| #81 - Posted 13 December 2008, 9:17 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4956 | RE: New Organization Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place. Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You must really hate your countrymen that much if you want that scenario to happen that badly. Edited on 12/13/2008 9:33 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #82 - Posted 13 December 2008, 9:45 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2673 | RE: New Organization Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place. Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You really must hate your countrymen if you want that scenario to happen that badly. Hey Dominicanation why this obsession to be Dominican ? I understand you are half, your family may be united but the island not, just be happy with what you are, you can not change 200 years of history overnight, Why so much negative rethoric coming from you ,if you want to be like them. Sound confusing, I understand that you ready to give up your culture, language. I challenge you to open a thread, about that same topic in HaitiXchange, let me know the result. Edited on 12/13/2008 9:46 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #83 - Posted 13 December 2008, 10:07 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2673 | RE: New Organization Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place. Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You really must hate your countrymen if you want that scenario to happen that badly. Hey Dominicanation why this obsession to be Dominican ? I understand you are half, your family may be united but the island not, just be happy with what you are, you can not change 200 years of history overnight, Why so much negative rethoric coming from you ,if you want to be like them. Sound confusing, I understand that you ready to give up your culture, language. I challenge you to open a thread, about that same topic in HaitiXchange, let me know the result. by the way Dominicanation (Haitianation) here's a thread about the same subject in HaitiXchange ironically unification proposed by some Dominicans enjoy ...for your reading pleasure http://www.haitixchange.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/1331/ We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #84 - Posted 13 December 2008, 10:25 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 9069 | RE: New Organization Mr Lautaro, i made mention of the fact that Haiti would lose equally if it attacked the DR; once again, homefield advantage. and Carlos Franco; first rule of battle; try not to fight against people who have less to lose than you do. Americans win battles only because of vastly superior equipment. send them into guerilla warfare with similar armaments as the enemy ,and they get cut to ribbons. the other guys have nothing to live for; they will die just to kill you. Mr America wants to go back home to Mom, apple pie, and his childhood sweetheart Mary Sue. among the drawbacks would be the fact that the hospitality industry would be decimated, and need years to recover. you can be sure that if the DR attacked Haiti, Haitians would attack tourists. hacking a few dozen tourists to pieces would put an end to Cap Cana. |
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| #85 - Posted 14 December 2008, 12:17 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4956 | RE: New Organization Quote: dreadlocks previously said: Mr Lautaro, i made mention of the fact that Haiti would lose equally if it attacked the DR; once again, homefield advantage. and Carlos Franco; first rule of battle; try not to fight against people who have less to lose than you do. Americans win battles only because of vastly superior equipment. send them into guerilla warfare with similar armaments as the enemy ,and they get cut to ribbons. the other guys have nothing to live for; they will die just to kill you. Mr America wants to go back home to Mom, apple pie, and his childhood sweetheart Mary Sue. among the drawbacks would be the fact that the hospitality industry would be decimated, and need years to recover. you can be sure that if the DR attacked Haiti, Haitians would attack tourists. hacking a few dozen tourists to pieces would put an end to Cap Cana. You can say that again. Regarding the US, I've heard that even though Obama might pull out the troops currently on Iraq, there's talk about him wanting to expand the american effort on Afghanistan, specially when we consider the fact that he'll leave Robert Gates on the Defense post. Does anybody have thoughts about the matter? Edited on 12/14/2008 12:25 AM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #86 - Posted 14 December 2008, 7:42 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 9069 | RE: New Organization yes, they intend to pull US troops out of iraq, and beef up the presence in afganistan. right now, the effort there is counterproductive, since all the americans seem to be achieving is to kill innocent civilians by airstrikes. every day there is a new report of some school, or wedding, or hospital, hit by bombs, wiping out innocents, mostly women and children. gates will stay on for a year or so, then we will see what happens if things get even worse. these are wars you cannot win, because you are not fighting against a country; you are fighting ideology. it is like the war on drugs, or prostitution. you cannot win!! |
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| #87 - Posted 14 December 2008, 10:59 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1313 Posts: 303 | RE: New Organization Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: dreadlocks previously said: can someone please explain to me how the DR could invade Haiti and defeat them in a war, on their turf? by what means? surely, the DR could not move a sufficiently large force across the border to beat the haitians by numbers. so, what do we have? better armament and munitions? anybody remembers what happened to Russia and Britain in afghanistan? and, i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules. it is just as ridiculous as believing that haiti could attack the DR and win a war! Right on the money, the Haitian terrain is really montainous thus complicating access by heavy equipement, also poor roads and DR limited military infrastructure will make the task of deploying troops difficult, it will come down to guerilla fights, and guts which will favor Haiti. I can not see any country attacking each other unless that president is delusional. By the way regardless of who start the war, DR lost will be enormous. That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place. Yes but, have you asked yourself the question of who will be really on top? Cuz' I assure you that it won't be the Jean Pierre selling skim ice on the avenues. If something, he will be even more down the ladder than before, having to cope not only with the Petionville elite, but also with the one of Los Cacicazgos to add insult to injury, twice despised and stepped upon by all the parties involved. You really must hate your countrymen if you want that scenario to happen that badly. Hey Dominicanation why this obsession to be Dominican ? I understand you are half, your family may be united but the island not, just be happy with what you are, you can not change 200 years of history overnight, Why so much negative rethoric coming from you ,if you want to be like them. Sound confusing, I understand that you ready to give up your culture, language. I challenge you to open a thread, about that same topic in HaitiXchange, let me know the result. 