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#21 - Posted 10 April 2009, 6:49 PM
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HOW FAR HAVE U BEEN TO SCHOOL GIZMO. AS I SAID EARLIER DUMBNESS IS NOT GENETIC IN DOMINICANS. U HAVE BEEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO CROSSTHE SHARK INFESTED WATERS TO LAND IN USA VIA PORTO-RICO, U CAN TRY TO READ IF SCHOOL IS TOO MUCH A BURDEN FOR U. HAVE U READ MADAME BOVARY BY G.FAUBERT(IT IS IN ALL LANGUAGES). U FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF BOVARY IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THE NOVEL. WHAT AM SAYING....U READING. JA! JA! JA ! i DIDN'T NOT MEAN TO INSULT U WITH MY ADVICE. IF U R BORN POOR ,U CAN IMPROVE YOUR SITUATION BY LEARNING. HATING AND SPEWING NONSENSE WON'T LEAD U ANYWHERE.
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HOW FAR HAVE U BEEN TO SCHOOL GIZMO. AS I SAID EARLIER DUMBNESS IS NOT GENETIC IN DOMINICANS. U HAVE BEEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO CROSSTHE SHARK INFESTED WATERS TO LAND IN USA VIA PORTO-RICO, U CAN TRY TO READ IF SCHOOL IS TOO MUCH A BURDEN FOR U. HAVE U READ MADAME BOVARY BY G.FAUBERT(IT IS IN ALL LANGUAGES). U FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF BOVARY IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THE NOVEL. WHAT AM SAYING....U READING. JA! JA! JA ! i DIDN'T NOT MEAN TO INSULT U WITH MY ADVICE. IF U R BORN POOR ,U CAN IMPROVE YOUR SITUATION BY LEARNING. HATING AND SPEWING NONSENSE WON'T LEAD U ANYWHERE.
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GIZMO Poland's Carribean tragedy: A study of Polish legions in the Haitian war of independence 1802-1803 By: Jon Pachonski and Reuel K. Wilson REVIEWED BY BOB CORBETT: Heres an excerpt of this article, Thus when i ran across Pachonski's and Wilsons book POLAND'S CARIBBEAN TRAGEDY, i was thrilled to have a chance to get the story from the source as it were, well is that sort of slant is why one goes to this book it will be a huge disappointment. First of all one will have to be patient since they do adress this Old Haitian Myth but not until the second last chapter pages 307-317 is this tale discussed, and then for only ten pages at that. In short the story of the Poles as friends of Haiti and as settlers is Greatly Exaggerated to understate the case. However Pachonski and Wilson do adress the interesting question of how the myth grew, and they attribute it in great measure of being a creation of Jean Jacques Dessalines himself. On Pachonski and Wilson's view Dessaline was much taken by the fact that the Poles tended to treat the Haitians better than other Europeans and to have less regard for the French, the Poles did not want to be in Saint Domingue. With Dessaline's prodding, the Haitians tended to treat the poles much better when they captured them. On one Poles account this meant, that they killed them straight off rather then torturing them as they did the French. In sum there were about 5,200 Poles sent to Saint Domingue by Napoleon. More then 4,000 died primarily of yellow fever, some returned to France. Some were subsumed by the British colonial army, and only about 400 remained in Haiti and even 160 of those received permission from Dessalines in 1806 to return to France and even where sent there at Haiti's expense. Thus only 240 Poles actually remained and became Haitian citizens. Likewise the stories of Poles deserting the French for the Haitian cause are grossly exaggerated with only 120 to 150 Poles ever going to the Haitian cause and those are more likely to have done so, to save their own lives than as a matter of principle. http://www.websteruniv.edu/~corbetre/haiti/bookreviews/pachonski.htm
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GENEROSO
Haitians even stole the Taino name "Haiti" from the Tainos, and took it as their own. jajajajajajajaja.
They should have named their country instead DessalinesVille"

GIZMO You know that's one of those strange realities you call an Oxymoron. The Tainos or Arawaks were good stewards of the land and nature, and lived in harmony within the environment something that you can't apply to those that claim the name Aiyti or Haiti as it's referenced today. Haitians live in a country that's deforested, because the tyrannical Haitian goverments don't provide gas for cooking to the masses of people. So they resort to cutting down trees to create charcoal for cooking and even for energy.



