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#21 - Posted 3 November 2009, 7:02 PM
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Looks like the article woke up the troll activity and they are marching on now.
Afro got deleted with his same old fuzzy thinking...........WE DOMINICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND
OUR COUNTRY, AND A DUTY. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BUSTER, THAT IS TOUGH!

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#22 - Posted 3 November 2009, 7:22 PM
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Looks like the article woke up the troll activity and they are marching on now.
Afro got deleted with his same old fuzzy thinking...........WE DOMINICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND
OUR COUNTRY, AND A DUTY. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BUSTER, THAT IS TOUGH!


Huchi Lora almost 2 years ago said that 2009 is starting to look like 1963 where the Dominican population was getting to a boiling point that didn't end in nothing good as we know because it made us less stable but it did send a very good message that Dominican at one point or another do wake up. I don't know if you been to the site. www.ahiequeprende.com and there are many others that show that the Dominican youth is waking up and getting active. Also this is another site that we all should be getting involve more with too. www.lalucha.com.do
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Looks like the article woke up the troll activity and they are marching on now.
Afro got deleted with his same old fuzzy thinking...........WE DOMINICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND
OUR COUNTRY, AND A DUTY. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BUSTER, THAT IS TOUGH
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Exactly.
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Feed me i'm Haitian

wow, a ti si te gusta gineo

no no tu no sabe lo k el dice. el enemigo de lo guineos es el!!!!!!!

Excepto que los guineos son verdes para ser enemigo.
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Looks like the article woke up the troll activity and they are marching on now.
Afro got deleted with his same old fuzzy thinking...........WE DOMINICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND
OUR COUNTRY, AND A DUTY. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BUSTER, THAT IS TOUGH!


Huchi Lora almost 2 years ago said that 2009 is starting to look like 1963 where the Dominican population was getting to a boiling point that didn't end in nothing good as we know because it made us less stable but it did send a very good message that Dominican at one point or another do wake up. I don't know if you been to the site. www.ahiequeprende.com and there are many others that show that the Dominican youth is waking up and getting active. Also this is another site that we all should be getting involve more with too. www.lalucha.com.do


Thank you for the URL's, I like them both. The DR has to be the only country in the world that convokes their legislators to improve the constitution, and instead of gaining more citizens rights, we lose them.
The political mafia's are like the gangsters of the 1920's and 30's in Chicago, and the country's future is decided by previous agreements of just two men.
All these ruffians and no good bums, sucking on the tit of the state have to be taught a hard lesson, like in 1965 when the Dominicans rose up, against being mocked and ridiculed publicly by their rulers and all said in unison " We are mad as hell, and can't take it anymore".

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Haitian band of cattle rustlers ambushed and killed with a chest shot in an ambush at 8PM last friday night, Dominican Air Force sergeant Cornelio Guzmán riding his motorcycle going to work as commander of the Dajabón, CESFRONT post.
The band composed of five Haitians (two who spoke Spanish and appeared to be Dominicans) where armed with pistols and revolvers, according to eyewitnesses.
The career soldier had a history of rescueing many stolen cattle from Haitian cattle thieves and just the week before had a gun battle that scared away a band of persistent cattle rustlers.
(Gross photo of dead sergeant was removed).

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How come nobody makes a big deal of this murder? Because a Dominican was murdered this time?
Where are the protests of the international organizations, demanding justice?
A poor honest Dominican military life has not the same value as a Haitian?


2:15 PM -
DON MIGUEL, Dajabón.- Presuntos cuatreros mataron de un balazo en el pecho al sargento mayor de la Fuerza Aérea Dominicana, Cornelio Guzmán Ureña de 32 años, adscrito al Cuerpo Especializado de Seguridad Fronteriza (CESFRONT) la noche de este viernes. Los delincuentes también ataron y amordazaron a los jóvenes Juan Carlos Cordero de 22 años y Yajaira Jiménez de 19, quienes fueron despojados de una motocicleta cuando cruzaban por el lugar, el motor en que andaba el sargento y su arma de reglamento también fueron robados.

