| #1 - Posted 10 September 2008, 9:15 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | HAITI AND ITS FIXING PRICE. By Wilgeens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg. http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.Skyrock.com Haiti is a small Country of 9 million people. Aides were or have been giving out to Haiti in sums that is or have often been in the amount of $200 million if not more. France alone recently France had doubled an amount of $200 Million which it had promised Haiti. Let us say for mere laughs' sake you were to give $10 million to the 9 million people population of Haiti's from that first $200 million as a $1.00 increase surplus to that reported $ $2.00 a day that it is said the average poor Haitian depends on to survive a day in Haiti which would come to be very helpful and there would still be exactly $190 million left without even counting or addition the other additional $200 million... What is Haiti going to actually do with all the rest of the money? That is without also taking into accountability the addition aids of the so many non-profit organizations that have invested in Haiti with both humanitarian time effort and monetary effort. Why is that things have not gotten better in Haiti, and how come all these aides have never actually fixed anything since and if they are being or have been given out every time every so often on a regular basis to those poor Countries especially to a Country like Haiti in particular? In other words, even the money of the richest man alive in the world could not help or even buy an Island like Haiti and try to fix it if all those aides money have not or cannot help fix Haiti since Haitians nor their Government have not made those aides money work for Haiti nor taking advantage of these funds. So just how much is Haiti really worth to be fixed? Edited on 9/27/2008 4:12 PM by AfroLatino. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #2 - Posted 10 September 2008, 11:41 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 96 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Quote: AfroLatino previously said: HAITI AND ITS FIXING PRICE. By Wilgeens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg. One thing many people can never understand about Aid money to poor Countries and their Governments to places like Haiti for instance is that, it is all a scam, a big joke game much like playing Monopoly and giving people of those poor nations false hope while the world's government officials are getting richer. How and why you may ask? Well, many countries are giving out aides in the millions at times even billions. Haiti is a small Country of 9 million people for example, and aides were or have been giving out in sums that is often in the amount of 200 million dollars alone from France of which recently France had doubled that amount. Let us say oh just for mere laughs' sake if you were to give 1 million dollars to each of the 9 million people of Haiti's population from that 200 million dollars, there would still be exactly 191 million dollars left in addition to the other doubled additional 200 million dollars which brings us instead to an amount of 391 million dollars that is left. Without even including other funds from other countries but that of the $391 Million from France alone... What is Haiti going to actually do with all the rest of the money? That is without even counting the aid money other Countries will give or have given Haiti that will or have been again in the millions if not more... also with the addition of the so many non-profit organizations that have invested in Haiti with both humanitarian time effort and monetary effort. Why is that things have not gotten better in Haiti, and how come all these aides have never actually fixed anything since and if they are being given out every time and a regular basis to those poor Countries especially to a Country like Haiti in particular? In other words, even the money of the richest man alive could not help or even buy an Island like Haiti and try to fix it if all those aides money have not or cannot help fix Haiti since Haitians nor their Government have not made those aides money work for Haiti nor taking advantage of these funds. So just how much is Haiti really worth to be fixed? Did you mean $1.00 for each citizen? To fix Haiti, you'd have to get rid of a corrupted and ME mind-set . After that, the Diaspora has to be given dual nationality. Third, Security has to improve ten-fold to allow a larger percentage of Haitians to consider the country for their vacations. And then, the work starts. |
| #3 - Posted 10 September 2008, 6:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Yes, Truthfully $1.00 indeed as an increase to the reported $2.00 a day that the average poor Haitian with or without a job have to struggle to get to survive. http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.Skyrock.com You are about the first person to get the math right and assumed it right as many seem to have thought that I mean $1 Million for each and every single Haitian living in Haiti (lol). Thank you for getting it right on the first go. In the meantime, on my next post called "COULD $400 MILLION ACTUALLY HELP FIX HAITI OR NOT ?" Tell me what you think of this little plan which is not much, but only brainstorming ideas that I feel could be helpful if actual Haitian politicians had Haiti's interest in mind and not their own pockets. I like your ideas! Will Rosenberg P.S: You still have not told me just about how much monetarily do you think might actually help to fix Haiti? Where is Lautaro? Edited on 9/15/2008 12:30 AM by AfroLatino. