Hey the PLD and "Lie-onel" Fernandez have to pay for the METRO someway!

That’s a lot of stupid people.
Dream= Voluntary tax

....the local media ABC Channel 7 in NYC reports that a valid DNI member id was found in posession of one of those arrested..

I guess I'm a bit confused and/or maybe even ignorant on this sort of thing... were they busted because they were selling DR lottery tickets in US? Is this illegal?

The County Prosecuter's Office in this case acted like a Mafia. Its no an illegal operation-per-say. Its just that the Bodega owner(s) did not file for a permit to sell an international lottery and at the same time pay their Mafia in the formed of taxes. This is something that really upsets them, especially knowing that they paid the winners who in turn did'nt paid their Mafias in the formed of taxes.

Yes it is illegal if you do not file for proper licensing and permits or receive authorization to sell material or to allow the use of gambling equipment in establishments then it is illegal. I'm quite sure their exist city state statutes governing and regulating the sale of lottery ticket or the use of gambling equipment or material( games of chance). In addition the fact that there exist laws prohibiting illegal gambling justifies the assumption that these tickets were sold with the intention to evade fees, fines and taxes. In essence the store owners are benefiting from thousands of dollars of tax free revenue. This wouldn't be so bad if they were spending the profits on charitable goals in the DR or their communities.

Pleaseeeee........they have been selling numbers in NYC for the past 40 + years in the Bodegas every latino knows that.

This system was never legal or will it ever be legal in the US. Forget about legalizing it....there is no avenue that exists for this type of game to become legal.

A lot of free time in the D.A.'s office I guess, as others have said the selling of lottery tickets from other countries is nothing new in NYC, not only from the D.R.

At 200 large at week, these 18 lumpens had a good thing going until they got caught.

Propably a greedy rat fingered them for a fee from the laws. OR the Dominicans refuse to promote corruption and give the laws their cut of the 200 large.

Now, the lumpens got real big problems -- illegal gambling, money laundering, mail fraud, wire fraud, tax evasion, RICO charge, and on and on.

Unless they get on their knees and grovel in NY-NJ courts and swear to defend Israel with their lives, these lumpens could do as many as 40 or 50 years.

Perhaps, the Santo domingo "money laundering side" of the operation will walk comfortably and spend freely even though their associates on the USA side have problems with the laws.

And probably drugs also !!!!!

"And probably drugs also !!!!!"

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Yeah, drugs always somehow find their way into the picture, even if it's only that the largely "straight" guys needs something to calm their cowardly nerves.

Dutch Schultz used numbers' fronts ... which were independently profitable ... to give cover for his more lucative drug operations, but nowadays crooks are too stupid to do what Schultz did .

well how is trillonario legal? i better stop call my friends in others state and telling them play numbers for me dammmmmmmm. ny just wants all the money. you couldn't pay me to live in that state.

DO you think those Bodegas are also stealing the electricity.....its cultural

Raulm: the arrests weere made in New Jersey not New York...please read the article b4 commenting.

Let's be real; ppl will always gamble, at least with these numbers the money stays amongst Dominicans. Within weeks the same stores will be back to biz as usual.

It seems to me that the main problem was that they did not get permits to seel the tickets, this is another way of saying they did not register so that the Tax collectors could not get their cut.

You area all forgetting that old saw of "if you do the crime, you'll do the time"!!

Illegal is illegal, no mater if it is evasion of local, state and federal taxes, stealing the kid's candy, J-walking, or whatever. All this rhetoric to the contrary is just hogwash.
make up your mind to obey the law, quit rationalizing anddefending the offenders andget on with your lives.

TB

Sometimes, you got look at the internal or external class struggles of the bourgeoisie and between the bourgeoisie and the lumpen.

In NY, Gtech [the Sicilian lumpens took it over from US bourgeois elements in 2006] runs the numbers.

In NJ, Gtech also runs the numbers.

Now, Gtech is trying to take over the numbers in the DR.

Gtech already runs most of the numbers games in the Caribbean and Central America, dominating about 20 national lotteries.