El sargento mayor de la fuerza aérea resultó muerto en una emboscada que les tendieron sus atacantes, cuando se dirigía al puesto militar de la comunidad, Don Miguel del cual era comandante.

El hecho ocurrió aproximadamente a las ocho de la noche, cuando transitaba hacia las proximidades del puente, sobre el río Masacre en Don Miguel.

Los asaltados que fueron rescatados con vida, dijeron a los militares, que el grupo estaba integrado por cinco hombres, tres haitianos y dos dominicanos y que estaban armados de pistolas y revólveres.

El cadáver del militar fue llevado a la morgue del hospital Matías Ramón Mella de Dajabón, de donde fue enviado a patología forense para practicarle una necroscopia.

La victima residía en el barrio militar de Dajabón, con la también miembro del ejército, Rosanna Rosalía, con quien había procreado dos hijos.

El sargento muerto estaba sindicado como el principal represor de los robos de ganados en la zona, el pasado fin de semana había rebatado a tiros cinco reses robadas a los cuatreros en el sector donde fue muerto.






When everything is set and done and if we ended up being absolve thru fusion with the country of Haiti there is no doubt that Leonel Fernandez inadvertently will be held as an martyr in the new republic. Some people did not vote for Peña Gomez because they believed he was going to sell us all out to Haiti. Oh they were wrong or what? Our Manchurian candidate was no other than Leonel himself and his international leftist peaceful coalition.


It is no freaking coincidence that Balaguer get leveled and trashed called racist by our now powerful leftist traitor coalition like Junot Diaz, the Evil Jesuit, Raquel Cepeda, ECT and the pro-Haitian that are not in the public arena like some here in the site. For these people individualism replace all matter. Patria or country is just a big chunk of earth to all them. To us nationalist is way more than that. Is where I used to go to the campo ride in the burro to the mountain bring a big sack of mango and in the process watch with awe the coffee plantations, orange plantation then go bathe in the deep CHALCO and see with my own eye the beautiful MANANTIAL of water.


Like some other poster said we haven’t heard Leonel stand on the issue. I will go as far as to say we will never see his stance coming from his own mouth. For one I know his motive he doesn’t want to alienate anybody that might brand him racist. He knows how to play our populace so sadly he is backstabbing the weaker one. I can’t stand the politic of my country yet I recognize that the only one holding press conference every now and then on the danger we are facing with our Haitian problem no surprise here are the few leftover of the old PRSC party not the one who sold themselves to the other party. I always see Jacinto Pelnado and his sons talking all the time about the needs for our country to control the illegal Haitians to no avail just ignorance from the people in power.


“The career soldier had a history of rescuing many stolen cattle from Haitian cattle thieves and just the week before had a gun battle that scared away a band of persistent cattle rustlers.”

For some months, I have traveled and traversed the frontier in every sense of the word. I have seen, investigated, and inquired about the needs of the population. To the Dominicans who were complaining of the depredations by Haitians living among them, thefts of cattle, provisions, fruits, etc., and were thus prevented from enjoying in peace the products of their labor, I have responded, ‘I will fix this.’ And we have already begun to remedy the situation. Three hundred Haitians are now dead in Bánica. This remedy will continue.” (Richard Lee Turtis, “A World Destroyed, A Nation Imposed: The 1937 Haitian Massacre in the Dominican Republic,” Hispanic American Historical Review 82, no. 3 (2002): 613.)


