| #91 - Posted 13 November 2009, 8:35 PM | |
Location: Canada, Montreal Join date: June 2009 Member #: 3003 Posts: 645 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution Quote: AfroLatino1 previously said: Quote: Incognito previously said: He's a dictator Actually, No, not necessarily he was not a dictator... Henry Namphy was simply caught in a Para-Junta Military power struggle. (He was always known to be an honest man). NOt to show any kind of direct support for him or anything, but when he was in power the Haitian people were able to eat. He took over after Jean-Claude Duvalier left which was appropriate. Then, he made sure there was an election (not to say it was your ideal election) and Leslie Francois Manigat got elected. Henry Namphy himself overthrown Manigat and regained power which he and this bastard Gen. Prosper Avril went at it into this military warfare in the country which Namphy decided to cede to Prosper Avril. And this is the problem in Haiti. Manigat and Namphy were two people pro-duvalier and he made the coup d'etat. TN1804 |
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| #92 - Posted 13 November 2009, 8:49 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 1983 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution Quote: AfroLatino1 previously said: Quote: Belly previously said: Tránsito. 1. m. Acción de transitar. 2. m. Actividad de personas y vehículos que pasan por una calle, una carretera, etc. 3. m. paso (? sitio por donde se pasa de un lugar a otro). 4. m. En conventos, seminarios y otras casas de comunidad, pasillo o corredor. 5. m. Lugar determinado para hacer alto y descanso en alguna jornada o marcha. 6. m. Paso de un estado o empleo a otro. Transición. (Del lat. transitio, -onis). 1. f. Acción y efecto de pasar de un modo de ser o estar a otro distinto. 2. f. Paso más o menos rápido de una prueba, idea o materia a otra, en discursos o escritos. 3. f. Cambio repentino de tono y expresión. Remember that in DR the official language is Spanish so they won't care about confusion that may occur when the document is translate by others into English. Yeah sure confused huh... Transito o transicion: Whichever one you use, still say relatively or almost the same thing. They both still refer to being at/from one point to the next /other regardless of processes, means or structures in between. Transicion: Un modo a otro destino. Transito: Un lugar a otro Emphasis: Un a otro. You still thinking in English and translating into Spanish in your mind. You are confuse just admit it is nothing wrong with it. "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley "Unus pro totus quod totus pro unus." La Hemanda. |
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| #93 - Posted 13 November 2009, 9:13 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2009 Member #: 3911 Posts: 431 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution Quote: Belly previously said: You still thinking in English and translating into Spanish in your mind. You are confuse just admit it is nothing wrong with it. Anyway, let me know what you think of this right here: Haiti's Initiatives: (Because it is only their not being documented that makes them illegal) In order to prevent "undocumented" Haitians to coming into DR, the Haitian government must do a better job providing proper documentations to all its citizens and create better "Infrastructural Administrative Facilities" around provincial areas of the country through new reform of Decentralization in Haiti. Dominican Republic's Initiatives: For those documented Haitians, indeed through proper Immigration Court Due Process and paid fees, an "en transito" path to citizenship for the Dominican-soil born children of Haitians will ease up the burden on DR greatly. However, such provision might be with certain direct restrictions understandably when it comes to holding higher offices on the land perhaps given a duration capped period of actual proven generational adaptation and full pledged allegiance under Dominican law. Bilaterally: Because presumably by then Haiti's initiatives would "hopefully" have proven to be successful at documented its citizens (keeping our fingers crossed |
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| #94 - Posted 13 November 2009, 9:16 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2009 Member #: 3911 Posts: 431 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution And lastly also this one: MY LONG SHOT IN HELL PLAN: However, please hear me out on this one. Please with all racism, resentments and discriminations aside for a minute. One of the other reason why DR also have such influx of Haitian illegals is because there are no protectorate measures to encourage illegals to come out of the shadow. To rid of all ambiguities and obscurities, establishing some amnesty for illegals to turn themselves in or that they can be given a certain grace period of time to get some kind of Temporary Dominican Discretionary documentation for certain fees and a certain duration which can be renewable each time such document expires. Thus the illegal migratory issues would in effect by then be solved as DR's government would actually have a well legal profitable revenue in terms of having means to sustain those programs by hiring and trained actual Dominicans because this would create jobs as from this received revenue, money could be used to provide better border patrol, security and improvements to be made which also with such revenue money can be used to perhaps develop those border towns where perhaps Haitians would most likely remained. P.S: Those ideas above, knowing the known prejudices, resentments to include the extreme protectionist conservative radicalism it would be far fetched. However, allowing people to apply and pay for some kind of recognized "Limited Legalization" does not mean that this constitutes to guarantee these individuals with citizenships. This would simply mean that you have better control in knowing or tracking who is legal and not legal, where in the country they are or can be found at all times. Edited on 11/13/2009 10:09 PM by AfroLatino1. |
