| #61 - Posted 8 October 2009, 1:08 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1056 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: MIRABUENO previously said: Quote: USADR previously said: For Dominicans who either live in DR or travel their often, I got this question asked on another forum : -How common is dating between Dominicans and Haitians? -How common is marriage between Dominicans and Haitians? -How common are mixed Dominican/Haitians in DR? -How common are Haitians becoming citizens? -Are Haitians becoming absorbed into the Dominican mainstream society, or is it more similar to the Bahamas in which they make up a distinct ethnic minority? i would't say that thier are no dominican haitian couples it's just that it isn't as common as one would think. any that exist would be more in the border regions of our country. Well, Often when inter marriage happens between a Haitian and Dominican it is not broadcast due to of course the known stigmatized resentments and stereotypes but given that I have lived in DR growing up I have seem it all the time. Or keep in mind that there is always a sense such couple often having to want to relocate to new "barrios o ciudades" soon after they marry so their such harmony would not be scrutinized. By the way, in intermarrying in DR there are much to consider culturally fused with traditionally class dynamics often play a major role. in the elite upper class level, intermarriages between Haitians and Dominicans happens everyday. Especially those Haitian tourists men/women (Diasporas) from the USA whom may have once visited DR and have found themselves wives or husbands. To not also forget that often we have several of those couple who at times are well off and moved back to Haiti while owning properties in DR. Often, Dominican women would later find out of their spouse's ancestral background to have been of Haitian heritage due to mislead pretexts of appearance that some Dominicans often assume if one is light skinned therefore he or she may not be Haitian. For example: As a Dominican-Haitian couple, If we are newlyweds new to a neighborhood and are culturally fluent constant Spanish speakers in our household... Who is going to assume that we are Dominican-Haitian intermarrying couple? I would agree with you afro on this one, USADR your argument is full of hole and rather preposterous and serve to stir up controversies when there are none, your ignorance bliss throughout and your subliminal message well understood. 2 countries that share a common border one have been inter-mingling wronlgy or rightly in the other one affair over 200 years, you are saying relation, marriage or concubinage is rare, please provide us with the statistics, I will gladly recant I will venture to say the inter relation it's probably much higher, if we factor in the border town, if you were to google "border countries" you will see a high inter-relation among the population of the border town unless DR and H are exempted. I personally meet these folks during my stay in Montreal Attn: antonioj Before I reply to you, I will give you a chance to please read the post you quoted very carefully and distinguish what I posted and from what others replies. I made no argument, it was a series of questions so read carefully, my fingers are on the trigger so before I post I am giving you a chance because it doesn't seem you're answering the right person. Edited on 10/8/2009 1:35 PM by USADR. |
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| #62 - Posted 8 October 2009, 1:38 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2673 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens Quote: USADR previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: MIRABUENO previously said: Quote: USADR previously said: For Dominicans who either live in DR or travel their often, I got this question asked on another forum : -How common is dating between Dominicans and Haitians? -How common is marriage between Dominicans and Haitians? -How common are mixed Dominican/Haitians in DR? -How common are Haitians becoming citizens? -Are Haitians becoming absorbed into the Dominican mainstream society, or is it more similar to the Bahamas in which they make up a distinct ethnic minority? i would't say that thier are no dominican haitian couples it's just that it isn't as common as one would think. any that exist would be more in the border regions of our country. Well, Often when inter marriage happens between a Haitian and Dominican it is not broadcast due to of course the known stigmatized resentments and stereotypes but given that I have lived in DR growing up I have seem it all the time. Or keep in mind that there is always a sense such couple often having to want to relocate to new "barrios o ciudades" soon after they marry so their such harmony would not be scrutinized. By the way, in intermarrying in DR there are much to consider culturally fused with traditionally class dynamics often play a major role. in the elite upper class level, intermarriages between Haitians and Dominicans happens everyday. Especially those Haitian tourists men/women (Diasporas) from the USA whom may have once visited DR and have found themselves wives or husbands. To not also forget that often we have several of those couple who at times are well off and moved back to Haiti while owning properties in DR. Often, Dominican women would later find out of their spouse's ancestral background to have been of Haitian heritage due to mislead pretexts of appearance that some Dominicans often assume if one is light skinned therefore he or she may not be Haitian. For example: As a Dominican-Haitian couple, If we are newlyweds new to a neighborhood and are culturally fluent constant Spanish speakers in our household... Who is going to assume that we are Dominican-Haitian intermarrying couple? I would agree with you afro on this one, USADR your argument is full of hole and rather preposterous and serve to stir up controversies when there are none, your ignorance bliss throughout and your subliminal message well understood. 