SEREMOS RECONOCIDOS LOS TRINITARIOS CON LAS PALABRAS SACRAMENTALES: "DIOS" "PATRIA" Y "LIBERTAD". ASI LO PROMETO ANTES DIOS Y EL MUNDO: SI LO HAGO, DIOS ME PROTEJAS, Y DE NO, ME LO TOME EN CUENTA, Y MIS CONSOCIOS ME CASTIGUEN EL PERJURIO Y LA TRAICION, SI LOS VENDO.
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#27 - Posted 5 November 2009, 7:45 AM
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Jueves 5 de Noviembre del 2009, actualizado 2:54 AM


ENTREVISTA AL SECRETARIO GENERAL DE LA OEA
Insulza: “La migración haitiana es una carga para RD”
Adolfo Valenzuela - 11/5/2009

JOSÉ M. INSULZA PLANTEÓ LA NECESIDAD DE UNA MAYOR AYUDA DE LA COMUNIDAD INTERNACIONAL

El secretario general de la OEA, José Miguel Insulza, durante la entrevista en la Cancillería, ayer.
Santo Domingo.- El secretario general de la OEA, José Miguel Insulza, consideró ayer que el problema de las migraciones haitianas es una pesada carga para República Dominicana y, en consecuencia, se requiere el apoyo de la comunidad internacional.

Invitado para participar en la II Reunión de Ministros de Seguridad de Las Américas, Insulza dijo que “si bien el nivel de desarrollo de República Dominicana es muy superior al de Haití, sigue siendo un país del mundo en desarrollo, con sus necesidades y problemas en educación, salud”, entre otros.

En una entrevista exclusiva para LISTÍN DIARIO, Insulza consideró que si para un país desarrollado recibir ese número (entre 700 mil y un millón de inmigrantes) es ya un problema, “es una carga (para RD) que de alguna manera el conjunto de la comunidad internacional debe ayudar a sostener”.

Expresó que la ayuda ha funcionado, pero poco, “por lo que debería haber un apoyo mayor a la compresión de que algunos de los problemas de la población haitiana se solucionan en República Dominicana, o de una parte de la población haitiana”.

Avances
Cuestionado en torno a si la vecina Haití ha avanzado desde la salida del poder de Aristide, Insulza respondió que han habido avances, pero insuficientes.

“Haití ha tenido una estabilidad política en el sentido amplio de la palabra, no solamente de Estado, sino de maduración política”, dijo, para destacar el rol de la red de seguridad de la Minustah, la cual “ha asegurado la persistencia del orden social durante todos estos años”.

Enumeró parte de los temas que todavía debe mejorar, como el de la justicia, las cárceles, el sistema electoral, la creación de un consejo permanente electoral y la implementación de algunos proyectos de desarrollo.

Insulza dijo en que la policía haitiana “no está todavía en el punto óptimo en cuando al número de agentes”, y cuestionó si la estructura levantada hasta ahora resistirá el retiro de la red de seguridad. “Eso tiene que ser paulatino... y hay que trabajar para que el programa de desarrollo institucional asegure la persistencia de las instituciones de la democracia”, citó.

Primera ministro
Sobre los últimos acontecimientos en Puerto Príncipe relacionados con la destitución de la primera ministra Michéle Pierre-Louis, estimó que es una decisión tomada por una institución facultada para ello.

“Tenemos una muy buena evaluación del primer trabajo de la primera ministro, pero a quien le corresponde hacer esa evaluación es al Senado de Haití, y la ha hecho. Así funcionan las democracias en muchas partes del mundo”, explicó.

El presidente haitiano René Préval ha designado a Jean Max Bellerive, quien debe ser ratificado por el Parlamento.

Edited on 11/5/2009 7:46 AM by generoso.

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#28 - Posted 5 November 2009, 10:20 AM
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Looks like the article woke up the troll activity and they are marching on now.
Afro got deleted with his same old fuzzy thinking...........WE DOMINICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND
OUR COUNTRY, AND A DUTY. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT BUSTER, THAT IS TOUGH!



So what is or was my "Same Old" fuzzy thinking?
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#29 - Posted 5 November 2009, 10:37 AM
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It baffles me as I find it also funny the amount of focus put on Haiti and Haitians by Dominican members posting on here who at the same time crying for Haitians to not come to this site. Many Dominicans on here thrive on negative stories to constantly have something to "B!tch" about or to furthermore attempt to demonize Haiti and Haitians. It is not like they would ever look for good news or on matters that other can see are good about or benefiting Haiti and Haitians. No, duh because their stances are not that humanitarian-(istical).

