Haitians in Villa Altagracia source: DR1 October 8, 2008




It has already started and there's no turning back... Only el Jefe-reborn can dig us out of this one!

That's scary stuff. I generally avoid anti-Haitian sentiment but if this becomes widespread I don't see how I could blame anyone for turning against them. There's no excuse for doing this to a place where you are an immigrant, not even poverty...and especially no excuse if you know what it has done to your original home.

Deforestation always makes me think of this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_island#Destruction_of_the_ecosystem

That's not the worst thing about it, Manhattanite, but the fact that our authorities are letting this to happen on their watch. No wonder people resort to lynching these days, with authorities as irresponsible as these, people have no other choice than to take the delivering of justice on their own hands, so to speak.

So I see this site is engaging in deleting people's fact about this... What happened to my reply to this post?

Wow, was the truth too much to bare?

I said the very same thing in my response to this Lautaro, but as you can see this site is engaging in deleting the truth about this whole thing. I have given facts on both side of the situation as I have even mentioned just as you have that Dominican Authorities still are part of this as much they do not want to admit when it comes to Charcoal importation. I even gave solution as to what I think is the best route for this or a t least an opinionated idea on how both nations can approach this. Because I for one is against deforestation anywhere on the globe.

The Dominican Government has encouraged and provided areas where tree cutting can take place in DR. Has any of you not taking this into accountability? DR is not 100% Propane thus it still relies on Charcoal which it imports from Haiti and as DR realizes how lucrative it is as well, they also use Haitian laborer to produce charcoal for them right inside of DR in bordering Dominican territories with Haiti. I suggest you guys do a thorough research on deforestation and see that it has become a business as much as they like to place all the blame on Haiti. Nonetheless, I do blame the Haitian government for all their failures to its citizens when it come to all that have collapse the Haitian economy integrity without any doubts, but both Nations on the Island havenot been pro-active to crack down on those cutting trees, but first, better jobs for the Island's citizens and improvement on cooking energy is a must and in order to do that we must develop alternative for cooking energies thus rid ourselves of Charcoal and make propane affordable for all.

Read what is written here and I will give you specific contradicting quote form what is said above.

El Dia newspaper is denouncing reports that Haitian immigrants living in Hormigo, Villa Altagracia are toppling trees for making charcoal for cooking.

My first correction is: Do you even know what the word denouncing is or means? I am sure you meant to say announcing.

The newspaper says that the practice is increasing amidst the silence and complicity of the authorities. As it is stated here, this indicates the involvement of Dominican Authorities involvements.

What kind of policing and government authority who are against such an act would still allow this to continue if knowing this exact information? The report says that the Haitians have an enormous oven from where they produce about 10 bags of charcoal a day for sale and for personal consumption.

80% of Charcoal energy is imported into DR and if DR was such a Charcoal independent Nation why do they continue on buying the Charcoal from the Haitians and even provided Haitians laborers in Dominican republic location where they can cut and create ovens for the making of Charcoal?

Lastly, we all know DR is not a 100% propane nation in order for it to say that they do not rely on Charcoal energy for cooking, as it has been reported that 80% of their cooking energy is Charcoal dependent since not all of DR's citizen can afford propane and much rely on charcoal which is the norm for most under-developed third world nations around the world; especially in Hispaniola's case.

Granted Haiti can be held responsible for Haiti's deforestation and condition as I for one is against tree cutting given the known fact we have developed the alternative already which is propane, but DR cannot say that Haiti is the Country that has introduced Charcoal to them since it is the norm on the entire island for cooking energy, DR itself practices Charcoal production and used Haitian laborers to produce it, with Dominican authorities providing them with locations and ovens on nearby border Dominican towns and cities just as the sugar cane and illegal immigrant human trafficking exploitation that DR is cashing on in as Charcoal is for most part the actual norms for even other THIRD WORLD IMPOVERISHED UNDER-DEVELOPED NATIONS in the world, specifically the Latin-Americas.

Let us get real facts about the island and the environmental differences of both Nations as to what also help contribute to deforestation without even taking the blame on Haiti as also a major contributer to deforestation on "their" side of the Island as I, too, do blame the Haitian government for not having or still are not being pro-active on the matter, but first...

THE FACTS ABOUT CHARCOAL:
http://rael.berkeley.edu/files/2005/Kammen-Lew-Charcoal-2005.pdf

Second of all, Haiti was deemed ecologically unfortunate to begin with environmentally and geographically speaking. Why? Well, the fact is to reveal clearly that in contrast, the Haitian side is drier because of that barrier of high mountains blocking rains from the east and the continuing growth of poverty and social and political instability there in Haiti does not help the situation.. Compared to the Dominican Republic — a higher percentage of Haiti’s area is mountainous — the area of flat land good for intensive agriculture is much smaller. There is more limestone terrain and the soils are thinner and less fertile and have a lower capacity for recovery. However there are solutions if both governments on the Island actually take time to work together on this issue or matter by taking a look at this given link here http://www.earthsangha.org/tb/tbmsn.html

Note the paradox: The Haitian side of the island was less well endowed environmentally but developed a rich agricultural economy before the Dominican side. The explanation of this paradox is that Haiti’s burst of agricultural wealth came at the expense of its environmental capital of forests and soils.

P.S: I hope some of you do have a stomach for an unbiased reports that are not simple basic wikipedia and actually I pray that some of you can read and comprehend these facts provided on these links...

http://www.theglobalist.com/dbweb/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=4776
http://evo.bio.psu.edu/caribherp/biogeo/hisp.htm