In the DR, the national lottery is run by a some private company that enjoys an exclusive concession to supply electronic lottery services in the DR.

The question: Did this private company in DR rat out, finger, and set-up the 18 lumpens to Gtech or to the US cops? If so, the arrested lumpens in the USA may have perjury problems coming down the pipeline.

The Cuban American crackpots in NY-NJ been running something called the "bolita" for decades.

They ain't no license to run them numbers.

I doubt there was any ratting...raids on these games are a regular occurrence.

Belial ....splat......noooooobody

"Belial ....splat......noooooobody"

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Slime, why are you trying to change the subject?

jeffreyb, dont matter, new york, new jersey, same people. wouldn't live there either if you COULD personally paid me. please learn how to spell before you respond to correct someone else, with your sarcastic remarks . it's were not weere.

That's Belial --- a fecal pile deposited by parents who forgot to use clean toilet paper. Definition for a dumb-a$$.

"That's Belial --- a fecal pile deposited "

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TB is another one of these stinking cappie degenerates, full of lies and, in his case, somewhat less offensive filth associated with pretense of privilege and reality of exploitation. Blessedly he is decomposing at a accelerated rate. When his rotting is complete, we will be fully justified in holding spirited celebration to mark the sanitary event.

Belial how old are you?

"Belial how old are you?"

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Very old in years ... indeed ancient ... but very young in character.

I enjoy sweeping the bourgeois trash back into the gutter where it originated.

Hey guys don t answer any of Belial s post,maybe He will go away,to live in aComunist COUNTRY.....Belial remind me of a Greek word. Skato.and it is not even in Cirilic.

I'm with you carbelk99.

Total ostracism for Belial, everyone.
That way the flies will blow him into non-existance.
He feeds off the discontent and hate that he represents.

Life is easy follow the rules.....i cant believe the drivel on this thread....no wonder Dominican Republic is such a hole......no one wants to pay taxes....well folks how do u think North American children go to public school? Free Lunch? Kids get free medical care (Child Health plus) in New York....How do u think the garbage gets picked up? The cops get paid....firemen come to your home during an emergency or fire.. well we all gotta contribute to the community in one way or another (by way of taxes or voluntary work) in the hopes that our children do better than we did as humans.

Raulm: i was pointing out fact....u have nt felt the witty wrath of my sarcaism.

jeffreyb, i was pointing out a fact. but yours was not a fact. you read and article again and if you can't, i will tell you. the arrest were (not weere) made in north Jersey, New York City and Westchester County. not you learn how to read, learn how to spell and especially before you start trying to correct others. if you can't handle it, don't dish it out. oh, i don't care (speaking lighty)about your witty wrath or sarcaism. who to you think your scaring. i can see that a child was responding to my comment and i have children of my own to raise and don't have time for someone else. therefore go back to school kid, put you lip in, get a life and stop responding. it is over.

Written by: jeffreyb, 6 May 2008 8:50 PM
From: United States
Raulm: i was pointing out fact....u have nt felt the witty wrath of my sarcaism.
Written by: jeffreyb, 6 May 2008 8:43 AM
From: United States
Raulm: the arrests weere made in New Jersey not New York...please read the article b4 commenting

gentlemen gentlemen please a little less bickering and a little more commentary.....por favor

Raulm:
I feel sorry for your kids..your grammer needs improvement. Just as well u keep out of New York and stay in whatever trailer park ur at.

Goule: sry. got carried away with some of the people on this thread....i just wish Dominican Today would edit some of these threads and weed out any not pertaining to the issue at hand.

actually, Belial, no amount of grovelling before the New Jersey courts is going to do these guys any good. they are going to get hit with wire fraud, mail fraud and rico, which means the feds are going to step up to the plate. it means that when they each get 25 year sentences, they will serve 25 years. the fed system is not big on the idea of parole.

"actually, Belial, no amount of grovelling before the New Jersey courts is going to do these guys any good. they are going to get hit with wire fraud, mail fraud and rico, which means the feds are going to step up to the plate. it means that when they each get 25 year sentences, they will serve 25 years. the fed system is not big on the idea of parole."

