| #31 - Posted 18 December 2008, 8:09 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1387 Posts: 109 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: kmnupe previously said: Quote: arkatype previously said: Arkatype, Said Excellent PeRod good observation, i never can understand why haitians expect people to respond in a cordial manner when they never think first about fixing the problems in there own homeland. You want people to sacrifice but you dont feel or admit that the sacrifice first starts in Haiti. Crossing the border is not going to change the problems in Haiti, working in Haiti is the solution you should be after. Afterall the dominican state is not responsible for the political, environmental, population explosion and the many other ill's afflicting Haiti. I want to hear another tone from haitian posters instead of the defeated syndrome that haitians seem to suffer from, i want to hear that you want change, instead of emigrating illegally to D.R. The solutions are in Haiti not in Dominican Republic, here you will get one thing marginalization and you know what that means already. "A MAN NEEDS TO FEED HIS FAMILY FIRST BEFORE HE COULD LEND A HAND." Maybe you should go to Haiti and take a f*cking survey. Haitian posters here are not migrating to DR and I'm sure neither are their family members. You have a good fight and cause, but the wrong approach and arena. Incidentally, what exactly are the problems that YOU are fixing in the DR? I know personally that I've fixed the problems of some of your illegals here in the US. You talk all this sh*t but never in a million years would you work for CESFRONT. The problems do start in Haiti and fixing them are Haiti's job, but, tell starving and desperate people that they have to help fix a situation that's wayyy above their means and might. YOU all should petition your government to deport illegals and stop allowing people to give them jobs. End of story. Period. Anything else is Hot-air. Haiti will never get on her feet alone. NEVER. NEVER. If you call that a defeatist mindset, you truly do not understand the gravity of the situation. It's been interesting. My internet experience has perhaps ruined my love for the DR and the people I used to call "primo/prima". Keep spreading your hate for it will surely come back to you. I fail to see the hate you point out on arkatype's post. All his saying YOU should get off your ass and start doing something for YOUR country. |
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| #32 - Posted 18 December 2008, 8:16 AM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2578 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: HonestAbe previously said: Quote: kmnupe previously said: Quote: arkatype previously said: Arkatype, Said Excellent PeRod good observation, i never can understand why haitians expect people to respond in a cordial manner when they never think first about fixing the problems in there own homeland. You want people to sacrifice but you dont feel or admit that the sacrifice first starts in Haiti. Crossing the border is not going to change the problems in Haiti, working in Haiti is the solution you should be after. Afterall the dominican state is not responsible for the political, environmental, population explosion and the many other ill's afflicting Haiti. I want to hear another tone from haitian posters instead of the defeated syndrome that haitians seem to suffer from, i want to hear that you want change, instead of emigrating illegally to D.R. The solutions are in Haiti not in Dominican Republic, here you will get one thing marginalization and you know what that means already. "A MAN NEEDS TO FEED HIS FAMILY FIRST BEFORE HE COULD LEND A HAND." Maybe you should go to Haiti and take a f*cking survey. Haitian posters here are not migrating to DR and I'm sure neither are their family members. You have a good fight and cause, but the wrong approach and arena. Incidentally, what exactly are the problems that YOU are fixing in the DR? I know personally that I've fixed the problems of some of your illegals here in the US. You talk all this sh*t but never in a million years would you work for CESFRONT. The problems do start in Haiti and fixing them are Haiti's job, but, tell starving and desperate people that they have to help fix a situation that's wayyy above their means and might. YOU all should petition your government to deport illegals and stop allowing people to give them jobs. End of story. Period. Anything else is Hot-air. Haiti will never get on her feet alone. NEVER. NEVER. If you call that a defeatist mindset, you truly do not understand the gravity of the situation. It's been interesting. My internet experience has perhaps ruined my love for the DR and the people I used to call "primo/prima". Keep spreading your hate for it will surely come back to you. I fail to see the hate you point out on arkatype's post. All his saying YOU should get off your ass and start doing something for YOUR country. Have you been reading Arky post lately, I do not disagree with what arky said, however how do you take him seriously when most of his posting are blatantly anti Haitian We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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| #33 - Posted 18 December 2008, 8:23 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1387 Posts: 109 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: HonestAbe previously said: Quote: kmnupe previously said: Quote: arkatype previously said: Arkatype, Said Excellent PeRod good observation, i never can understand why haitians expect people to respond in a cordial manner when they never think first about fixing the problems in there own homeland. You want people to sacrifice but you dont feel or admit that the sacrifice first starts in Haiti. Crossing the border is not going to change the problems in Haiti, working in Haiti is the solution you should be after. Afterall the dominican state is not responsible for the political, environmental, population explosion and the many other ill's afflicting Haiti. I want to hear another tone from haitian posters instead of the defeated syndrome that haitians seem to suffer from, i want to hear that you want change, instead of emigrating illegally to D.R. The solutions are in Haiti not in Dominican Republic, here you will get one thing marginalization and you know what that means already. "A MAN NEEDS TO FEED HIS FAMILY FIRST BEFORE HE COULD LEND A HAND." Maybe you should go to Haiti and take a f*cking survey. Haitian posters here are not migrating to DR and I'm sure neither are their family members. You have a good fight and cause, but the wrong approach and arena. Incidentally, what exactly are the problems that YOU are fixing in the DR? I know personally that I've fixed the problems of some of your illegals here in the US. You talk all this sh*t but never in a million years would you work for CESFRONT. The problems do start in Haiti and fixing them are Haiti's job, but, tell starving and desperate people that they have to help fix a situation that's wayyy above their means and might. YOU all should petition your government to deport illegals and stop allowing people to give them jobs. End of story. Period. Anything else is Hot-air. Haiti will never get on her feet alone. NEVER. NEVER. If you call that a defeatist mindset, you truly do not understand the gravity of the situation. It's been interesting. My internet experience has perhaps ruined my love for the DR and the people I used to call "primo/prima". Keep spreading your hate for it will surely come back to you. I fail to see the hate you point out on arkatype's post. All his saying YOU should get off your ass and start doing something for YOUR country. Have you been reading Arky post lately, I do not disagree with what arky said, however how do you take him seriously when most of his posting are blatantly anti Haitian Well, it may be a response to the blatantly anti-dominican post your fellow compatriots seem to enjoy so much. That's what I love about arguin' with Haitians, the answers are right on their faces but they seem to doge the facts like a flyweight boxer. Antonio, THE DR DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ABSORB HAITI'S PROBLEMS, period!. Edited on 12/18/2008 8:24 AM by HonestAbe. |
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| #34 - Posted 18 December 2008, 8:25 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies It doesn't help the fact that the dominican elite is in league with the haitian one in the exploitation of that population, nor the fact that the dominican populace, due to survival and the effects of colonialism, couldn't care less about the fate of its counterpart of the western side. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #35 - Posted 18 December 2008, 9:40 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1313 Posts: 304 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: Lautaro previously said: It doesn't help the fact that the dominican elite is in league with the haitian one in the exploitation of that population, nor the fact that the dominican populace, due to survival and the effects of colonialism, couldn't care less about the fate of its counterpart of the western side. About time you come to your senses LAU he finally say something that makes sense Keep it up. I 1000% agree with that statement above. |
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| #36 - Posted 18 December 2008, 10:09 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: It doesn't help the fact that the dominican elite is in league with the haitian one in the exploitation of that population, nor the fact that the dominican populace, due to survival and the effects of colonialism, couldn't care less about the fate of its counterpart of the western side. About time you come to your senses LAU he finally say something that makes sense Keep it up. I 1000% agree with that statement above. Have you seen the movie "Dangerous Liaisons" (the one with John Malkovich)? I can't help being reminded of it everytime I see the way the elites of this island carry themselves. It's just downright disheartening. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #37 - Posted 18 December 2008, 11:43 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 390 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Every time I try to get out, they pull me back in. HONESTABE, My man, you don't have to agree with anything I write, however, do not link me with any Haitian posters spewing nonsense. I stand on my own as a man. I respect myself and do not get involved in BS. I"ve helped more Dominicans and Haitians than a whole lot of you. If you'd challenged my post, we could have had a conversation (the purpose of this board). Instead you take the side of a man who appears to be vile and without a mother. That says a lot about you. Where did you ever read me blaming the Dominican Republic and people for Haiti's inflictions? Did you read the post? The country is finished, finished. Unless you have some brilliant ideas, what is it that you didn't get? My views. Well, I'll make this my last posts. I feel sorry for a lot of you all. Lautaro, Dreadlocks, Tonio, Cibaeno, Ladronoso. Much respect. DREADLOCKS, I may find the heart to go back to DR, as I have many people that I care about over there. Hit me with a private message and an e-mail if you wish. CIBAENO, since we're both Brooklynites, hit me up also. Your e-mail address is jumbled-up with thousands of unread mail. Edited on 12/18/2008 12:19 PM by kmnupe. |
