Discrimination is wrong but this country has a long ways to go for a "womens rights movement"

The medical exam is not discrimination but protection from hiring woman already pregnant.

Doesn't matter if they lie on the application if they are pregnant their right to be pregnant can't be signed away. The employer is the one stuck with this burden.

Anyone who has employed Domincans without consulting with an attorney has found this out the hard way.

Jander,
I guess is hard to be a woman in DR!
I mean, could you imagine someone doing a physical everytime they were about to hire you for a job? (I am guessing you are a man!). :(
Its embarrassing to say the least, a woman's life is hard enough without the added bonus of discrimination and lack of opportunities due to the same fact..lets not even mention aging and looks which I read on the Listin Diario that is a main requirement for certain jobs!
Ahh, I even read in college that if you work in the factories you are over the hill at 25?
Whao... sad...

very sad

Discrimination hurts us all. We need to push for the protection and realization of human rights for all, with focus on historically-discriminated groups. We need to ask, why are there no more women, non-whites, gays, disabled, and so on, in certain privileged positions! We need to mainstream human rights discourse.

I just learned of a friend who works for a large transnational corp who told her boss she was pregnant, and then she was given new clients in the east, which required her to spend 3 days traveling. She had to quit. I told her that her boss may have violated her worker's rights.

These are the types of negative experiences we need to combat. Whether it's an institution who excludes women or blacks. We also need to refine the way we identify discrimination, b/c many of the ways that people are discriminated against are seemingly innocuous- e.g. companies recruiting & hiring only from certain private universities with low percentage of poor & non-white students!

baldoria23, great suggestion, can you get people to do a march and or protest to create enough attention to cause a change?
are you able to find support from someone of influence who could help you educate and enforce the laws!
Please let me know, its an important matter... :)

Definitely Dominican discrimmination is a killer. A movement is definitley necessary for gays, woman, blacks, disabled, social status etc. NYCDR a protest against discrimmination should be made!

"right of lactation."
LOL
What? Women aren't alowe to lactate?

The is a The Women's Action Research Center ?

Isn't that cute?

NYCDR,

I have seen want ad's here that say you must be between 18 to 25 and good looking or you need not apply. (more or less)


No one should be discriminated against for any reason you are correct.

I want to be very clear about that but this the DR and not NY.
I don't care if you are male or female you don't hire already pregnant womean know ing that they will be on maternity leave for 90 to 120 days. and for the most part non productive months before they go one leave..


Here you go maybe a little reality check I hope your spanish is good.

I guess this is a march for womeans rights sort of.

Prostitutas protestarían desnudas por asedio autoridades

http://www3.diariolibre.com/noticias_det.php?id=25136

An employer should be able to hire who ever they want to work for them and not be forced to make quotas, further more you are talking a HUGE loss of revenue to pay some one when they are not working, then there are doctor visits , school registrations etc... where the employee is gone and the company has to make do with out or hire another employee to take up the slack, whats fair about that ?

Pappabowie, great idea, quotas is exactly what we may need until we achieve equality. Yes, we need to force employers to higher more discriminated people. Yes, we need to force the markets b/c these, as Adam Smith so cogently articulated, create inequality! So yes, quotas and laws that protect historically discriminated people is exactly what we need.

BTW here's aticle 239 of the Labor Code (also text of Law No.16-92):

Art. 239.- El descanso pre y post-natal es retribuido con el salario ordinario devengado por la trabajadora. Si la trabajadora está protegida por las leyes sobre seguros sociales, el empleador está obligado a pagarle la mitad del salario y el Instituto Dominicano de Seguros Sociales le pagará un subsidio en dinero igual al cincuenta por ciento del salario.
Note: The labor code was changed in 1992. Source: Suprema Corte (2006)

baldoria23, what does it state today? I thought the employer had to pay full salary on that period of time.

Hi Dani,

The above article is from the current labor code. It states that the Employer pays half of the salary and social security agency pays the other half.

Baldoria, i like to use the term set-asides, since it does not invoke the visceral disagreements that the term ¨quota¨does. the reality is that because of the imperfect relationship between the races, and the unequal distribution of power, if there were no setasides, the minorities would be excluded from all seats of power and wealth, and relegated to the status of menial labor. maybe that is what pappabowie would like to see happen!

Dread,

You have little respect for the individual don't you?

