SANTO DOMINGO.- Cardinal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez said it’s urgent that the Government acquires the Super Tucano airplanes to fight against what he caked an increase in drug trafficking, despite Washington’s opposition.
Lopez, who participated in an Episcopal Conference in Quito, Ecuador, agrees with President Leonel Fernandez’s call for all sectors to join the Government’s search for solutions to the ills that affect the population.
The prelate laments that Congress has yet to approve the funds needed to buy the patrol planes, a request he said has become an outcry of all Dominican society. "I understand that the country cannot continue unprotected from this evil, the national territory needs to be protected and that’s why we feel that it’s time not only for the airplanes to be bought, but everything that’s necessary to confront narcotics traffic more successfully."
Lopez said the Dominican side of the border with Haiti is practically unprotected and the controls need to be doubled, even if the United States opposes the downing of airplanes. "The United States cannot speak much, because it doesn’t want the country to address the matter, especially the topic of the airplanes."
Source: diariolibre.com.do
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
Hooray for cardinal Nicky
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
but the only guys that knew how to fly them just got retired....well we can always put Texasbill in the silks
Written by: buenoha, 19 Aug 2008 10:17 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo
What we need is a wall between DR and Haiti! Secondly we need a good radar system and a stronger Marine/Airforce with the right resources to protect our territory from invasions of criminals and drug-traffickers.
Why have we not been able to protect our territory. If Puerto Rico can do it, so can we. The only thing needed is commitment from part of the government and allocation of the due resources.
From: United States
Well Well well, looks like goulish colon strikes again here against the thoughts of others with his superior intellect spewing words of confidence and wisdom, anything but anything but comments about the article posted.
goulish colon likes to here himself write makes him feel superior.
Written by: santanar, 19 Aug 2008 10:43 AM
From: United States
Come on cardinal let the political leader base on their political and diplomatic knowledge handle this issue, the respect of Dominicans for the church is of such an importance, that I believe your comments are out of line. Is like LF asking you to stop collecting money on Sunday.
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
Santanar,
I have to agree with you on that one. What the heck is a Cardinal doing commenting about that issue, unless he has a Brazillian family member who sells the Super Toucanos?????
From: United States
WRONG again IGNORAMUS .. I am 100% on topic .. but you know how these blogs can get .. even WITHOUT ME .. before you know it .. we are at the VATICAN arguing with the POPE ..
From: United States
Texas Bill,
I have always noticed that the church in the DR through Cardinal Lopez and others have tried to influence the government.
This is however the first time I seem to notice that they are trying to dictate the purchase of war equipment.
From: United States
There goes goulish colon agin with his needless and uselless chatter. Still he like to hear his superior intellect state nothing of any purpose or use for this editorial.
Even Belial sometimes hit on the topic.
From: United States
You gotta know something about Cardinals .. Popes used to lead TROOPS into WAR .. remember the time of the MEDICIS in Italy? .. which makes them more qualified than Bush-Cheney to WAGE WAR .. at least Bush served in the NG .. Cheney was too busy trying to get his PhD .. which he NEVER GOT.
From: United States
http://www.historyguy.com/wars_papal.htmlFrom the Middle Ages to the birth of the modern Italian State in the 1870s, the men who served as the leaders of the Catholic Church held not only a spiritual and religious authority, but also a very real and temporal political and military power as the rulers and princes of a unique European state known as the Papal States.
From: United States
Since the Cardinal is a rep of the Catholic Church here in the DR .. he is aptly qualified to select military equipment .. in fact if we are nice to him .. he could ask the POPE to buy the planes .. hence saving us $5.5 million per plane .. good idea huh?
From: United States
goulish colon anything but on the topic at hand.
From: United States
In fact .. it's possible the Cardinal could get into the planes and go up against the DRUGGIE PLANES all by himself .. what do you think huh?
From: United States, Richmond, Texas
Ghoul,
Right on target about the Pope. Was'nt there are period in history called the Crusades. And the templars went around europe kicking a$$ every chance they got as well.....
From: United States
Jawohl .. those POPES were no SISSIES .. let me tell you .. they wore FULL BODY ARMOR .. rode horses draped in FULL BODY ARMOR .. and CHARGED INTO BATTLE alongside their TROOPS .. how many "GENERALS" you see TODAY have the GUTS to pull off that kind of stunt huh? Too busy playing GOLF and PORKING the other "GENERALS" wife.
Written by: rom1804 
, 19 Aug 2008 12:41 PM
From: Zimbabwe
LOL... Now I know why the call this country the Dominican Republic......Its because it is run by Dominicans in the Vatican.
( For the idiots) I'm talking about the Religious Dominicans from the Vatican not the Dominican people.
From: Dominican Republic
I think this site is about due for a colon-oscapy. Jawohl Herr Doktor Johann.
Written by: DannyVC, 19 Aug 2008 1:14 PM
From: United States, New Jersey
"I think this site is about due for a colon-oscapy"
I agree, I mean at least I can understand the radical Haitians when they write something, I have no idea what this guy is saying.
From: Dominican Republic
My apologies for the spelling. Now apologize for the torture you put us through.
From: Dominican Republic
OK ! I get it. You were once arrested in the DR and haven't recovered. Ramble on if you must but keep it to a minimum. It hurts.
From: Dominican Republic
On a serious note it seems the Vice President is in hospital with dengue. Maybe now more attention will be placed on cleaning things up. LOL
Written by: Jander, 19 Aug 2008 2:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Just coincidence I am sure ? Private jet missing near Dominican capital’s airport, 2 on board
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
the sharks got em
From: United States
Private Jet lost? Maybe it was hit by one of Bush-Cheney's PRECISION BOMBS. Like the ones that were TESTED in Iraq. Do you want me to quote your post from Sunday?
From: United States
Here is what you wrote with regard to US bombs being dropped on Iraq:
Written by: Jander, 17 Aug 2008 10:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic
We do like to experiment though ,and see how well our weapons work ,be careful , those precision bombs weren't as precise as we had hoped, maybe next time..
From: United States
Perhaps they were "EXPERIMENTING" again .. and you know how imprecise those bombs can be .. right?
Written by: ABR23, 19 Aug 2008 2:39 PM
From: Puerto Rico
I came in late, and can just glanced at the postings. So what, the POPE is going to buy the Tucanos.(HAHAHA)
The USA was not against the purchase of the planes. It was againts the shoot down policy. regardless of which plane.
From: United States
BORICUA .. you are always late .. I see Filberto Ojeda is late too .. no wonder the US is running your country .. oh sorry .. I forgot .. you guys VOTED yourselves in .. hahahahaha ..
From: United States
This is a wake up call for all with a conscience. How can an ARCHbishop meddle with defense procurement, or logistical maneuvers, unless it's cause he's superior to the puppet president of the Vatican.
The drug trade is headed by the Knights of Malta, a extremely high order in the Catholic religio-political structure. It's also known as the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, which is one step below the infamous Jesuits, the men who really foment wars, and strife throughout the world with the ultimate goal of world domination: AKA The New World Order.
All these factors contribute to the current war in Afghanistan. Where poppy production has skyrocketed since the US invasion. Also, the Vietnam war was partially about poppy. So, it's no coincidence that the bishop speaks so boldly. He's playing the good cop, in the good cop-bad cop game. Lip service so "they" think he's tough on drugs. Some know the real deal!
Vea esto--
http://es.catholic.net/laiglesiahoy/mundoarticulo.phFrom: United States
Like I said about McCain: "You can't be pro-choice, and be pro-war". Saving lives, and destroy others in the same breath? In this article you have a Roman Catholic advocating the purchase of military aircraft to be used to shoot down other planes. Or, is it for another purpose? Who knows? All I say is this man has no business in his clerical capacity calling for military materiel purchases....None whatsoever. Or, does he?
Lopez Rodriguez: Stick to the Monaguillos, and the 'holy' water; You don't want to blow your cover. Reveal your true identity: An agent of Rome, roaming in the Caribbean nation of the Dominican Republic. I chose to call it Quisqueya to distance it from the clutches of that fierce red beast, the vatican. So, all eyes on "him', he might just be the regional tounge of the holy see. The man behind the figurehead!
Written by: Jander, 19 Aug 2008 5:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: nyghost, 19 Aug 2008 8:00 PM
From: Dominican Republic
I would prefer to have 100 planes shoot down rather than seeing my country become another Mexico.
start so shoot them down now!. :p
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
you cant be anti death penalty and pro abortion in the third trimester
Written by: nyghost, 19 Aug 2008 8:40 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Everyone knows this is not an easy problem to solve, the US has lots of experience with this problem they've thrown all kinds of resources to deal with it, but nothing they've tried has really worked out.
A country with very limited resources like the DR sometimes has to make difficult choices, we have to do something now even if is not the perfect solution before it gets completely out of hands.
shooting the planes alone won't solve the problem, but it will help cut down traffic by air.
until somebody comes with a better plan, I stand by the cardinal.
From: United States
Arsenio, you and i have had our differences in the past, and i know you do not give a rat's ass about what i think. however, i am glad that it was you who expressed those opinions, not i. i concur with you 100%, but i prefer it when other guys get the return fire sometimes.
Written by: anthonyC, 19 Aug 2008 10:22 PM
From: United States
"The drug trade is headed by the Knights of Malta, a extremely high order in the Catholic religio-political structure. It's also known as the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, which is one step below the infamous Jesuits, the men who really foment wars, and strife throughout the world with the ultimate goal of world domination: AKA The New World Order."
You are an idiot.
Everybody knows it is Opus Dei working with the Knights of Columbus and the Freemasons who work under the direct orders of N.O.W., NAACP, NRA, CIA, NACAA, NFL, FBI and the Boy Scouts of America.
Written by: ABR23, 19 Aug 2008 10:57 PM
From: Puerto Rico
Just leave the NBA and the NFL out of it. They will snort but not distribute.