1) I've said it before and I will say it again "I Dominicanation do not recognize the Dominican Republic as a country but simply a de facto state of Haiti in other words the Dominican Republic is not a country. The only Dominicans I acknowledge are from a small Caribbean island called "DOMINICA" Thus the name Dominicanation is only of reference to the island of Dominica and not the de facto regime located on the eastern side of the island of "AYITI" Get it? 2) Now as for you LAU: You are truly an idiot if you think that the Dominicans would be on top if ever a forced reunification would take place for the simple fact that we would outnumber you more than you can ever imagine because we already have 2 million of our people living on the other side plus about another 500,000 thousand undercover Haitians. I'm referring to the Dominicans of Haitian descent that are pretending to be Dominicans and most of them do pass as Dominicans at ease in your country and of course you have the 1 million bateyees which are obviously Haitians. Then you will have this one tiny little problem the Haitian diaspora they will then have double citizenship in this new world and with that comes the Black Caucus. While Haiti will gain more devotees the so called Dominicans on the other hand will lose it's die hard supporters i.e. the Rubi's the Carlosfrancos, and the Arky's for these guys would rather move to P-R or Cuba then to share the island with us and that's how you will not be on top Laut. 3) Not only the Dominicans will not be able to fight a guerrilla style warfare with Haiti but psychologically we already have them beaten they won't come out at night because most of the Dominican soldiers will be afraid of Voodoo, you know the Tét sanko, the Baka, the Zombiefication, the Lougarous etc... Because no Dominican soldier would wants to get turned into a cow although you and I can agree that its all BS and that its impossible to turn a human into a cow but tryi telling the Dominican soldiers that. So you see home field advantage does makes us somewhat invincible. Now do you know how easy it is to shoot down an Helicopter or WWII type airplanes when you are on top of a mountain top. Very easy as you know the Nég mawon's are still operational and those guys knows mountains, in other words it would be very hard for the Dominican airforce to engage its enemy when they are already station on the mountain tops because in order for the Dominican airforce to effectively hit its target, they would have to fly lower which will bring them to about the same level as the mountain tops, so the down fall to them having to fly lower is any idiot with a rifle can shoot your plane down so you see my child the Dominicans can not defeat the Haitians in a war in their homeland for all those various reasons and then more. But the good news is we Haitians have already invaded your country with our sick and poor and you are virtually defenseless against that attack. HAITI 2 DR 0. jajajajajajajaja { You guys hate me don't you} Well you should unless you help me reunify the island in a peaceful manner the above would be a very realistic alternative. Will you help me? Edited on 12/14/2008 11:11 AM by Dominicanation. |
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| #88 - Posted 14 December 2008, 11:13 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 417 | RE: New Organization Edited on 12/15/2008 10:39 AM by kmnupe. |
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| #89 - Posted 14 December 2008, 11:26 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 887 Posts: 1577 | RE: New Organization This is really, really funny. What a good joke! Haiti fighting us. In case of war, we can be at Port-au-Prince in a week and without seeing one Haitian soldier in Santiago (North) or Azua (South). In a month, everything would be back on tracks on our territory, but defeating Haiti is the easy part. What are we going to do with that social, political and economical epic mess and with a territory with all its natural resources almost destroyed? Haiti in not a military problem for us anymore (and it never will be again). By the way, North and South Korea have both Koreans, the same people with a border between them. That is not (and it never will be) the case in our beautiful QUISQUEYA. |
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| #90 - Posted 14 December 2008, 12:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 887 Posts: 1577 | RE: New Organization Haitianation no. 1. “i hardly believe that the DR, has far superior high tech weapons than does haiti. it would boil down to a lot of guerilla street fighting, in which the home field advantage rules.” Haiti is fighting a war right now, the war for its survival and it is loosing it. Where are the “guerrilla street fighters”? Where are the braves Dessalines’ sons fighting for their children future, for their women honor, for their national proud? One of the best things Haitians can have in this world is Dominicans ruling over there. In no scenario we could be worse than the beasts actually ruling now. (As a matter of fact, annexation to Dominican Republic is an important option but, of course, we do not want it). Haitianation no. 2. “That;s what I've been trying to tell those idiots that want to start a war with Haiti. Yes DR will try to huff and puff but eventually, the UN will end up occupying both sides of the island at the same time. That's all. A FORCED REUNIFICATION again I win because that's what I wanted in the first place.” That is another big joke. Haiti is a headache for the international community. If someday we make the terrible mistake of invading Haiti just to grow up, the international community is going to be extraordinarily happy. In that scenario that is going to be our problem and only our problem, just as they want it right now. Edited on 12/14/2008 1:18 PM by PeRod. |
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