2 countries that share a common border one have been inter-mingling wronlgy or rightly in the other one affair over 200 years, you are saying relation, marriage or concubinage is rare, please provide us with the statistics, I will gladly recant I will venture to say the inter relation it's probably much higher, if we factor in the border town, if you were to google "border countries" you will see a high inter-relation among the population of the border town unless DR and H are exempted. I personally meet these folks during my stay in Montreal Attn: antonioj Before I reply to you, I will give you a chance to please read the post you quoted very carefully and distinguish what I posted and from what others replies. I made no argument, it was a series of questions so read carefully, my fingers are on the trigger so before I post I am giving you a chance because it doesn't seem you're answering the right person. Do not get trigger happy yet, I have to admit I did not read the whole thread. let me start over ,,, We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #63 - Posted 8 October 2009, 1:39 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1056 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens And my personal opinion on the matter, being a Dominican that DOES come from San Juan and realtives from Las Matas all the way to Elias Pina and Banica is that I never saw a marriage or a Dominican/Haitian couple. The only thing I saw on rare occasion is a Dominican male impregnate a Haitian female on the side and there was a stigma attached to to it. That's the complete un-pc truth and the Haitians on this forum who travel to DR cannot deny this. AfroLatino is posting with his feelings. |
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| #64 - Posted 8 October 2009, 2:10 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2673 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens Quote: USADR previously said: And my personal opinion on the matter, being a Dominican that DOES come from San Juan and realtives from Las Matas all the way to Elias Pina and Banica is that I never saw a marriage or a Dominican/Haitian couple. The only thing I saw on rare occasion is a Dominican male impregnate a Haitian female on the side and there was a stigma attached to to it. That's the complete un-pc truth and the Haitians on this forum who travel to DR cannot deny this. AfroLatino is posting with his feelings. I take it back usadr I read from the very beginning you were pointing at a previous posting from an haitian poster at a different forum, I guess they are just opinions after all. No conclusive research was done. Edited on 10/8/2009 2:11 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #65 - Posted 8 October 2009, 2:12 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1056 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: USADR previously said: And my personal opinion on the matter, being a Dominican that DOES come from San Juan and realtives from Las Matas all the way to Elias Pina and Banica is that I never saw a marriage or a Dominican/Haitian couple. The only thing I saw on rare occasion is a Dominican male impregnate a Haitian female on the side and there was a stigma attached to to it. That's the complete un-pc truth and the Haitians on this forum who travel to DR cannot deny this. AfroLatino is posting with his feelings. I take it back usadr I read from the very beginning you were pointing at a previous posting from an haitian poster at a different forum, I guess they are just opinions after all. No conclusive research was done. No problem. |
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| #66 - Posted 8 October 2009, 3:48 PM | |
Location: United States, San Diego, CA - (Dei sitio) Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2589 Posts: 368 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens Quote: TuPapaupa previously said: Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: No, your "job" is to not make it difficult for others when you are quoting someone.....deleting the name of the person you quoted is unnecessary, ESPECIALLY when quoting TWO posts from 2 different posters.......Quote: TuPapaupa previously said: Well, KIDDO, for a guy that sounds smart, you suuuuuuure write alot of nonsense. It doesn't matter if you separate posts by changing colors, when you delete the writer's name, unless people here are magicians, they can't tell who wrote what. I don't think I was telling you to "do all the job for posters in helping them keep up", but, for the love of God, don't, you don't have to make it harder.. Precisely (lol). My job is to allow people to see which contents I am responding to and the actual posters can remain anonymous since it is the content we are debating not directly the poster him or herself. That is our problems, we often want to know the posters so we could engaged on direct personal ranting attacks of disagreement. This is not a scholarly paper where I have to give credit to actual posters, but if I do post or reply directly to their quote I do, but if I do not, it is not as if I am writing my response considering TuPapaupa migh want to know my sources (lol ha hah). I will try to post you name next to you quotes "Oh great one: (lol)! Over a year ago, in one of our many battles I told you that talking to you was like talking to a wall..... A year later, although not in battle, I feel the same way (at least on this topic). That said, enjoy "your" thread because I am DONE replying to you about this subject. ABULLLLLLL!. It's hard to follow this guy: Afro or TanBellaMami, whatever his name is. Do you know the word cantinflear in spanish, this is what you do when you post a comment. Dude, keep it simple and direct to the point, I am an Engineer and think like one, believe me I cannot follow your comments. "La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée" - Charles de Talleyrand-Périgord |
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| #67 - Posted 6 January 2010, 8:25 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3725 Posts: 1039 | RE: Question to Dominicans about Haitians becoming Dominican citizens Let's bring back dead topics (lol)! |
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