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Vega thinks US will pressure DR on Haiti
Economist and historian Bernardo Vega says that the Dominican Republic could be subject to political pressure from the United States, once Barack Obama takes office, on the issue of the presence of Haitians in the DR. In this sense Vega pointed out that Obama has advisors who feel that the Dominican Republic has to do something about the undocumented Haitian issue. He said, "Political pressure is going to be applied from that direction."
Vega appeared on the El Dia program on Telesistema, where he also analyzed what bilateral relations between the DR and the US might be like under the Obama government. He indicated that based on what was said during the campaign, John McCain's position was more convenient for the Dominican Republic on the issues of trade, immigration and drugs. Vega said that McCain, in his campaign, favored new legislation on immigration that would have permitted Dominican relatives living in this country to join their families living in the United States. In contrast, Obama, who is influenced by the unions, was less in favor of immigration. On the question of free trade agreements (FTA), Vega reminded viewers that Obama had refused to vote in favor of an agreement of this type with Colombia and he has announced that he would review the NAFTA agreement between the United States Canada and Mexico, but Obama "has said nothing about the DR-CAFTA agreement.
Clave newspaper reports today that a poll by The Economist showed that Dominicans in the DR were the most enthusiastic supporters of the Obama candidacy. Nevertheless, editor Fausto Rosario makes the point that Obama has said he would revise US free trade agreements and has very good relations with the Black Caucus that supports the Haitian lobby in Washington on controversial migration issues.
Interviewed for a morning TV talk show, Rosario Espinal, professor of political sociology at Temple University, told journalist Huchi Lora that if pressure comes for resolving the status of Haitians in the DR this should be welcomed. She criticized the traditional laissez-faire attitude of Dominican governments to years of unchecked migration. She observed that if the US government becomes more open to its own illegal migration, there could be increased pressure on the DR to assimilate the illegal Haitians.
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The revision of FTA's may be to DR's advantage. DR can be self sufficient in food, and can import other goods from Europe, China, S. America. France etc. are keen to increase trade. Modifying NAFTA could mean that DR imports directly to USA, not via Mexico for final finishing etc. DR could raise revenue by raising duty on US goods including farm produce, and also give its own producers a chance.
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John McCain's position was more convenient for the Dominican Republic on the issues of trade, immigration and drugs. Vega said that McCain, in his campaign, favored new legislation on immigration that would have permitted Dominican relatives living in this country to join their families living in the United States.


So, if Mc.Cain's presidency's position would have had allowed that which is a stance that is aiming to be lenient to DR which I would not have not have been against such a provision if it were to really happened, then however, why is it that if an Obama policy were to be directed toward asking DR to forge better relations with Haiti would be a bad thing?
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Vega thinks US will pressure DR on Haiti
Economist and historian Bernardo Vega says that the Dominican Republic could be subject to political pressure from the United States, once Barack Obama takes office, on the issue of the presence of Haitians in the DR. In this sense Vega pointed out that Obama has advisors who feel that the Dominican Republic has to do something about the undocumented Haitian issue. He said, "Political pressure is going to be applied from that direction."
Vega appeared on the El Dia program on Telesistema, where he also analyzed what bilateral relations between the DR and the US might be like under the Obama government. He indicated that based on what was said during the campaign, John McCain's position was more convenient for the Dominican Republic on the issues of trade, immigration and drugs. Vega said that McCain, in his campaign, favored new legislation on immigration that would have permitted Dominican relatives living in this country to join their families living in the United States. In contrast, Obama, who is influenced by the unions, was less in favor of immigration. On the question of free trade agreements (FTA), Vega reminded viewers that Obama had refused to vote in favor of an agreement of this type with Colombia and he has announced that he would review the NAFTA agreement between the United States Canada and Mexico, but Obama "has said nothing about the DR-CAFTA agreement.
Clave newspaper reports today that a poll by The Economist showed that Dominicans in the DR were the most enthusiastic supporters of the Obama candidacy. Nevertheless, editor Fausto Rosario makes the point that Obama has said he would revise US free trade agreements and has very good relations with the Black Caucus that supports the Haitian lobby in Washington on controversial migration issues.
Interviewed for a morning TV talk show, Rosario Espinal, professor of political sociology at Temple University, told journalist Huchi Lora that if pressure comes for resolving the status of Haitians in the DR this should be welcomed. She criticized the traditional laissez-faire attitude of Dominican governments to years of unchecked migration. She observed that if the US government becomes more open to its own illegal migration, there could be increased pressure on the DR to assimilate the illegal Haitians.


