jimi harrington will tell us about the hero general Imbert

Does anyone have any further information about this...juanb, anybody?

Well GC, that "hero" of yours ruined his family's good name by siding with the oligarchic forces of San Isidro and the US Marines during the 1965 uprising against the oligarch triunvirate then governig the country, in which he led the death squads that sowed terror and misery into the northern barrios of Santo Domingo. You'll have to excuse me, but your "hero" is nothing better than a turncoat and a butcher to me!!

not my hero ....Harrington will tell us the rest of the story

Are you also one of the people who thinks that Harrington = Josean? LOL

my position on Latin American military parasites is well known.....they are generally a political instrument and only serve the purpose off propping up the despot du jour

not a chance Josean often showed wit and intelligence ........jimi conceals these two things with great skill

we need him back that way we will only have one person stealing from the dominican people instead of every polictitians

http://www.normangall.com/dominicanr_art2.htm

The assassination of the Dominican Republic’s Rafael L. Trujillo was carried out with assistance from the US Central Intelligence Agency. Arms for the May 30, 1961. slaying of the 69-year-old dictator on a lonely stretch of highway near his capital were smuggled by the CIA into the country at the request of the assassins, according to highly qualified sources I interviewed in Santo Domingo shortly after the collapse of the Trujillo rule.

http://www.normangall.com/dominicanr_art2.htm
The arms had to come from the outside, I was told, because of the close scrutiny imposed by Trujillo on the removal of guns from military bases. These controls kept the conspirators from obtaining their own weapons without awakening suspicion, despite the involvement in the plot of the Secretary of State for the Armed Forces, Gen. Jose Rene Roman Fernandez, and other leading military officers.

bernie you would be the first person he would put behind bars....so be careful what you wish for

Freedom,
very interesting, thank you!

So You "interviewed...", dumb question: are you/were you a reporter?

cut and paste rafi

these Trujillo freaks are like nazi memorobilia collectors....that means they find the brand of his underwear for example fascinating or anything else.....they are just into nostalgia.....get over it he is dead....this is the only day of the year everybody does it.....just remember if he had retired 5 years before they killed him he would still be a hero in the DR....he stayed to long at the ball

As soon as I get off work I'm going to have a beer to celebrate yet another anniversay of the goat's death..
If anyone is interested:
La Libreria Caliope Invita a "Trujillo en Santiago y destrujillizacion de la ciudad". Dos noches de imágenes, fotos, testimonios, música y otras memorias inéditas de la dictadura cruel y ensangrentada
Facilitador: Isaias Amaro
Jueves 29 y viernes 30 de mayo-8:00 PM, Sala Chico Gonzalez de la Libreria Caliope 170 Dyckman Street, NYC

In all probability I will be there....

ciby go sit in the 58 Olds chase car at Camp David.......cool.....the 57 chevy is lost

"the 57 chevy is lost"

I heard rumors that some "chofer" got a hold of it and used it to "conchar" for several years after the fact...don't know how much truth there is to that one...

Mataron el chivo en la carretera, Mataron el chivo en la carretera..lolol...I love it:)

Trujillo, I hope Satan himself has a pitchfork to your left butt cheek while you're tied helplessly on a spit like the pig that you were in life..compliments of Juan F. German Valerio aka cibaeño75:)

there is an exact copy of the 57 chevy next to the 58 Olds also and Old bullet proof Caddy that belonged to El Jefe

Some time back, I saw on Santo Domingo Invita, a long running show on a local Telemundo network, an interview with the guy who has the cars, are you sure the 57, Chevy is a stand in?

well I was told this by the people who own the 58 Olds although it looks identical down to the air horns ....they say the original was used as a taxi and then scrapped ...what a piece of history

Why I asked was from the original photos I had seen, the Chevy was pretty well Swiss-Cheesed up (and quite bloody inside) I imagine.

These people really wanted a communist country, not to "save" us from the "monster". They had no real idea of leadership, thus the improvised project of a nation. Trujillo had his bad side, but you can't deny the good. He created the dominican currency (peso), the national police, the army, the air force, paid off the national debt, there was an increasing middle class, order (out of fear some say, well...DUH!), etc. Sorry, but with the bias, it's only fair. Trujillo's ego was his worst enemy. Also, he was a dumb ass for not retiring and passing the torch, like People's Republic of China wisely does.

wise words El Jefe

Yes.. it's true Trujillo did do alot of good.