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| #95 - Posted 13 November 2009, 9:20 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2009 Member #: 3911 Posts: 431 | RE: Haiti - A Path To Hope Once Again. SEEKING HOPE THROUGH HAITI INSECURITY IMPASS. By Wilgëens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg. The safety and the security of the Haitian people and their cities is very important. For, Haiti's overall economical and social development depends and rely on a stable secure Nation. Thus in all sense and effect, a better secure Haiti may contribute to the possible stability of the Country in whole politically. Let us not be naive on this issue that the Country's very own politicians are invested in the insecurity challenges of the Country why it is such a complex matter to tackle and cater to in Haiti's case. It is of no surprises that most Haitians know of the greater threats the insecurity issue poses for Haiti's future. As an insecure Haiti only creates fear and distrust among those Haitian residents who will feel that their Government cannot protect them giving leeway to neighboring Nations to make of Haiti the Catalyst Pariah, as well as an insecure Haiti only instills direct and indirectly a sense of neglect for Haiti in the hearts of Haitian diasporas living abroad to include in tourist visitors alike who may in fact could be prospect investors whom in return Haiti could very well benefit from. There are few incentives to invest, either economically or socially, in an unsafe Haiti, thus Haitians and their Government need to step up greatly. Creating safer urban, communal and district neighborhood crime prevention programs is one way to disturb this negative feedback circle that weakens Haiti as to not be naive also to know that crime prevention efforts and the "Haitian Government must not neglect the deeper factors that create crime in the first place—lack of economic opportunities and weak social bonds between residents. " 1. Built what most people consider to be the best rehabilitation institutions known to men which is to built more jails. "If there are more rooms for them to rot in with the already corrupted and damaged Judicial system, they will think twice about committing the crimes." 2. Send out a strong signals to culprits, perpetrators and caught criminals and their accomplices and anyone directly or indirectly implicated that their crime will be severely punished. "Involuntary closed-monitored Military service and while awaiting to be seeing by a judge if any time soon, Free forced labor will be implemented." 3. The launching of a multi-organized crime awareness prevention programs and campaigns in provide incentive awards to discreet informants who report any acts of violence. "Creating a secret underground police force who themselves would be watched by others bigger secret police." Maybe it is about time Haiti should have a President with some kind of social control backbone in the Country... perhaps even as risky to say but hope it would not have to come to that -- rather this time around Haiti needs a kind of a Progressive Dictator to help bring about social order. Edited on 11/13/2009 9:21 PM by AfroLatino1. |
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| #96 - Posted 13 November 2009, 9:27 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2009 Member #: 3911 Posts: 431 | RE: More Of My Plans For Haiti. A GREATER REFORMED HAITI TOWARD SUFFICIENCY. By Wilgëens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg. 1. Militarilization. a). Incentives for military personels (Building bases, Military Residential Zones, Schools etc...). b). Obligatory from 18 - 48. (Civil Civic Duty Reforms). c). Bilateral Joint Border Patrol & Conjuntures with DR (Customs, Migratory & Immigration). 2. Decentralization. a). Build new provincial infrastructures (Administrar, Scholar, Medical etc...). b). Employment opportunities away from main Urban capitals. c). Developemental projects (Agricultural, Education, Roads among other additional social programs ect...) 3. Regionalization. a). Divide the Nation into 3 Governorship - Governortorial Budgetary Systems (North, Central & South). b). Provide citizens with specified Identification Social Numbers per regions. (Emplaced tax laws, Tolling, social benefits etc...). c). Joint governmental & privatization of nation's certain offices. Edited on 11/13/2009 10:20 PM by AfroLatino1. |