The dominican took the name of " Quiskeya" in they national antem I cry for this ? Republica Del Haiti Espagnol not remember you something ?

VIVE SOULOUQUE ! VIVE TOUSSAINT ! VIVE JEAN JACQUES !


After just a little prodding the seemingly innocent and meek Haitian has lost his "coolness" and revealed his true feelings and admiration for the killer Dessalines, he is probably in a bacå trance state now dancing to the voo doo gods,
and spitting the blood of a dead cock mixed with cleren rum in a blood thirsty ritual.
Lower the volume of your war chants, you might be evicted by your neighbors.LOL.
Edited on 4/11/2009 12:35 AM by generoso.
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What a monster Dessalines was ! How dared he! He didn't know that killing white folks was a sacrilege. General Rochambeau was rendering those blacks a service by letting being devoured by ferocious dogs. And the French were so nice to their slaves. Torturing them at will, wipping them burning them, disposing of them as cattle! What a way to show gratitude ! May he continue to burn in hell !
Wasn't Aristotle right when he wrote that there is group of people that are fit for slavery ? It seems that after so many centuries the mentality still persists.


Please do not make a show off literary knowledge if you can't substantiate, when and where did Aristotle say that?
Maybe Aristotle Haitianne said it when he visited Haiti, but not in Greece.
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HOW FAR HAVE U BEEN TO SCHOOL GIZMO. AS I SAID EARLIER DUMBNESS IS NOT GENETIC IN DOMINICANS. U HAVE BEEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO CROSSTHE SHARK INFESTED WATERS TO LAND IN USA VIA PORTO-RICO, U CAN TRY TO READ IF SCHOOL IS TOO MUCH A BURDEN FOR U. HAVE U READ MADAME BOVARY BY G.FAUBERT(IT IS IN ALL LANGUAGES). U FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF BOVARY IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THE NOVEL. WHAT AM SAYING....U READING. JA! JA! JA ! i DIDN'T NOT MEAN TO INSULT U WITH MY ADVICE. IF U R BORN POOR ,U CAN IMPROVE YOUR SITUATION BY LEARNING. HATING AND SPEWING NONSENSE WON'T LEAD U ANYWHERE.


You got as far as the introduction of the novel? Bravo, bravo. Your attempts to display cultural superiority are just a front to hide your inferiority feelings.

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#27 - Posted 11 April 2009, 6:55 AM
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gizmo,
indeed ! that's why my first comment were deleted from dominicantoday. I didn't know that whites were so sacred to you. you r dreaming of your past days in slavery. Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the good old times when we were salves, the white masters were goog to us. slapping us a little bit, whipping our butts from time to time, spitting in our food, ah! did they taste goo after. ohhhhhhhhhhhh! white spit!!!!!!!!!!!please come back white masters, be it spain, france or whatever!!!!!!!. Again, this comment won't last long. You bet.
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#28 - Posted 11 April 2009, 7:00 AM
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generoso,
At least I did make an effort !. Would you from now
and then do the same. For every book, your horizons will be broadened and your train of toughts will change. Come on! A little effort. Try to get out of Ignorance. Unless you r outright an imbecile>Which is a disease.
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generoso,
At least I did make an effort !. Would you from now
and then do the same. For every book, your horizons will be broadened and your train of toughts will change. Come on! A little effort. Try to get out of Ignorance. Unless you r outright an imbecile>Which is a disease.



Hello where did you get the quote about Aristotle, not from Dessalines as he was illiterate. LOL.
Maybe from professor Monsieur Aristotle Pie from Malpasse, not the Greek one. LOL.
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#30 - Posted 11 April 2009, 10:24 AM
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generoso,
bravo! you r not tha bad! at least you know aristotle was greek.
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