I always knew that this would happen... Am glad someone as intelligent as Bernardo Vega would agree with previews postings of mine... We should not give in to pressure... DR already has to much haitians to deal with...

We should in any circumstances make a study report on the haitian infiltration of DR and Movies perhaps... about the abuse we have been subjected by this barbaric people, about all the benefits they take and their lack of contribution to our society...

If a picture is worth a thousand words then a movie is worth a MILLION.
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The revision of FTA's may be to DR's advantage. DR can be self sufficient in food, and can import other goods from Europe, China, S. America. France etc. are keen to increase trade. Modifying NAFTA could mean that DR imports directly to USA, not via Mexico for final finishing etc. DR could raise revenue by raising duty on US goods including farm produce, and also give its own producers a chance.



That I agree, that a revision of NAFTA or DR-CAFTA in general would be or serve as great advantage to DR and potentially the entire Island if not the whole region as a whole. As you mention and I support that motion, self-sufficiency is the goal that the Island both DR and Haiti must gear towards which would levigate the migration - immigration problem between the two Countries.

In other words, if NAFTA's provision is revised properly it could bring a slight relief in terms of economical revenue for Haiti in the hope that the Haitian government exploit that means to provide jobs to its citizens so that the influx or flood of Haitians heading toward the border would decrease tremendously, thus given the two nations a better chance at tackling other social-political issues both together and separately.

Perhaps then proper relations can emerge between the two sovereign independent Nations, gracefully I hope. Remember, "When in bad economy situation, social differences arouse and bring to focus all types of bigotry as already if bad historical resentments were never alleviated" and that is the case for mostly any countries, especially if they share borders.
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Very interesting Arka... I wonder what AfroHaitiano would have to say... Though i don't think he'll read it


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http://www.clavedigital.com/ktmllite/files/uploads/Derechos%20Humanos/Caso-Haitiano.pdf

Very interesting Arka... I wonder what AfroHaitiano would have to say... Though i don't think he'll read it



As usual, we know it was not going to be before long until you two come tarnish this thread and kill any potential it has or to may have had to possibly could have been a great educative productive constructive debate by going off course and start engaging in your Anti-Haitian campaign, smearing Haiti and Haitians, golly! Typically usual and as always, I did not expect any more nor less from you two. If you two can read and see that this discussion was heading toward a more economical stance and pressure in regards to the DR-CAFTA / NAFTA deal that if gotten revised properly may come of great relieve for DR, Haiti and the rest of the Caribbean or Central-Latin America, thus many hope would give great a boost in terms of economical surpluses which would deem advantageous to governments in the region in whole at a chance to become self-sufficient for long durations.
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I don't think Dominican Republic policy will come up in any significant way in the proverbial first hundred days of this administration. What kind of attention is given to DR after the initial phase of domestic policy work all depends on what kind of headlines Dominicans make in the next 4-5 months on this issue.

I think we all know what kind of headlines will bring the Marines knocking, so the question for those whose crusade is anti-Hatianism is if and when you would like them to arrive.
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I don't think Dominican Republic policy will come up in any significant way in the proverbial first hundred days of this administration. What kind of attention is given to DR after the initial phase of domestic policy work all depends on what kind of headlines Dominicans make in the next 4-5 months on this issue.

I think we all know what kind of headlines will bring the Marines knocking, so the question for those whose crusade is anti-Hatianism is if and when you would like them to arrive.




Thank you Manha!

If baffles me beyond measures to see how two individual buffoons can manage to each time disturb great dialogues and cannot, not for any known common sense in their brains, keep a thread to its educative productive sense as oppose to make it their very own personal debacle campaign of their radical-extremist-rightist hateful racist rants towards Haitians.

Yet no matter what the real facts are, they make it their missions to anyway oppose others and Haitians from contesting their already known preconceived prejudicial bias tenures. As they believe that it is a degrading thing in their minds to call everyone who disagree with them "A Haitian" in effort to insult people when their imbecilities are not getting through. For the life of what little brain cells they have, they cannot even give good opinions on the premise of what the discussion is really about which in this case is more based on (Free Trade Agreement) principally in the particularity of this case at hand here and of relevance that of DR-CAFTA / NAFTA and Foreign Relations Policies & Diplomacy.

You can tell they are two fools seeking attention simply because all their posts they have developed a style in stance to put in "bold" what they have to say in effort to gravitate diversion to matters they cannot give real factual opinions upon.


P.S: By the way, what they do not know is that I am way ahead of them as I already have that PDF File Report, and then what...? You would think they would at least try to do a little research on the DR-CAFTA aspect matter so that they do not sound as ridiculously dumb as they sound right now.
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