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| #97 - Posted 13 November 2009, 10:20 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2009 Member #: 3911 Posts: 431 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution More Better Reforms Such as: _ Judiciary: Build more prisons, employ more law enforcement among other Civil Undercover Authority groups. _ Legislative & Political: Dual nationality, Stricter measures, penalities and repercussions to combat corruption. _ Environmental Preservation & Protection: Tourism, Hotels, Parks and Recreation, forestation ect... Quaterly Project Beautification (Regional competitions & governmental sponsored), Improve & reenforce better diplomatic realtions with DR on many aspects future or already existed ones ect... That is why Recentralization and Regionalization is a must in that plan. It is to cover the bases specifically why I would encourage investors to invest deep in the Provincial sectors. By Promoting tourism and improve the qualityof lives and infrastructure of those provinces first and formost ever before the main urban capital cities as it would cost by far less money to do so anyways. I feel people go where the jobs are and where social and administrative, scholar and medical means are available. My other goal is to build up those Bordering Haitian-Dominican towns with modern day 21st century infrastructural capabilities. I also have slight intentions of implementing a Population Growth Limitation Law into Haiti much like in China if ever my political ambitions were to ever bring me to the brink and desire of running for a candidature at the presidency. Anyway, I am much more interested in bieng into something that has to do with the re-establishment of the Haitian Armed Forces to begin with. However, my aspirations seem to be gearing me toward such a goal; but given how I have seen those senators rejected many people on the premise of dual nationality issues in recent processes. As much as I am in limbo with this concept of dual nationality... I fear that as well if a reform for dual Nationality and Citizenship is not in effect any time soon in Haiti, such probability for me seems a moot one as it is a farfetched reality because they will always go into the technicalities of my mother and her mother being Dominican nationals. Much like they did to Ericq Pierre and Robert Manuel in the recent Prime Minister issue Haiti had recently faced last year. Anyway, to go back to what I was saying above regarding the building up of the bordering towns and campaign: __ This would aim to keep the migrants from going deeper into DR while both sides can benefit on this Custom Revenue by creating improved Duanas/Duanes ports for commercial trafficking trade flow to instill or retain many social and worker programs afloat on both sides. __ I feel if we can keep the migratory issues at bay at the borders, this may aliviate the influx or exodus of Haitians heading into DR thus this may resolve the social issue burdens they represent to DR. __ A Developmental & Infrastructural Project that would consist of "Drainage & Irrigation." As indeed it is a Public Health matter that such revenues from those specified areas of many social projects I have lsited above can generate and which could be a conjuncturing work both nations the DR and Haiti can start partaking into since they both get their drinking water source from the same River/Rio "D'artibonite - Artibonito." P.S: There is a lot of work for Haiti's causes, and the causes are not at all simple with easy quick fixes. However, starting somewhere is a must in almost whichever order one may chose to go about starting. * As the above plans may vary futher in junctions with more detailing aspects of other fundamental foundational changes that must arise, improve and be fixed as well. Although these emplimentations are not set in stones and can be debatable, but those are my platforms. |
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| #98 - Posted 14 November 2009, 12:28 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2217 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution Quote: AfroLatino1 previously said: And lastly also this one: MY LONG SHOT IN HELL PLAN: However, please hear me out on this one. Please with all racism, resentments and discriminations aside for a minute. One of the other reason why DR also have such influx of Haitian illegals is because there are no protectorate measures to encourage illegals to come out of the shadow. To rid of all ambiguities and obscurities, establishing some amnesty for illegals to turn themselves in or that they can be given a certain grace period of time to get some kind of Temporary Dominican Discretionary documentation for certain fees and a certain duration which can be renewable each time such document expires. Thus the illegal migratory issues would in effect by then be solved as DR's government would actually have a well legal profitable revenue in terms of having means to sustain those programs by hiring and trained actual Dominicans because this would create jobs as from this received revenue, money could be used to provide better border patrol, security and improvements to be made which also with such revenue money can be used to perhaps develop those border towns where perhaps Haitians would most likely remained. P.S: Those ideas above, knowing the known prejudices, resentments to include the extreme protectionist conservative radicalism it would be far fetched. However, allowing people to apply and pay for some kind of recognized "Limited Legalization" does not mean that this constitutes to guarantee these individuals with citizenships. This would simply mean that you have better control in knowing or tracking who is legal and not legal, where in the country they are or can be found at all times. What real incentive does this provide for the illegals? Why not continue with how they do things since it seems to work well enough for them. I would rather the border towns be populated with Dominicans. |
