we have many things in common culturally, and so on. i think if we can be one whole country it will be a great, strong country. we migh be able to rival those damn mexicans as well...

I think El Cibao should separate.

This is the Betamax of ideas........ .........It was a good one 200 years ago without Venezuela

I figured as long as we're shouting out delusional ideas for countries...

Toro I meant the original idea of Spanish Antilles plus Venezuela For sure Cibao would secede

Was there ever this type of idea floating around, something akin to "Gran Colombia"? I know there was the idea of "Spanish Haiti" joining Gran Colombia prior to the Haitian invasion.

As to the feasibility of Cibao seceding, at least the fierce fervor exists. And why not, it's economically the better of the nation and culturally unified.

Great idea - people of Cuba, Venez are so glad they do not live in Guatemala.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8254841.stm
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Most Cubans and Venezuelans are not happy they live in Cuba and Venezuela

The giant rat of Santo Domingo has spoken after extensive surveys. His nest is the eextinct volcano of capitlalism
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8210000/8210394.stm
Pity he doesn't know how to fix TV's
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Off the wall suggestion delgadoMASS, but at least should draw some interesting responses.

Pan-Antillean political ideas existed in the 1800s in the first generations of patriots and thinkers from the three islands.However as each islands separate political and economic fate unfolded differently these dreams lost a material basis and went away.

Well at this point simply listing the form of state of the four nations mentioned delgadoMASS mentioned (a kleptocratic democracy, a totalitarian socialism, an authoritarian democracy, and a colonial commonwealth) demonstrates starkly the tremendous political gap that would have to be overcome for these peoples to become one nation.

The best we could hope for is some sort of informal cultural commonwealth. I doubt there is any way to make this a formal thing without creating what Rizzo might label a 'ministry of paid vacations' . So if here is interest in these nations in a common identity it would have to emerge organically and informally via the work of each people's writers, historians, pundits and intellectuals. Luckily I would say to some degree this does go on. I personally would welcome more pan-Antillean sentiment and scholarship, though I don't believe political unions will come about in our lifetimes.