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| #4 - Posted 11 September 2008, 12:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? COULD $400 MILLION ACTUALLY HELP FIX HAITI OR NOT? THE HAITI PLAN AND ITS FIXING PRICE. By Wilgeens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.Skyrock.com One thing many people can never understand about Aid money to poor Countries and their Governments to places like Haiti for instance is that it is all a scam, a big joke, a game much like playing Monopoly and giving people of those poor nations false hope while the world's government officials are getting richer. Many countries have promised to give out aides in the millions, at times even in the billions to Haiti which is a small Country of 9 million people. For example, France has just promised Haiti an Aid of $400 Million and other Countries like Spain has promised $100 Million. So, are we to believe that all these funds still cannot help start fixing Haiti? Let us say just for mere a good laugh's sake and to go out on a high expensive limb that if you were to take $30 Million of the Aid money from France and invest it into some sort of a Welfare Account System for the mass poor population, and another $30 Million invested in hiring administrative workers to properly manage and enroll the Haitian population into the program by issuing to each individual Haitian a W.A.S account and Card with an individual number much like the social security card system where each Zoning Departments in the Country would have the first three numbers be that department code and Identifier so that I know where each and every individual Haitians are from. $40 Million of that fund would be applied toward getting a good computer system that would be used to properly help document and safeguard documents, files and records keeping and to also work in conjunction with the Haitian Department of Tax & Contribution and The Haitian National Archives. Thus that way I would know where each and every individuals are from upon enrollment as they would to present their Birth Certificates and that would allow administrators to know how to properly give those individuals a Departmental Zoning number. All those that do not have a Birth Certificates or cannot locate or provide their Birth Certificates due to or because of the incompetence and lack of record keeping of the Haitian Archive System, I would issue those individual a distinctive different set of first three numbers that would automatically indicate just that just so I could start the process of Decentralization and Privatization. So thus far, that has put us at a sum of only $100 Million. Now Haiti has 9 Departments, and even if this $400 Million from France is no totally in hard cash value and with the consideration of all kinds of deductions to be taken out, but now with all kinds of typical excuses there may be, let us keep in mind that this $400 Million amount is in Euros. So, I doubt it that not even $200 Million of that would not be in actual tangible hard cash value even if you were to bring the exchanging rate to actual US dollars which is less than the Euro, and we have not even gotten to the $100 Million from Spain yet. So with that being said, again, Haiti has 9 Departments... How about giving $1 Million to each one of those Departments as a Budget surplus as I would divide and assign a Departmental Governor-al System that would allow each departments to balance, manage and generate each of their own respective Zoning budgets and Economy as I would give an additional $1 Million to each of those Departments to be only invested in Agricultural and Irrigation developments. The weird thing of what baffles me the most is that those are not the only aides and contributions that Haiti is getting. As we all know many more Countries has promised Aides and with the help of many Private Organizations, Non-Profit organization and Associations. Anyhow, since Haiti would have to pay back those aides anyway, so why not put the funds to actual good use. However what I hear instead are a lot of "can't(s)" from Haitians than I hear "can(s)" as excuses and the thoughts of impossibilities which run rampant in their minds as they put a pessimistic spin to everything because Haitians are stubborn, they love to play victims and like to go against another one's idea just for the hell of it by even ignoring the main focus or question written from even the title of a post. P.S: The question is, if Haiti were given $400 Million how would that money be used to fix Haiti had you been in charge of the Country? Please give a little detail of your plan and process in some kind of order and priority. Dominicans or Haitians, I would like to know and read your plans and ideas, please. Edited on 9/15/2008 12:31 AM by AfroLatino. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| #5 - Posted 11 September 2008, 1:25 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 630 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? 1. Haiti needs first and foremost a Leader that inspires the people 2. Haiti needs an army to wrestle control from thugs to the Government. 3. Haiti needs Money to do all that it plans to do. $42 dollars per person donated by france isn't going to achieve anything significant. |