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| #99 - Posted 14 November 2009, 2:50 AM | |
Location: United States, San Diego, CA - (Dei sitio) Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2589 Posts: 368 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: AfroLatino1 previously said: And lastly also this one: MY LONG SHOT IN HELL PLAN: However, please hear me out on this one. Please with all racism, resentments and discriminations aside for a minute. One of the other reason why DR also have such influx of Haitian illegals is because there are no protectorate measures to encourage illegals to come out of the shadow. To rid of all ambiguities and obscurities, establishing some amnesty for illegals to turn themselves in or that they can be given a certain grace period of time to get some kind of Temporary Dominican Discretionary documentation for certain fees and a certain duration which can be renewable each time such document expires. Thus the illegal migratory issues would in effect by then be solved as DR's government would actually have a well legal profitable revenue in terms of having means to sustain those programs by hiring and trained actual Dominicans because this would create jobs as from this received revenue, money could be used to provide better border patrol, security and improvements to be made which also with such revenue money can be used to perhaps develop those border towns where perhaps Haitians would most likely remained. P.S: Those ideas above, knowing the known prejudices, resentments to include the extreme protectionist conservative radicalism it would be far fetched. However, allowing people to apply and pay for some kind of recognized "Limited Legalization" does not mean that this constitutes to guarantee these individuals with citizenships. This would simply mean that you have better control in knowing or tracking who is legal and not legal, where in the country they are or can be found at all times. What real incentive does this provide for the illegals? Why not continue with how they do things since it seems to work well enough for them. I would rather the border towns be populated with Dominicans. I would rather see the border provinces transformed to miltary bases or military controlled areas...I would just leave 3 or 4 well controlled border crossing ports for commerce and controlled influx of vistors and businessmen. If you think about if, the border provinces are very low populated areas. Let's just relocate most of these people inland and set up 50 - 60% of our army there. "La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée" - Charles de Talleyrand-Périgord |
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| #100 - Posted 14 November 2009, 12:20 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2217 | RE: Thumbs down on new Constitution Quote: perlurdom previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: AfroLatino1 previously said: And lastly also this one: MY LONG SHOT IN HELL PLAN: However, please hear me out on this one. Please with all racism, resentments and discriminations aside for a minute. One of the other reason why DR also have such influx of Haitian illegals is because there are no protectorate measures to encourage illegals to come out of the shadow. To rid of all ambiguities and obscurities, establishing some amnesty for illegals to turn themselves in or that they can be given a certain grace period of time to get some kind of Temporary Dominican Discretionary documentation for certain fees and a certain duration which can be renewable each time such document expires. Thus the illegal migratory issues would in effect by then be solved as DR's government would actually have a well legal profitable revenue in terms of having means to sustain those programs by hiring and trained actual Dominicans because this would create jobs as from this received revenue, money could be used to provide better border patrol, security and improvements to be made which also with such revenue money can be used to perhaps develop those border towns where perhaps Haitians would most likely remained. P.S: Those ideas above, knowing the known prejudices, resentments to include the extreme protectionist conservative radicalism it would be far fetched. However, allowing people to apply and pay for some kind of recognized "Limited Legalization" does not mean that this constitutes to guarantee these individuals with citizenships. This would simply mean that you have better control in knowing or tracking who is legal and not legal, where in the country they are or can be found at all times. What real incentive does this provide for the illegals? Why not continue with how they do things since it seems to work well enough for them. I would rather the border towns be populated with Dominicans. I would rather see the border provinces transformed to miltary bases or military controlled areas...I would just leave 3 or 4 well controlled border crossing ports for commerce and controlled influx of vistors and businessmen. If you think about if, the border provinces are very low populated areas. Let's just relocate most of these people inland and set up 50 - 60% of our army there. Much better idea. |
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