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You labeled Amelia as white and thats where i think that the demos numbers are skewed.

I would categorize Amelia as 'india' not white,... white would be Hipolito.

Btw, how do you define triguena?

Amelia is phenotypically "white" but that doesn't mean that she's not mixed somewhere down the line. Juan Luis Guerra is a close relative of hers and it's safe to say that he has a noticeable african strain.

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Due to the recent & past posts from 'new members' I can't help but be suspicious of Tacobell.
I will give the benefit of the doubt but will closely watch any troll-like behaviour. His whole 'racial' perception is unusual for a Dominican, be he a native or diasporan.

I wouldn't include the Haitian immigrants as part of the ethnic breakdown, only Dominicans.
It's like that genetic study that got skewed when they mistakenly included foreigners (Haitians, other West Indians & even one Cape Verdean).

70%, or so, of the population is definitely not just mulatto. It's a common mistake to label it this way. There are waaay too many Dominicans who are mixed beyond just white and black which is why using the term "mulatto", to describe all those that are mixed race, is wrong. This goes for the thread starter, ofcourse.

My bad, I thought you said that Juan Luis Guerra has no visible african strain.


Thomas Jefferson raped a slave and that kid was still treated like a slave, then that slave had a kid with a white person and the kid was treated like a slave as well, then that kid married a white person and had a kid who was about 12.5% black and 87.5% white, and guess what? He was still treated like a slave even though he looked almost completely white. I'm a real mulatto, I have my loose nappy hair and brown skin but my facial features are white, black people wouldn't think twice about calling me black. I'm not like one of those Dominicans/Cubans/Boricuas who claim that they have a great great great great grandfather with light skin when people call them black. Do you consider american light skin blacks to be black? No? Well most people do and wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a light skin black person and a Dominican who claims to have a white great great great grandfather. I don't understand why black dominicans would want to rep rape blood so bad, why would you be proud that some perverted white conquistador raped your great great great grandmother?
This is what real mulattos look like:




This is not a mulatto:


Whenever I go to DR, alot of Dominicans look just as black as Haitians, I can't even tell the difference most of the time.

This of course is subjective, but these are the basics most commonly accepted descriptors:

Indio:
a) Can mean a skin tone/color that's not black or white. People can add further details by adding indio, dark indio, light indio, etc. .
b) Can also be a phenotype for someone who is not 'white' or 'black'.
c) Can also describe a specific phenotype of someone with black straight hair and straigh features but is not white. In other words someone who looks like an East Indian (un 'hindu') or having Native Amerindian features.
So one can say that the 'indio' category includes mulattos/mestizo/zambos/tri-racials. A good comparison would be the way Braziliana use 'Pardo', it is very similar to the way Dominicans use indio.

Blanco:
a) Can mean someone of European or perdominately European ancestry (in other words, upon looking at him you can't see any 'non-white' features). Please note that this doesn't mean that they'll look like a Viking or have lily white skin, majority of our 'white' ancestry comes from Spain not Sweden.
b) Specifically a skin color, someone can say 'el mas blanquito' for someone who is relatively lighter than others around him. For example, an Albino or Jabao can have lighter skin than someone wholly European, but that doesn't make him 'white' in the same way.

Negro:
a) Someone who looks of pure or predominately pure stereotypical 'Sub-Saharan African' ancestry.
b) A skin color, in DR you can actually find someone with straight features, "European hair' but black skin color. For a good comparison, he'll look like one of tjhose very dark South Asians, similar to a Tamil.

Now in addition to these, which are not exact 'racial' terms, you have Trigueno (wheatish) a term used in many different parts of the world like India & the Middle East, Moreno (literally Moorish) which has a very broad meaning. You can be of European ancestry and be called moreno, African Americans are frequently called 'Los Morenos' here in the USA. And of course local descriptors with specific meanings in DR, un negro fino, un negro aspero, un indio the pelo crespo.

Many of Jefferson's descendants through his slaves have passed on to the "white" race through the years..look it up. Understand this and read it slowly: We do not follow the one drop rule.

That's why the CIA 'Fact Book" uses mixed instead of mulatto. Mulatto is too simplistic, majority are really different levels of tri-racials (Euro/Afro/Indo)

Of the three last guys depicted only one is Dominican..LOL