| #6 - Posted 11 September 2008, 1:40 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: 1. Haiti needs first and foremost a Leader that inspires the people 2. Haiti needs an army to wrestle control from thugs to the Government. 3. Haiti needs Money to do all that it plans to do. $42 dollars per person donated by france isn't going to achieve anything significant. True and I agree with answer 1, the first part of answer 3 and oh, also answer 2 made sense as well to me sine I feel that I could be a good advocate for it as I have once written a post here on this forum about the re-establishment of the Haitian Armed Forces. http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.Skyrock.com However right now, I really see that it is not priority nor should it be the very top in the least, but surely not last. Nonetheless, what do you think of my ideas above of what I would do with that $400 Million if it were to be given in cold hard cash value to Haiti's Government? Edited on 9/15/2008 12:32 AM by AfroLatino. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| #7 - Posted 11 September 2008, 3:11 PM | |
Location: Canada, Oakville on terra firma Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 503 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Hoora Maxine Waters for President http://www.haitiaction.net/News/MW/9_11_8.html let hope she does not bring Aristide back |
| #8 - Posted 11 September 2008, 5:37 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: December 2007 Member #: 27 Posts: 971 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Afro; I strongly suggest you redo your math, because you are entirely incorrect as to theamount ofmoney that would be made available to each Haitian. If you take theentire amount available from France ($400 million) and divide it by the 9 million recipients, you come up with something like $44.44 per person. As to the rest of your comment, that is rendeed moot in light of your original calculation. Go back to school and relearn your math. TexasBill Texas Bill (The EYES of Texas are upon YOU, so be nice) |
| #9 - Posted 11 September 2008, 7:44 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 630 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Quote: AfroLatino previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: 1. Haiti needs first and foremost a Leader that inspires the people 2. Haiti needs an army to wrestle control from thugs to the Government. 3. Haiti needs Money to do all that it plans to do. $42 dollars per person donated by france isn't going to achieve anything significant. True and I agree with answer 1, the first part of answer 3 and oh, also answer 2 made sense as well to me sine I feel that I could be a good advocate for it as I have once written a post here on this forum about the re-establishment of the Haitian Armed Forces. However right now, I really see that it is not priority nor should it be the very top in the least, but surely not last. Nonetheless, what do you think of my ideas above of what I would do with that $400 Million if it were to be given in cold hard cash value to Haiti's Government? Reestablishing the armed forces is a top priority AFRO. Those former military men of the Haitin army, disbanded by aristy, aren't planting rice in Haiti and making an honest living, they are the thugs that undermine any legit government and cause violence. Drugs and banditry finance these guys. They will follow order from where the money is coming from. So I say again the Government needs to fill this power vacuum being filled by international drug dealers. Then Haiti can begin healing!!! |
| #10 - Posted 11 September 2008, 7:55 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | RE: How Much Money Could Actually Fix Haiti? Quote: TexasBill previously said: Afro; I strongly suggest you redo your math, because you are entirely incorrect as to the amount of money that would be made available to each Haitian. If you take the entire amount available from France ($400 million) and divide it by the 9 million recipients, you come up with something like $44.44 per person. As to the rest of your comment, that is rendeed moot in light of your original calculation. Go back to school and relearn your math. TexasBill TexasBill, Thank you for your enlightenment... Of course if you take 400 divided by 9 it would be $44.44 Feel free to read some of my other ideas @ http://www.HispanolanoYoSoy.Skyrock.com However what I said was or perhaps I should have said but I see many people are not getting it is that I would take only $9 Million from that $400 Million to give a surplus increase of an additional of $1.00 per each Haitian on top of the already known and reported $2.00 a day that they say the average most poor Haitian in Haiti with or without a job depends on to survive for a day, not the whole $400 Million, of course that would be absurd and preposterous. Maybe my wording of it was wrong why people are getting it mixed up , Bill. However, before you call my idea a moot one, did you read my whole W.A.S idea? About my W.A.S idea, how I would give them that $1.00 incentive would be by opening up some kind of Welfare Account System for them (Much like an Unemployment Account) where that dollar would go to just for the process of providing each individual Haitian with an account as some sort of Social Security Banking System that would allow me to get an accurate number of the population as well as I would use that as a mean to start the Decentralization & Privatization Campaign in effort to ease up the focus and congestion off of Port-Au-Prince by providing some kind of distinct Departmental and Zoning number to each individuals issued a WAS account. If there is any light of success at the end of the tunnel for that plan, I would see to it that every month the most needy impoverish Haitian gets $15 US a month in that account under the consideration I know for a fact that such an individual is really unemployed and meet the criteria to get that benefit. Which means, certain proofs would have to be provided by such an individual making the claim. Keep in mind, this is simply an idea and nothing concrete and written in stones. Edited on 9/15/2008 12:34 AM by AfroLatino. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |