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| #38 - Posted 18 December 2008, 11:55 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 390 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: HonestAbe previously said: Since you made it YOUR business. There was nothing wrong with his post excluding the usual gratiutous condescension.I fail to see the hate you point out on arkatype's post. All his saying YOU should get off your ass and start doing something for YOUR country. I should get off my ass? YOU don't know anything about me partner? What's your contribution to this great universe? your country? your family? Worry about yourself. The world was f*cked-up before me and it will be so after. So far, I've done my part to make it better, have you? I'm (WE are) no more responsible for Haiti's misery than I am for India's, Somalia's etc... I happen to find kinship with anyone and everyone no matter where they're born. In essence, I am my brother's keeper and I'll do my best for Haitians, Dominicans, Jamaicans. Black, Red, White, Blue. Some of you probably couldn't understand that. Edited on 12/18/2008 12:04 PM by kmnupe. |
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| #39 - Posted 18 December 2008, 12:22 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: June 2008 Member #: 887 Posts: 1577 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Kmnupe, I am really sorry because your Internet experience “has perhaps ruined [your] love for the DR”. We have no interest at all in wining a popularity contest but we passionately appreciate people loving us. For me, you are a very interesting person and even with our differences I like this interaction with a person from the other side (with the kind of person that you are). If in this island we are going together to someplace is talking with persons like you that we are going to get over there. Think about it again. You can learn from this Internet experience these truths: 1) Some frustrated Haitians that can not stand what we have done in the Eastern part of our island like (actually they enjoy themselves) to attack us and we can not avoid answering back, usually as roughly as we are being attacked. (We ever, absolutely ever are going to be more inclined to throw in the glove than the towel. That is part of our genetic code.) 2) All the measures that we can take in this part of our island are not going to resolve the serious problems you can find in Haiti. (Of course you are right, we have a hard work to do about some important matters that are affecting your people but the most wonderful results for our efforts in our part are not going to mean a decisive change in the turbulent Haitian life.) 3) You can be certain there is a future for us, Dominicans and Haitians. (We are only telling you that bright common future starts in Haiti not in Dominican Republic. We can not live in harmony with the present Haiti’s situation.) 4) Dominicans do not hate Haiti and Haitians and we gladly would like to participate in a common effort with the international community for helping Haiti to resolve its problems but we are not going to assume that responsibility alone because is completely out of our possibilities. And you can learn this truth too: we, Dominicans, are very reasonable people and you can try to sustain you points with persons that can use their reason capability to find out right solutions. We respect your literature, your folklore, your believes and we want a flourishing Haiti with the natural consequences: prosperous commerce between us, cultural exchanges and a better quality life in our common ship: our island. The dark side is this one (and I say it again): if a Haitian wants a fight positively he or she is going to find one. The day Haitians start to stop provoking us will be the first day of our best common future. It is as simple as that. |
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| #40 - Posted 18 December 2008, 12:46 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2578 | RE: Haitian Cannibalism & other anomolies Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: Dominicanation previously said: Quote: Lautaro previously said: It doesn't help the fact that the dominican elite is in league with the haitian one in the exploitation of that population, nor the fact that the dominican populace, due to survival and the effects of colonialism, couldn't care less about the fate of its counterpart of the western side. About time you come to your senses LAU he finally say something that makes sense Keep it up. I 1000% agree with that statement above. Have you seen the movie "Dangerous Liaisons" (the one with John Malkovich)? I can't help being reminded of it everytime I see the way the elites of this island carry themselves. It's just downright disheartening. Kmnupe obviously you are having a bad day, it will be sad if you stop posting I have enjoyed reading you over the year, you probably have the most balance opinion. I hope that you will reconsider just like Cibi did. It will be disingenuous in your part to believe the Franco and Carlos does not exist on both side. Your action will send the wrong signal..... We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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