In order for a culture to maintain itself for more than 25 years, required fertility rate:

2.11 children per family
1.9 never reversed
1.3 Impossible to reverse (80 to 100 years to correct itself)
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France 1.8...... Muslim immigration 8.1
England 1.6....Muslim immigration Increase from 82,000 to 2.5 million
Greece 1.3
Germany 1.3....Muslim state by 2050
Italy 1.2
Spain 1.1
Canada 1.6
America 1.6 (thankyou abortionists)
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European Union 31 countries
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Muammar al-Gaddafi - "There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. We don't need terrorists, we don't need homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims [in Europe] will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."

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Worth watching.

The Christian west is doomed - but Asia - China and Korea, and places like Africa have a very strong and growing church.

The DR - few Muslims - so far.

Spain has a bottomless well of immigrants from Latin America who are Christian/Catholic and Spanish speaking with similar traditions Spain will not fall to the Moor .... .........Viva Franco Viva Espana

That may also save the USA - which has the Latin immigration happening.

William - you worry too much - by the time of the second or third generation the decedents of immigrants will be like many of the brits and french and not believe in a fictitious god.
Sweden, Vietnam, France lead the way. The proportion of non believers has of course been increasing over the yeas. Intelligent people unlike Americans do not need the opium any more.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
Another stupid CW post - anyway Pirate Preach Man only believes in greed and in fleecing his congregation.
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DR has Few Muslims... BUT LOST OF HAITIANS... Which is worse? You know what my answer is?

The number of atheists has always been around 5% more or less. They will never gain ground because "The fool has said in his heart NO GOD!" and most people are smart enough to know that random chances can never produce this complex world or your own body. It is called Intelligent Design, and only proud stubborn fools (ABC) cannot see it!

You think a belief in God is incredulous? And that coming from you? You believe that an explosion in a metal scrap yard can produce a Mazerati with GPS.

The rest of us know there was and is a Designer!

In the long run, the Islamists would demand Shiara Law and change this country forever.

AdummyBC, you have said that by now about 1000 times, maybe time to give it a rest and come up with an original. For the RECORD, I do not accept any payment for my work as a pastor.

As for greed, amigo, you ooze greed out of all your smelly pores! You are poor enought to be jealous of anyone with more money than you! Sad really.

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William - you worry too much - by the time of the second or third generation the decedents of immigrants will be like many of the brits and french and not believe in a fictitious god.
Sweden, Vietnam, France lead the way. The proportion of non believers has of course been increasing over the yeas. Intelligent people unlike Americans do not need the opium any more.
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html
Another stupid CW post - anyway Pirate Preach Man only believes in greed and in fleecing his congregation.
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The number of atheists has always been around 5% more or less. They will never gain ground because "The fool has said in his heart NO GOD!" and most people are smart enough to know that random chances can never produce this complex world or your own body. It is called Intelligent Design, and only proud stubborn fools (ABC) cannot see it!

You think a belief in God is incredulous? And that coming from you? You believe that an explosion in a metal scrap yard can produce a Mazerati with GPS.

The rest of us know there was and is a Designer!
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Surveyrs repeat that the percentages are much higher of people who do not believe in god. See numerous surveys.
Yes I can belive you lived for so many years as a Pastor in Canada for zero dollars.
http://www.vexen.co.uk/UK/religion.html
It is of course possible be a christian without belief in god see the book 'honest to god'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honest_to_God
So your comments are stupid. Decline in religion is a fact - it will affect those of Islamic persuation also - having met many young people from Islamic families ti is clear their faith is different and not as strong if it exists. Of course many people tend to agnosticism not atheism
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agnostic [Gr. agnostos, unknown, unknowable, (a priv. + gignosko, know.] One who holds that the ultimate cause (God) and the essential nature of things are unknown or unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
'http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/dictionaries.htm
Of course there are also SUV worshipers .......
http://greenfertility.blogspot.com/2008/12/upsides-of-economic-downturn-monday.html
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