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#1 - Posted 30 September 2009, 9:46 AM
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Rape and Strangulation of 86 year old in La Vega province
This is a new low for the criminal element in DR. The images are disturbing and I apologize to the non-Spanish speakers:

Edited on 9/30/2009 9:47 AM by cibaeño75.
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Who the F would even think of doing such a crime? Sick just sick
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What will many of us will say? leave that animal who commited this atrocity to me. Una soga y un Cabrerita por cada barrio es lo unico que nesecitamos. We heard it in the video if they sell the house where will they go? everywhere you go is the same deliquencies nowdays.

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What will many of us will say? leave that animal who commited this atrocity to me. Una soga y un Cabrerita por cada barrio es lo unico que nesecitamos. We heard it in the video if they sell the house where will they go? everywhere you go is the same deliquencies nowdays.

No doubt la Soga and Cabrerita were a necessary evil



You don't ansewr barbarism with barbarism. People like the "Soga" and those that committed this crime, there's very little difference between them. They both have an utter disregard for human life and suffering. Things like this happen in countries like the US, where Sogas aren't necessary. It's unfortunate but the hands of time cannot be turned back by state sponsored vigllantes. What one can hope for now is justice. Unfortunately, in DR real justice is in short supply.
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vacanos previously said:

What will many of us will say? leave that animal who commited this atrocity to me. Una soga y un Cabrerita por cada barrio es lo unico que nesecitamos. We heard it in the video if they sell the house where will they go? everywhere you go is the same deliquencies nowdays.

No doubt la Soga and Cabrerita were a necessary evil



You don't ansewr barbarism with barbarism. People like the "Soga" and those that committed this crime, there's very little difference between them. They both have an utter disregard for human life and suffering. Things like this happen in countries like the US, where Sogas aren't necessary. It's unfortunate but the hands of time cannot be turned back by state sponsored vigllantes. What one can hope for now is justice. Unfortunately, in DR real justice is in short supply.



I respect and understand your opinion compi but I had wished we are a first world country like the USA. They have the resource and capability to go after crimes and make it comply. Unfortunately our country doesn't have the capability to hire as much police officer, built jail, create program, ECT.

Right now at this moment we are surpassing NYC 70's and 80's crimes stat. Consequently in the 70's and 80's under a tight grip by the government our country used to be very peaceful even in tough barrios like the one where I was raised. Even here in NYC to go after crimes Giuliani in the early 90's went above the law. Was he wrong? Does the end justify the mean when it come to preventing crimes in order for honest law abiding citizen to lives peacefully?
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#6 - Posted 30 September 2009, 1:11 PM
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Quote:
cibaeño75 previously said:

Quote:
vacanos previously said:

What will many of us will say? leave that animal who commited this atrocity to me. Una soga y un Cabrerita por cada barrio es lo unico que nesecitamos. We heard it in the video if they sell the house where will they go? everywhere you go is the same deliquencies nowdays.

No doubt la Soga and Cabrerita were a necessary evil



You don't ansewr barbarism with barbarism. People like the "Soga" and those that committed this crime, there's very little difference between them. They both have an utter disregard for human life and suffering. Things like this happen in countries like the US, where Sogas aren't necessary. It's unfortunate but the hands of time cannot be turned back by state sponsored vigllantes. What one can hope for now is justice. Unfortunately, in DR real justice is in short supply.



I respect and understand your opinion compi but I had wished we are a first world country like the USA. They have the resource and capability to go after crimes and make it comply. Unfortunately our country doesn't have the capability to hire as much police officer, built jail, create program, ECT.

Right now at this moment we are surpassing NYC 70's and 80's crimes stat. Consequently in the 70's and 80's under a tight grip by the government our country used to be very peaceful even in tough barrios like the one where I was raised. Even here in NYC to go after crimes Giuliani in the early 90's went above the law. Was he wrong? Does the end justify the mean when it come to preventing crimes in order for honest law abiding citizen to lives peacefully?




First of all, NYPD has some 35,000 officers for a city of some 8,000,000 residents. The Dominican military, of which the Dominican police are a part of, has some 44,000 active members for a population that's somewhere over 9,000,000. In other words, DR has a potential police presence, if you can get the other armed forces to drop their silly pretentions to being a real military, comparable to that of New York in terms of per population, New York being the safest largest city in the US. The man power and resources needed for proper law enforcement are there but the will to use them effectively is not. Secondly, the crime statistics in DR for the 70s and 80s were undoubtably helped by the MASSIVE immigration that Dominicans were experiencing in the era you alluded to. No such safety valve exists today. Had all those Dominicans not left in yesteryear we'd be singing a different tune regarding DR in the 70s and 80s. Thirdly, Guiliani is not the sole person responsible for the precipitous drops in crime during the 90s though he was very astute at claiming most of the credit. Commisioner Bratton and several initiatives started under the Dinkins administration were more responsible for what transpired in the 90s here in New York than whatever Guiliani did.
Edited on 9/30/2009 2:31 PM by cibaeño75.
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Quote:
cibaeño75 previously said:

Quote:
vacanos previously said:

What will many of us will say? leave that animal who commited this atrocity to me. Una soga y un Cabrerita por cada barrio es lo unico que nesecitamos. We heard it in the video if they sell the house where will they go? everywhere you go is the same deliquencies nowdays.

No doubt la Soga and Cabrerita were a necessary evil



You don't ansewr barbarism with barbarism. People like the "Soga" and those that committed this crime, there's very little difference between them. They both have an utter disregard for human life and suffering. Things like this happen in countries like the US, where Sogas aren't necessary. It's unfortunate but the hands of time cannot be turned back by state sponsored vigllantes. What one can hope for now is justice. Unfortunately, in DR real justice is in short supply.