0000

I afraid you're right.

But if numbers is all that they really did, without the trumped up, incidental, and related charges, I don't believe these people are bad people, no more than the people who bought their tickets are bad people.

After all the winning odds in the 4 or 5 individual Dominican lottery games are better ... which isn't saying much ... than any game that Gtech administers in any one of the dozens of states in the USA where Gtech dominates the lotteries.

Gtech has a security department that operates on the level of the CIA or DOD, so if you're going to mess around with Gtech, watch out.

as you well know, Belial, gambling is illegal in the USA only when some folks do it. the big, connected boys set things up for themselves, then pay off the senators to declare gambling ILLEGAL. that is because they do not want competition.they are no different than the pharmaceutical industry. they do not have problems with people getting high on drugs; they just don´t wanting them getting high on something you can grow in your basement!

" feds are going to step up to the plate."

0000

Right.

This is not only interstate (in the US sense, NY and NJ), but also this is international (US and DR) which vests the FEDs with a kind of almost exclusive jurisdiction if they choose to exercise it.

Evidently, they chose not to exercise it.

So, in the operation against the Dominican number runners and Dominican numbers banks, NJ ... and soon NY ... are only fronting or whoring for the FEDs.

Gtech is likely dictating what the FEDs do.

no not whoring for the feds but enforcing the law....no payee taxes go to yale....In New York State the way the Lottery (Lotto) is supposed to work is that a percentage of the taxes is supposed to fund public schooling throughout the state.

"as you well know, Belial, gambling is illegal in the USA only when some folks do it. the big, connected boys set things up for themselves, then pay off the senators to declare gambling ILLEGAL. that is because they do not want competition.they are no different than the pharmaceutical industry..."

0000

A number of top Gtech executives, who average about $30 to $40 million in annual salaries, have been sent to prison in NY, NJ, TX, and in other states in the USA for corrupting government officials or being corrupted by government officials in the USA.

[You can google them. It's a long list.]

Gtech, as you say, has made it clear that "they do not want competition." And the uppity Dominicans were competing at $200 large per week.

When you're getting Gtech executive kind of money, you'll readily do 4 or 5 years of hard time and come out of the joint with variable sexual proclivities, but fixed for life financially.

and, Belial, when you have Gtech kind of money, you can fill many a briefcase with 100 dollar bills destined for the appropriate senators!

"no not whoring for the feds but enforcing the law....no payee taxes go to yale....In New York State the way the Lottery (Lotto) is supposed to work is that a percentage of the taxes is supposed to fund public schooling throughout the state."

0000

Yeah, the Dominicans didn't seem to understand that they would have been better off if they paid the city, state, and FEDs a cut of the gambling operation if the cut were presented as a tax.

Al Capone made the same mistake.

Today, if you're in the rackets in the USA, you're be OK if you pay about a third of the gross for the racket to the state.

belial ...splat .....who cares

tell me something new. it's now that the police are catching wind ... Like someone said b4 tis has been like this for years........I want to know who the fcuk snithced

jeffreyb, your a piece of work and the sad part about it you don't even know. sorry for going over your head with the coments you started. newspapers are written at a third grade level and i may have respond to you at a six grade level. don't blame me your your lack of education. you started this and was so wrong on your reply. now live with your mistakes and you keep with the subject at hand. oh, try to be nice, get some peace in your life and maybe, just maybe you will have some friends. ya! i will be the bigger man and not read or reply to you ever. jajajaja

Ralum: please read the article....people were arrested in New York by the Passaic County New Jersey prosecutors office.....that means New Jersey instigated the investigation and prosecution of this case....not New York....the people arrested (some of whom resided in New York) are now in jail in New Jersey...not New York.....

Dose anybody here have a job.......I'am getting tire of scrolling up & down on the screen. If you need to talk...................use the phone or messenger.

The news report is getting twisted in all directions........... Focus - Focus - Focus :)