GC, can you admit tat Castro did allot of good to your native Cuba.

chill I have often made the comparison of El Caudillo Franco and Castro in that during the era of Franco Spain was repressed and suffered from poverty and isolation but Franco did something important.....he held together a very complex and diverse country that would have splintered apart without him {he never stole a penny] he trained Juan Carlos to lead Spain back to democracy and Spain was a better place because of him ..in spite of the excesses and repression that took place under him....Spain would not be what it is today without him.....that said .... now Fidel let us hope that the best of his horrible repressive regime will survive and blossom then flower into a better Cuba his health and education programs are to be admired ...but at what cost to freedom of thought and speech and the loss of human rights...but this all is in the future and Cubas future is a bright one

Ok I usually question the articles they have on this site because it is very bias. Which newspapers are not suppose to be, but what can I say its buisness all they care about is making money and not the quality of journalism. Like not putting the names of the journalists at the end of every article. But anyway, in defense not only to Trujillo (yes, I know he is a bad man but we gotta think about the other people) but the other gentlemen that served in the National Police at the same time Trujillo did, does not make them traitors for "servicing" the U.S. One, at the time there were very few jobs, and this was a source of income for those men. Two, if anything it makes them patrotic because they were trained so that they can take care of their own countrymen. Thats what the police is for to protect and serve. Now what happened after the U.S. left and the raise of his regime is a different story. But to call all those men traitors is absurd,

And Trujillo yes had in someways kept some of the lower class backwards. But as bad as he was he still brung Dominican Republic to its peak of success during his regime, something this country hasnt even gotten close to again (i.e. debt free). We may all say this and that about the man, and without a doubt he is bad and he is so very dead. But we cant deny our past and say that he never did anything positive for the country. And its sad to say that it takes a person to rule with an iron fist to make sure their is progression. I guess thats why some people say democracy doesnt work in every nation. Not suggesting that we should have a dictator, but it shouldnt take one to make positive gains. Something for all of us to think about.

A young boy less than ten years old remembers the Trujillo's era. His father had a car which he used to take people to different places in D.R.. He had an uncle who was anti-Trujillo, him and his friend were bieng sought by Trujillo secret police cause they were the errand boys to the organizers against Trujillo. His uncle managed to get away cause his mother knew Trujillo's mother and thus she managed to get him out of the country and to the U.S. His friend didn't had such luck so he ended up in what was called the " Cuarenta " which was a prison were people that spoke politically about Trujillo were taken and torture. The boy grew up and he didn't understand why people were saying that Trujillo was an evil man, a Tyrent cause he remembers that as a child people all around him were happy, had plenty to eat, the "mercado" was clean and there was a lot of respect. Then he understood -- it was about " politics and political powers ". If you were into politics and challenging Trujillo's

Challenging Trujillo's politics than you had a big problem but if you were not into politics you had nothing to fear. His grandfather was in the military and whenenever he was on vacation he will take him to San Juan De La Maguana, were he seen adults and children such as himself having fun and living. His grandmother once told him that Trujillo said to all dominican that after he die not to be cowards. He said that in regards to the powers of the U.S. The boy remembers how the country became after Trujillo's death and it does not compares as to the many thousands of people who die on the hand of those who were supposed to be against "Tyranny". The Balaguer first 12 years are worst than all the years of Trujillo. So how bad was Trujillo. This is a true story and there countless such as this and of course as stated before -- if your thing is politics than you won't agree even when witnesses will say different. The true can't be denied and who denies it is a hypocrite.

if El Jefe had resigned 5 years before his assassination there would be statues of him today....he stayed to long at the ball and he got taken out for Betancourt ,Galindez and the Mirabal sisters etc.

A Dictator don't wait over 30 years to built a statue of himself, though he name the the city santo domingo ( ciudad Trujillo ). Dominicans don't know the true about how much participations Trujillo had with the executions of some of his political rivals. Dominican historians and newspaper reporters as well as other forms of medias are not telling the facts but are saying hear-say by word of mouth to another mouth. Most are lying about that time and what true roles Trujillo played.

I said if he had resigned they would still be building statues ...we know what he did

know this, Trujillo had nothing to do with the killings of the Mirabal sisters. These are the words used by Trujillo upon learning about the Mirabal: " ahora diran que la mate ( now they will say that I killed them ) ". He said that to a group gathered around him, I had named some of them in an earlier comment. The true is that as far as the real killers of the Mirabal and the only so called surviver claiming to be a hero to the dominican people, this person is much worse than Trujillo. One of the problem is that were there are no evidence to proved who the real crimminals are, nothing can be done about it. So no one was brought to face justice and Trujillo didn't had the chance to bring the guilties ( as a way to present himself as a just leader and present a new image of himself ) to justice, his formed of justice. The secrets are being bury and the last one is claiming a Hero"s Medal... the dominicans new generations as well as the old have a right to the true.

"the dominicans new generations as well as the old have a right to the true."

So then say the truth as you see it and let the chips fall where they may..

So, hectorvargas..Trujillo was a saint and we should ask the pope to canonized him...El pobrecito, nunca mato, nunca violo, nunca torturo...Los Dominicanos somos unos mal agradecidos....

Rafael Leonidas Trujillo el benefactor de la patria!!!!!