Is that why all the waiters in chineese resturants are Asian ? We could open more chicken joints for those of African descent "and former presidential candidates" If the Govt. patronizes my bussiness then they could make demands on my hiring practices, as long as the DR enforces these utopian demands industry will continue to rely on undocumented Haitians...

Racial Quotas, Afrimative Action, Set-asides.

Are all euphanisms that liberals use to say. "Your color and or Sex means you can't make it in the world. So we will make it so we lower the bar."

Does anyone else see liberals as racist?

It is also harder for older women .. those over 30-years-old .. to find gainful employment in the Dominican Republic .. companies prefer to hire younger women .. preferably those with no children and family obligations that might reduce their "potential hours on the job" .. there are also few enforceable laws for protecting women on the job ..

Who wouldn't rather have a hot to trot little office bunny any way ? usually by age 30 most Dominicanas have at least 12 or 13 children, that can add up to ALOT of off time as the father(s) are mostly out of pocket if their identity is known at all...truth hurts but there it is....People are paid by their hours on the job if they are not their they are COSTING the company money if salleried and causing their work to be done by their coworkers leading to less productivity, what if a slurpee stand or ice cream shack what ever had 3 employees a boy and two girls, now one girl has 6 kids who are always sick or in school what ever and the other girl gets pregnant now guido our happless hero is doing the work of 3 and the owner either has to hire a replacemnt untill #2 returns or Guido will have to miss his weekends at home with his family how is this fair ? What if the owner cant find a suitable candidate for his mandatory setaside position ? will he let G go cause he's light skinned ?

anthonyc, go move your spaceship from the handicapped parking spot. when they put the sign there, they are referring to the physically handicapped, not the mentally challenged. if you want to be some sort of Rush Limbaugh copy, you need to learn something first. not that he is too bright, either, having dropped out of a community college, of all things. let me try to educate you, if that is possible. everyone who earns a living pays taxes, to some degree or another. minorities, because of traditional employment with government agencies and other formal employment arrangements, all pay taxes on a pay as you earn basis. government projects are funded out of the taxes which mexicans, dominicans, nigerians, native americans, etc, etc, pay. when a government project comes up for bids, everybody should have a fair crack at it, because they all pay into the system which creates it. however, because of traditional arrangements, minorities do not generally have access to the seats of power

and ,consequently, are excluded from the process. do you think that the NYPD was almost exclusively Irish by happenstance? do you think that the trash haulage process in new york is controlled by Italians, because only Italians can abide the stench? you really need to bone up on your understanding of how society works before you keep making these unsettling, childlike assessments of things

: Jander, 18 Jul 2008 4:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic
NYCDR,

I have seen want ad's here that say you must be between 18 to 25 and good looking or you need not apply. (more or less)

Okay, I understand the part about women who are pregnant, but lets be honest, if your requirement is that it has to be presentable and young, its discrimination and another word for the requirements of a prostitute.
I do speak and read spanish, thanks for the article.
The unfortunate part is that these women have settled for less...the values are close to non existent due to the fact that men are not around to do their parenting part...
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Jander, I don't know if you are man..but I will guess you are...
The values are close to non existent in the homes. Today men and women don't really know their roles. Most have no role model or point of reference to say that this is how a man and or a woman should behave..its considered outdated. The excuse is life is short, you will die tomorrow!
I keep repeating myself over and over again. In our society we have become tolerant of the absurd. Men being financially supported by women and at times by other men (gay men).
A man is meant to be a provider, a protector, of moral fiber. Instead you have these clowns with their tight shirts (because they work out), over sized gold chains, eyebrows waxed and flip flops claiming to be men who have it going on. They don't, you find that in their actual day to day there is so much lacking as a parent and a mate you want to puke. continue

Men continue to have the upper hand when it comes to work, relationships and money.

Women have been convinced that there is a shortage of men, therefore you must find one at all costs, and do all sorts of stupid things to keep them. We have been told that we aged quicker (not true), that men are not willing to do their duty as a man (not true), that these men are down on their luck (not always true), that at least you know what he is like, the say goes: "better someone you know that someone you don't know yet" (so some settle for garbage).


As a result, ,men rip the benefits of these fears and toy with a woman's emotions, insecurities and their money.

Its human nature to desire to be loved, but love has no price attached to it, thats prostitution.
In today's world, prostitution is a choice that one makes. There are too many resources available, even in DR, to get out and make an honest living.

NYCDR ....Good for you Brava

Gouletcolonial,
Hey thanks : )