saint Domingue, Espanola, etc.), regardless of the real existence of this word or whether it was a Taino word or not.
Santo Domingo is the name of the island, because in every international treaty between Haiti and the Dominican Republic is so stated. Historically, Spain named the island Santo Domingo and gave a Royal Identification Card to the free dwellers born in the island naming them "Dominicans" in 1621.
In all International treaties about the island, between Spain and France (Ryswick, Basilea) the name of the island is registered as Santo Domingo.
"Espanola", which was the name use by Christopher Columbus to "baptize" the island, was later rejected by the Spanish Crown, because they didn't want to have "Spaniards" born away from the Iberian Peninsula. The same they did with the "New Spain" that they agreed to name her Mexico.
As per the name "Hispaniola", it was a name picked by an Agency of the United States of America, in 1939, due to the conflict that existed between the constitutions of the two countries owning the island. One constitution calls the island "Haiti"; while the other calls it "Santo Domingo" (even to this date). Only owners of a thing or person can legally give name to that thing or person.

The campaign to name "Quisqueya" the country denominated Dominican Republic is not a bizarre one. It is overdue and is the time to do it, now that the Constitution is being "revised",

Our National Anthem, written and approved by "Trinity Members" has to be honored. Like the Haitians, let us break away from the colonialist ties. By naming the country "Quisqueya", we are correcting a long time mistake. The United States, after its independence, waited 10 years before realizing that they didn't have a name for the country. They name her "America" in their Constitution.

Adding the name to our Constitution will not change her Flag, her Coat of Arms and less her National Anthem. Yet, a much needed changes will be produced then after: education, moral and civic values and the beginning of a new historical era. We'll be the only "Quisqueyans" in the world, where there are too many "Dominicans".

Guillermone, ¡Long live the Dominican Republic!! ¡¡¡YES!!!
AND ¡LONG LIVE THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OF QUISQUEYA!
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#6 - Posted 17 May 2009, 6:10 PM
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GIZMO, If it was just fine I wouldn't be worrying about. There will be many things for future generations to worry about, but this is one we can take care of now. It is overdue.

I am one who sometimes say:

"Quisqueyans are the ones who love our land and defend her; while, Dominicans are many from several communities and societies"

DOMINICANS born in Quisqueya;
DOMINICANS born in Haiti, while we claim that the name of the island is Santo Domingo;
DOMINICANS born in Dominica; and,
DOMINICANS missioneries and nuns from the religious Order of Santo Domingo.

Remember, all National symbols will remain the same, even our NATIONAL ANTHEM.

WE'RE PROUD OF THEM!
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Thank you "lakiskeyana", somewhat my point here is that there are two countries sharing the island of Santo Domingo. One of the countries is Haiti, that her people chose that name to break away from the names given by Spain or France in the past (Santo Domingo, Saint Domingue, Espanola, etc.), regardless of the real existence of this word or whether it was a Taino word or not.
Santo Domingo is the name of the island, because in every international treaty between Haiti and the Dominican Republic is so stated. Historically, Spain named the island Santo Domingo and gave a Royal Identification Card to the free dwellers born in the island naming them "Dominicans" in 1621.
In all International treaties about the island, between Spain and France (Ryswick, Basilea) the name of the island is registered as Santo Domingo.
"Espanola", which was the name use by Christopher Columbus to "baptize" the island, was later rejected by the Spanish Crown, because they didn't want to have "Spaniards" born away from the Iberian Peninsula. The same they did with the "New Spain" that they agreed to name her Mexico.
As per the name "Hispaniola", it was a name picked by an Agency of the United States of America, in 1939, due to the conflict that existed between the constitutions of the two countries owning the island. One constitution calls the island "Haiti"; while the other calls it "Santo Domingo" (even to this date). Only owners of a thing or person can legally give name to that thing or person.

The campaign to name "Quisqueya" the country denominated Dominican Republic is not a bizarre one. It is overdue and is the time to do it, now that the Constitution is being "revised",

Our National Anthem, written and approved by "Trinity Members" has to be honored. Like the Haitians, let us break away from the colonialist ties. By naming the country "Quisqueya", we are correcting a long time mistake. The United States, after its independence, waited 10 years before realizing that they didn't have a name for the country. They name her "America" in their Constitution.

Adding the name to our Constitution will not change her Flag, her Coat of Arms and less her National Anthem. Yet, a much needed changes will be produced then after: education, moral and civic values and the beginning of a new historical era. We'll be the only "Quisqueyans" in the world, where there are too many "Dominicans".

Guillermone, ¡Long live the Dominican Republic!! ¡¡¡YES!!!
AND ¡LONG LIVE THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC OF QUISQUEYA!

Gizmo Why you want to change the name of the country, the name is Republica Dominicana that's it!!!!! The name Quisqueya is the name of the whole island back when the Tainos were relavent.
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#8 - Posted 17 May 2009, 6:34 PM
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Thank you Guillernone, but that, the pledge used by the “Trinity Members”, was precisely the source from which we founded our theory.

The word "denomination" is not naming the country; it is giving the State a form and a style.

Duarte was expelled from that State before he could make additional contribution to our statehood, including the name of the country, a Coat of Arms, a National Anthem, etc.

By giving our country the name of Quisqueya, we'll be honoring Duarte and all the people that has lived and defended this land through history, dating more than 516 years.

Remember that we were not the ones who gave us the adjective of "Dominicans". It was given to us by Spain and people before 1844 accepted this adjective because it was right to fight for Spain.

It was such confusing during the independence war, that the song used as National Anthem that night of February 27, 1844 went like this: "Españoles a las armas..." It was not until 1883, that the remaining "Trinity Members" adopted the actual National Anthem: "Quisqueyanos valientes..." and it was the one used to put to rest the remains of Duarte when they came from Venezuela in 1884.

So, my friend, Quisqueya is not a problem. She is a solution. Let's give the name now and let our future generations continue building from there.
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#9 - Posted 17 May 2009, 6:45 PM
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Hi Guizmo, this is not a change. I have no idea how old are you and how much you care about issues in Dominican Republic, but just by taking a look to this issue, I believe you care enough for the future and wellbeing of that country.

Just by saying "Leave it like that!" You are motivated to learn some more about our present as a Nation.

I don't know much about forums. I have stayed away from many of them because most of them are used for joking purposes. I am entering now in those where I believe I could find interesting points of view. In other words, I like to discuss and talk about ideas, new and old, that may bring changes that are significant to our present and future generations.

Thanks for your comments, I respect your point of view.
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Constitucion I think ' Dominican Republic of Quisqueya' would be a fantastic official name. Unfortunately not sure many will be willing to put energy into such a campaign with so much else going on.
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