I respect and understand your opinion compi but I had wished we are a first world country like the USA. They have the resource and capability to go after crimes and make it comply. Unfortunately our country doesn't have the capability to hire as much police officer, built jail, create program, ECT.

Right now at this moment we are surpassing NYC 70's and 80's crimes stat. Consequently in the 70's and 80's under a tight grip by the government our country used to be very peaceful even in tough barrios like the one where I was raised. Even here in NYC to go after crimes Giuliani in the early 90's went above the law. Was he wrong? Does the end justify the mean when it come to preventing crimes in order for honest law abiding citizen to lives peacefully?




First of all, NYPD has some 35,000 officers for a city of some 8,000,000 residents. The Dominican military, of which the Dominican police are a part of, has some 44,000 active members for a population that's somewhere over 9,000,000. In other words, DR has a potential police presence, if you can get the other armed forces to drop their silly pretentions to being a real military, comparable to that of New York in terms of per population, New York being the safest largest city in the US. The man power and resources needed for proper law enforcement are there but the will to use them effectively is not. Secondly, the crime statistics in DR for the 70s and 80s were undoubtably helped by the MASSIVE immigration that Dominicans were experiencing in the era you alluded to. No such safety valve exists today. Had all those Dominicans not left in yesteryear we'd be singing a different tune regarding DR in the 70s and 80s. Thirdly, Guiliani is not the sole person responsible for the precipitous drops in crime during the 90s though he was very astute at claiming most of the credit. Commisioner Bratton and several initiatives started under the Dinkins administration were more responsible for what transpired in the 90s here in New York than whatever Guiliani did.


The response my father, a NYPD officer during the height of the crack boom at the 30th in Harlem near st. nick, had to this claim was always "I didn't seem old Guli on a corner with his night stick". Cops were a big fan of the guy...
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Thirdly, Guiliani is not the sole person responsible for the precipitous drops in crime during the 90s though he was very astute at claiming most of the credit. Commisioner Bratton and several initiatives started under the Dinkins administration were more responsible for what transpired in the 90s here in New York than whatever Guiliani

spoken like one who really understands the history of the Giuliani era. hey, remember Bernie Kerik?
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Cibaeno offers this remark

Thirdly, Guiliani is not the sole person responsible for the precipitous drops in crime during the 90s though he was very astute at claiming most of the credit. Commisioner Bratton and several initiatives started under the Dinkins administration were more responsible for what transpired in the 90s here in New York than whatever Guiliani

spoken like one who really understands the history of the Giuliani era. hey, remember Bernie Kerik?



Who can forget? Mr. Kerik was a cause celebre for a while in our dailies here in the city for all the wrong reasons.
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#10 - Posted 30 September 2009, 3:03 PM
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ElTorodeCibao previously said:

Quote:
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Quote:
vacanos previously said:

Quote:
cibaeño75 previously said:

Quote:
vacanos previously said:

What will many of us will say? leave that animal who commited this atrocity to me. Una soga y un Cabrerita por cada barrio es lo unico que nesecitamos. We heard it in the video if they sell the house where will they go? everywhere you go is the same deliquencies nowdays.

No doubt la Soga and Cabrerita were a necessary evil



You don't ansewr barbarism with barbarism. People like the "Soga" and those that committed this crime, there's very little difference between them. They both have an utter disregard for human life and suffering. Things like this happen in countries like the US, where Sogas aren't necessary. It's unfortunate but the hands of time cannot be turned back by state sponsored vigllantes. What one can hope for now is justice. Unfortunately, in DR real justice is in short supply.



I respect and understand your opinion compi but I had wished we are a first world country like the USA. They have the resource and capability to go after crimes and make it comply. Unfortunately our country doesn't have the capability to hire as much police officer, built jail, create program, ECT.

Right now at this moment we are surpassing NYC 70's and 80's crimes stat. Consequently in the 70's and 80's under a tight grip by the government our country used to be very peaceful even in tough barrios like the one where I was raised. Even here in NYC to go after crimes Giuliani in the early 90's went above the law. Was he wrong? Does the end justify the mean when it come to preventing crimes in order for honest law abiding citizen to lives peacefully?




First of all, NYPD has some 35,000 officers for a city of some 8,000,000 residents. The Dominican military, of which the Dominican police are a part of, has some 44,000 active members for a population that's somewhere over 9,000,000. In other words, DR has a potential police presence, if you can get the other armed forces to drop their silly pretentions to being a real military, comparable to that of New York in terms of per population, New York being the safest largest city in the US. The man power and resources needed for proper law enforcement are there but the will to use them effectively is not. Secondly, the crime statistics in DR for the 70s and 80s were undoubtably helped by the MASSIVE immigration that Dominicans were experiencing in the era you alluded to. No such safety valve exists today. Had all those Dominicans not left in yesteryear we'd be singing a different tune regarding DR in the 70s and 80s. Thirdly, Guiliani is not the sole person responsible for the precipitous drops in crime during the 90s though he was very astute at claiming most of the credit. Commisioner Bratton and several initiatives started under the Dinkins administration were more responsible for what transpired in the 90s here in New York than whatever Guiliani did.


The response my father, a NYPD officer during the height of the crack boom at the 30th in Harlem near st. nick, had to this claim was always "I didn't seem old Guli on a corner with his night stick". Cops were a big fan of the guy...


That's because he always had their back even when they were dead wrong. Remember Patrick Dorismond? Google City Hall's initial responses to this shooting to get an idea of who was in office back then.
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