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#81 - Posted 21 December 2008, 9:57 PM
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Kmnupe, I welcome the opportunity to converse too, and I hope this can be a very wide door to friendship. (It would be a pleasure for me).

By the way, can you or some other Haitian open one topic writing about important Haiti’s news? Is it possible to have “special” news from your “sweet little country” from the Haitians in this forum?

Who are the good guys and why? Who are the bad guys and why? What is working right and what is out of work? What you can use and what is absolutely useless?

Is it possible to know what is doing your people, why are they doing what they are doing and how we can help if we want to?

We need to know a lot about what actually is happing in Haiti. We have our sources, of course, but it could be interesting to read about it from a person directly attached to the situation.

As far as attached to the situation, I live in NYC.

I get a lot of my news from radio programs, my family living there and uncle in DR. I'm not sure what sources you have, but, there's seldom good news. For instance, some donations to hurricane victims were stolen. People work hard and go about their lives with laughter, music, family like anywhere else.

We need an overhaul of government. We need the Diaspora who misses the country and are sick of regression. The Haitian people are captives, plain and simple under a so-called democracy. Have and have-nots in the true sense of the word.

Haitixchange.com is a good source for english speakers. I 've met the brother running it and he does a good job.
Edited on 12/21/2008 10:04 PM by kmnupe.

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#82 - Posted 21 December 2008, 10:14 PM
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kmnupe, this is a message for me from a close friend. He is complaining about a usual Haitian position: never talking about their inside situation. It is dated November 29, 2006:

“They will dare the Haitians in the Dominican Forums to speak by name and situations in their ‘country’ or will be that ‘country’ in a situation such that everybody have an immense fear (true terror) to that someone cause him or her a very bad moment for that reason (for example, they can cut them the head)?

I, as Dominican, can speak by name and situations related to irregularities in the march of our national life. I can speak that Ramón Baéz Figueroa has problems with the Dominican justice by the problems generated by the fall of the Intercontinental Bank and that Luis Álvarez Rents has problems for the same motive. I can speak that Quirino Paulino Castillo has problems with the Dominican justice because he is linked to one of the largest cargos of drugs that has been captured in our country and I can speak that Florían Féliz (imprisoned in our jails) is supposed even today as one of the bosses of the drug trafficking in the Dominican Republic. I can speak that Luis Inchaustegui has legal problems (the PEME case, a governmental program of most minimum employment) and of that Pedro Franco Badía is being processed for problems that were detected in the Plan RENOVE, a state plan for the renovation of the vehicles of the public transportation in the Dominican Republic. The Group Vicini is extremely linked to the Haitian problem by being that business group one of the ones that utilizes the Haitian illegal labor in the conditions that have permitted that the image of the Dominican Republic be extremely distorted and seriously injured by organizations interested in doing it. The day that that group be investigated deeply is very possible that it can be found there a lot of what has placed us in an unpleasant position with respect to the treat due to all the people that be in our territory (the nationals of the Western part of the island included).

Can a Haitian talk about Haiti’s situation in this way?”

This message could be written this morning. Haitians have to talk.


Put it this way, people talk about politics more readily than before. Don't forget that "democracy" is relatively new. The Duvalier legacy was almost 30 yrs. That's years of corrupted minds, abuse and so forth.

In a country such as ours, you have no idea who's a former macoute, ex-soldier. Some of them hold a grudge. Some of my old school buddies would tell me about the days in the DR when you had to watch what you say. Our time is just prolongated, that's all.
Edited on 12/22/2008 1:50 AM by kmnupe.

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#83 - Posted 23 December 2008, 10:17 PM
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Why do you feel that you are so much better than haitians. You should try to help and stop judging them. because a lot of countries look down on dominicans. and they believe your poor, uneducated, criminals. when I went to visit DR people was warning me how you'll rob people in the airports and on the streets, how the people and kids will ask for the clothes off your back. puerto ricans especially feel that you'll are poor and dangerous people.
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Why do you feel that you are so much better than haitians. You should try to help and stop judging them. because a lot of countries look down on dominicans. and they believe your poor, uneducated, criminals. when I went to visit DR people was warning me how you'll rob people in the airports and on the streets, how the people and kids will ask for the clothes off your back. puerto ricans especially feel that you'll are poor and dangerous people.

Arkatype, Said I feel the same way about puerco bichos you're lazy and love dope, 95% are career tecatos junkies so who cares what you think P.R. this is not you're turf so i suggest you stay out in the sidelines. This is none of your concern, remember fool you've been a colony since day one chump!!!!!
Edited on 12/23/2008 10:42 PM by arkatype.
You are the light of truth ARKATYPE
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#85 - Posted 23 December 2008, 10:43 PM
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Haitians as usual.....
You are the light of truth ARKATYPE
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Kmnupe, I really appreciate your posts (all of them) and you must know that by now, but it is extremely confusing to see all your good intentions, your faith in our common future if we both are as reasonable as our situation demands and later finding the real situation in Haiti.

To be against Dominicans is a political asset in Haiti today as it was in Aristide’s times and you can be sure that marching by this way Haiti is going to be the big looser.