As they often are the same people who already have deemed Haitians as less than humans with their racist views, rants and defaming agendas and campaigns often they are engaged in religiously. Take a good look on this site, you will find that most of the threads getting the most hits and attentions are the threads that are Haitian related topics. Whether it is still the known resentments at work or pure hatred for Haitians being manifested on here, it appears that Haitian related subjects or Dominican-Haitian relations are the lifeblood for this site. Reports of matters which can bring further division are what most readers on here want to always have reasons and motives behind their derogatory hatred stances. Stories on issues of killings, conflicts and other means that are negatively deteriorating the work for better relations between the two estates are what many of you seem to be interested in seeing on here.

Thus in way that many on here may seem oblivious to, this constant vindictive agenda of hate actually is doing exactly, in one way or the other, proving furthermore more basis for the intertwined dynamical reality of the existing relations between the two nations which need great improvements on all fronts as we can never expect them to actually post good news about Haiti because then, that would defeat their divisive goal and agenda they have in mind.

P.S: I know most radical extremists whoa re spewing hatred on here with their deep held resentments do not want to see improvement in terms of or for better relations between the two nations. The divisive dynamic keeps them in business. They only look for negativity anywhere they can find it about Haiti to justify their hatred.



I agree with this post 100%.

you mean you agree with yourself?...!!!


Sorry buddy I didn't write this. I proof read the things I post. There are too many misspellings in this post to have been written by me. So try and pin this on someone else.

not a pinning sir. it was a ?



Well,

About the errors in spelling, I encourage others to make corrections where they see them fro I was simply typing away anf not paying attention to grammatical errors. However, all that matters I wish people comprehended what i was trying to convey. This site deleted my reply to "an already" condescending post that was inciting for rhetorical negativities on so many levels.

For as my response to it was very much so truthful and peaceful as it could get as it was within effort to discourage posters from falling into the traps of Hardcore radical extremism and neo-conservatism of some fundamentalist racists on here using this forum as the platform to spew hatred and divisiveness. Unless this site suppots their actions in some form, why else would they have deleted my post? As I see this site is engaged in direct personal discriminative attacks even when members post valid posts or threads on certain issues that cleaner by for than most posted garbage I have seen on this site that the admins have allowed through.

On some less serious note, this site might as well be in a Cuban, North Korea, Iran or anywhere around the world where systemic rules of Dictatorship, Totalitarian. and Authoritarian funadamentalists reign (lol ha hahh ). It is rather hard to not see the partiality, biased favoritism and the expressed prejudices this site is participating in by banning only members they suspect of showing supports or sympathy for either Haiti, Haitians or those trying to defused the intense hatred that are being expressed on here and are intensifying daily...
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Well,

About the errors in spelling, I encourage others to make corrections where they see them fro I was simply typing away anf not paying attention to grammatical errors. However, all that matters I wish people comprehended what i was trying to convey. This site deleted my reply to "an already" condescending post that was inciting for rhetorical negativities on so many levels.

For as my response to it was very much so truthful and peaceful as it could get as it was within effort to discourage posters from falling into the traps of Hardcore radical extremism and neo-conservatism of some fundamentalist racists on here using this forum as the platform to spew hatred and divisiveness. Unless this site suppots their actions in some form, why else would they have deleted my post? As I see this site is engaged in direct personal discriminative attacks even when members post valid posts or threads on certain issues that cleaner by for than most posted garbage I have seen on this site that the admins have allowed through.

On some less serious note, this site might as well be in a Cuban, North Korea, Iran or anywhere around the world where systemic rules of Dictatorship, Totalitarian. and Authoritarian funadamentalists reign (lol ha hahh ). It is rather hard to not see the partiality, biased favoritism and the expressed prejudices this site is participating in by banning only members they suspect of showing supports or sympathy for either Haiti, Haitians or those trying to defused the intense hatred that are being expressed on here and are intensifying daily...


So your point of views on that folks (lol)!!!
Edited on 11/5/2009 11:01 AM by AfroLatino1.
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