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#11 - Posted 24 February 2009, 5:18 PM
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Just out of curiosity and just to get a grasp of just how racist are Dominicans, can anyone here do a compare/contrast with another country/ethnic group?
For example, are they more racist than Brazilians? Colombians? Haitians? SouthAfricans?
I'm not trying to be funny with this, I just want to see what type of measuring stick sort of speak is being used. I read an article where some Dominican lady of Afrodescendancy who wore her hair naturally was called ugly by many and she concluded it was because of racism, but she really was ugly and the hairdo just made it worse. As opposed to other good looking Dominican ladies of Afrodescendancy who also wore their hair naturally but looked good and were thought of as fashionable and pretty. Many Dominicans here in the USA consider Polish people ugly as hell with hygeine problems and Polacks are as white as they come. Is this really racism?



Well, based on my observation of the above groups, brazilians are the more similar with us, in the sense that their racism is more class and looks based than anything else. On the haitians part, their racism is based more on the fear of the white man that their forefathers have instilled in them, if you want an example of this, check the following article written by none other than Pierre Ruquoy, one of the priests that can't cease in their criticism of our country:

http://espacinsular.org/spip.php?article7176

Here's the illustrative paragraph about that article:

"Hace más de 15 años, me tocó caminar por más de 24 horas en los montes de una región aislada de Haití. A la entrada de un pueblito, de repente, me encontré con un grupo de niños y niñas jugando a la sombra de una matas de mango. Al verme, se pusieron a vociferar y a correr como unos endemoniados. Unos minutos más tarde, los árboles estaban cubiertos de unos mangos grandotes; todos los niños estaban arrimados sobre las ramas más altas de las matas y decenas de ojitos me fijaban con horror: “¡Es el diablo!... ¡Vete de aquí, diablo! ¡Vete!” Era la primera vez que estos niños haitianos veían a un blanco y sus padres les habían enseñado que el Diablo es blanco."

Hope that this helps on your question.



Edited on 2/24/2009 5:24 PM by Lautaro.
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#12 - Posted 24 February 2009, 7:43 PM
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Black American lived there for three yrs. agree with you wholeheartly.However just like the rest of the world so long as you have $$$$$$ everyone treats you cool even, if they are faking it.

Wellllllll, not so fast.

In the DR, most poor people will kiss rich black people's ass even if faking it.

But most "Elite" will not.

Furthermore, no "Elite" will ever admit a black person is better off than them, even if they know they are.
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#13 - Posted 24 February 2009, 8:14 PM
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and, Tupapaupa, i am sure that there are people like Gizmo who hold to the belief that the term "elite" does not apply to black Dominicans, regardless of their financial and educational stature.
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#14 - Posted 24 February 2009, 8:33 PM
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TuPapaupa, people that conduct your type of analysis are exactly the problem and the reason why
we get such a bad rep. regarding this issue. You decided to interview one person, from one small campo in DR, generalize, and then call it a day. I think you owe us an apology.

The bad rep. DR has gotten regarding race has not come since Trujillo's time, since everyone knows that his massacre was something very personal, it has come since the "NGO's" that claim to be defending Haitian immigrants in DR started disseminating this propaganda. They are very aware that their agenda is malicious and can do nothing else but play the race card. They have to lump all dark Dominicans into their bullshit "cause" because otherwise it be too obvious that they are trying to force DR to carry a burden that doesn't belong to them.

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This past Sunday, while talking to my childhood friend, a Dominican from Jaracacoa, whom I met in Junior High School in Brooklyn, back in the 70's, I realized how blind some Dominicans are regarding racism among Dominicans in the DR.

It immediately reminded me of the exchange Dreadlock, Gizmo, others and myself are having on a thread here.

My friend's wife, an stunnning beauty from Janico (white, green eyes and blond) tried to debate the fact that there's no such thing as racism in the DR.

No matter how many examples we gave her, she didn't want to see it.

Funny that as soon as I asked her, "who will get a job at a bank faster, you or a black person?", all of a sudden she didn't want to talk about it anymore.

Am I the only Dominican who feels that some Dominicans in the DR are as racists as they come?.

Am I the only one who sees something that's everywhere?.


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#15 - Posted 24 February 2009, 8:44 PM
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@ DominicanChic,

You are correct. I challenge anyone here who hasn't noticed how many NGO's simplistically reduce the illegal Haitian immigration problem to it being a matter of 'race'. The race card gets alot more attention I guess. The other tactic is they try to connect the Haitian issue with black Dominicans, the evil Dominican government and light skinned Dominicans targeting Haitians and black Domincans (who for some reason they veiw as connected in 'blackness').

Anyways, don't mean to change the subject. Back to racism in DR.
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#16 - Posted 24 February 2009, 9:38 PM
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What's your point? Money does not mean you are better off than anyone.No one cares if they admit who is better off.
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#17 - Posted 24 February 2009, 9:49 PM
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and, Tupapaupa, i am sure that there are people like Gizmo who hold to the belief that the term "elite" does not apply to black Dominicans, regardless of their financial and educational stature.

I have some black Dominican friends, in the DR, who are 100% more "Elite" than many "Elites", if you know what I mean.


Edited on 2/24/2009 9:49 PM by TuPapaupa.
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#18 - Posted 24 February 2009, 9:53 PM
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Who gives a a f%*$.
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#19 - Posted 24 February 2009, 9:54 PM
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Gizmo TuPapaUpa racism exist everywhere in the face of the earth, so this thread is useless.
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#20 - Posted 24 February 2009, 10:06 PM
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TuPapaUpa
I have some black Dominican friends, in the DR, who are 100% more "Elite" than many "Elites", if you know what I mean.


Gizmo
Yeah right!!!!! Can you stop embaressing yourself, and on the process can you stop embaressing a whole country.
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