Haiti’s Senator sees Préval disinterested in nexuses with DR.
by José Miguel Montero
El Nacional

A Haitian senator affirmed today that president René Préval does not have interest in fortifying the relations of his country with Dominican Republic, attitude that said has harmed its compatriots, who have not been able to benefit from possible commercial and migratory agreements […] legislator Rudolph Boulos, of the Fusion Party […] affirmed that president Fernandez has proposed to Préval an endless number of agreements that would improve the commercial interchange and the migratory relations, but that the Haitian governor has not paid him the due attention to those offers. He assured that has prevented that thousands of resident Haitians in Dominican Republic acquire documents that allow them to live here legally. It detailed that about 15 thousand Haitians study in Dominican universities, more than 350 thousand in the construction and approximately half million develop agricultural workings, the majority without the due documentation. He emphasized that if the Government of Préval had interest in maintaining good relations with his neighbors he were working by migratory and commercial agreements that benefit both countries. He affirmed that situation harms so much to the Haitians in Dominican Republic as to the ones that are in their own country, and did not discard that the calamity situation that more and more is accentuated in Haiti brings about an increase of the arrival of undocumented Haitians to Dominican territory. Boulos considered that the position of Préval has its origin in the fact that he tries to reelect himself and that with that intention he wants to be elevated in "anti-Dominican" leader, with the […] idea that it would be a new ingredient that would help him to recover the Haitian people please.


We are not saints, my dear friend, and as that position grows up we are going to fire back.

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Kmnupe, I really appreciate your posts (all of them) and you must know that by now, but it is extremely confusing to see all your good intentions, your faith in our common future if we both are as reasonable as our situation demands and later finding the real situation in Haiti.

To be against Dominicans is a political asset in Haiti today as it was in Aristide’s times and you can be sure that marching by this way Haiti is going to be the big looser.


Haiti’s Senator sees Préval disinterested in nexuses with DR.
by José Miguel Montero
El Nacional

A Haitian senator affirmed today that president René Préval does not have interest in fortifying the relations of his country with Dominican Republic, attitude that said has harmed its compatriots, who have not been able to benefit from possible commercial and migratory agreements […] legislator Rudolph Boulos, of the Fusion Party […] affirmed that president Fernandez has proposed to Préval an endless number of agreements that would improve the commercial interchange and the migratory relations, but that the Haitian governor has not paid him the due attention to those offers. He assured that has prevented that thousands of resident Haitians in Dominican Republic acquire documents that allow them to live here legally. It detailed that about 15 thousand Haitians study in Dominican universities, more than 350 thousand in the construction and approximately half million develop agricultural workings, the majority without the due documentation. He emphasized that if the Government of Préval had interest in maintaining good relations with his neighbors he were working by migratory and commercial agreements that benefit both countries. He affirmed that situation harms so much to the Haitians in Dominican Republic as to the ones that are in their own country, and did not discard that the calamity situation that more and more is accentuated in Haiti brings about an increase of the arrival of undocumented Haitians to Dominican territory. Boulos considered that the position of Préval has its origin in the fact that he tries to reelect himself and that with that intention he wants to be elevated in "anti-Dominican" leader, with the […] idea that it would be a new ingredient that would help him to recover the Haitian people please.


We are not saints, my dear friend, and as that position grows up we are going to fire back.



Do not believe on everything that you read please some research my brother, we Dominicans are good people, we are the only nation in recorded world history to be liberated then get re-enslaved by the colonizer, we are living a lie.
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Kmnupe, I really appreciate your posts (all of them) and you must know that by now, but it is extremely confusing to see all your good intentions, your faith in our common future if we both are as reasonable as our situation demands and later finding the real situation in Haiti.

To be against Dominicans is a political asset in Haiti today as it was in Aristide’s times and you can be sure that marching by this way Haiti is going to be the big looser.


Haiti’s Senator sees Préval disinterested in nexuses with DR.
by José Miguel Montero
El Nacional

A Haitian senator affirmed today that president René Préval does not have interest in fortifying the relations of his country with Dominican Republic, attitude that said has harmed its compatriots, who have not been able to benefit from possible commercial and migratory agreements […] legislator Rudolph Boulos, of the Fusion Party […] affirmed that president Fernandez has proposed to Préval an endless number of agreements that would improve the commercial interchange and the migratory relations, but that the Haitian governor has not paid him the due attention to those offers. He assured that has prevented that thousands of resident Haitians in Dominican Republic acquire documents that allow them to live here legally. It detailed that about 15 thousand Haitians study in Dominican universities, more than 350 thousand in the construction and approximately half million develop agricultural workings, the majority without the due documentation. He emphasized that if the Government of Préval had interest in maintaining good relations with his neighbors he were working by migratory and commercial agreements that benefit both countries. He affirmed that situation harms so much to the Haitians in Dominican Republic as to the ones that are in their own country, and did not discard that the calamity situation that more and more is accentuated in Haiti brings about an increase of the arrival of undocumented Haitians to Dominican territory. Boulos considered that the position of Préval has its origin in the fact that he tries to reelect himself and that with that intention he wants to be elevated in "anti-Dominican" leader, with the […] idea that it would be a new ingredient that would help him to recover the Haitian people please.


We are not saints, my dear friend, and as that position grows up we are going to fire back.


Moreno1, Said
Do not believe on everything that you read please some research my brother, we Dominicans are good people, we are the only nation in recorded world history to be liberated then get re-enslaved by the colonizer, we are living a lie.

LightOfTruth, Said Moreno1 slavery was never reinstated when the country became annexed to Spain. The reason for that decision came because of the many incursions from haiti's military in the country, when the Dominican Republic was vastly outnumbered by Haiti's larger population.
Edited on 12/26/2008 3:33 PM by LightOfTruth.
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#90 - Posted 26 December 2008, 4:08 PM
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“Do not believe on everything that you read please [do] some research my brother”
Moreno1.

I do not understand your statement, Moreno1. If you read my posts you are going to see a person that use to be well informed.
I am not listening to a common person, I am listening to a senator (specifically a Haitian senator) and I suppose that even in Haiti a senator is not a simple piece of garbage.
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