Look at the logic if God's go to guy, says it is alright, then it must be. Anyway he is Catholic, if he screws up you just confess and say a couple of Hail Marys. Father forgive me I make a big mistake an chute down American Eagle. The bird my son? No ,the plane.
Hey Tatoo from Fantasy Island to be the DR spotter for the Tucanos he was Brazilian right.
THE PLANE, THE PLANE. ra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta !
Hey, hey what have I said about ASS-U-ME. This is an OK place (PR) if your coming from DR.
Just because I am here, does not mean I am from here.
If you gave me 10 minutes to leave PR my biggest problem is what to do with the extra 8 minutes.
I would move to Orlando, shit wait, that is like PR North.
Written by: ABR23, 19 Aug 2008 11:01 PM
From: Puerto Rico
New rule, no bloging while drinking beer. I just did and it was wrong.
I know, I know, we have idiots blogging all day long. But we have to set an example.
Plus, I will eventually be sober, but idiot does not go away.
From: United States
What's flying over everyone's heads is; Why is a Cardinal (Hinge man) making a case for the purchase of fighter prop-job military aircraft? I'm an U.S. Air Force veteran. I find it so outlandish for this to occur. It's like the 'bus boy' in a restaurant sending the 'chef' to the fish market to get more Lobsters! Apparently, the Dominican Constitution though patterned after the U.S.'s, failed to include the principle of Separation of Church and State. However, we can see that the Roman church is making advances even in the (Secular) U.S., as demostrated by the triumphant whirl-wind tour of Benedict last visit in April, this year. They pratically bowed down to the almighty roman deity. So, my point is that the Vatican and its tentacles control not only the drug trade, governments, the oil (prices) industry, the military industrial complex, but quite soon the whole world. Prepare for more outbursts coming from the "Church of Rome". They'll soon be calling for heads.....again!
From: United States
AnthonyC..............You are an idiot.
Everybody knows it is Opus Dei .....
You missed one group, YUCA: Young Uppity Cuban Anomalies!
*Who run from conflict at home to become famous in someone else's homeland.
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
must be a full moon all the trolls are out
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
Nicky scramble those jets all the heathens are after you
From: United States
Even Sasquatch with passports are roaming in places they have no biz in, today!
From: United States
from the look of things, Carbelk99 is hard and fast in training for an upcoming defense of his title as World's Most Ignorant Human. some of our other posters promise to make it a daunting challenge, but, if i were a sporting man, i would place a heavy wager on him to win by knockout. he opines that black equals violence; might he tell us who gave the world such pacific interludes as the crusades, the 30 years war, the 100 years war, WW1, WW2, the Korean War, Vietnam, and , not unimportantly, who dropped atomic bombs on civilian targets. at least carbelk serves to debunk his own myth of the superior intellectual abilities of caucasians, and their affinity for peace. and, dear Carbelk, in the event that you might want to rewrite history, first you should learn it, and secondly, you might consider learning to write! it is your absolute sovereign right to be a racist neanderthal, but you do your fellow travellers a grave disservice with your idiotic musings.
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
carbelk and his musings are similar to what the Georgians are saying about the Russians and vice versa and the desert people and the Israelis.the Serbians and the Croats all borne of INTOLERANCE...that being said there is no shortage of provocateurs and trolls on the opposing side
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
Bear baiting is an old sport...let it be said I sometimes participate on many subjects
From: United States
Goulet, it is the world's worst kept secret that you are, more often than not, a mischeivous pot stirrer, troublemaker, and pest; however, a man without malice and hatred. you just want to use up whatever fight you have left in you. you just want to rruuumbblle! but carbelk is ignorant, vitriolic , and dangerous. can you imagine if he managed to elevate himself from limpiabota to a position in which he could make decisions affecting human life? can you say "misery"?
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
booze and internet a bad coctail ask sang internet troll extraordinaire....5 jumbos and off the deep end....he has changed his name so often he forgets who to sign in as
From: United States
how about plain old stupidity and internet? that, my friend, is even more toxic. at least the alcohol wears off; stupidity is eternal
Written by: rom1804 , 20 Aug 2008 1:25 PM
From: Zimbabwe
and for that I will forever hate you people. (except for that big booty dominican chick down the street I will always love her) Anyway back on a serious note that moment right there is what hurt me the most yeah I will never forget that Feb. Oh crap everytime I think of the miss opportunities we had, I want to cry. All you F@ heads dominicans had to do was to stick with us a little longer and once we had paid that shameful debts our nation together would have gained even more in return because our people would have invaded Jamaica and the rest of the islands. THAT WAS THE F@ king PLAN you, you, rrrgggrrrr.... Ban nam' MERDE. Together We were the pearl of the Antilles idiots and that money we were paying them was chump change to us together but it hurt us the a lot the day that you left. That miserable day of February 1844 hurt us more than financially.
Written by: rom1804 , 20 Aug 2008 1:25 PM
From: Zimbabwe
OKAY! How is it not the Dominicans fault that Haiti is in the mess that it is in today.... "YOU PEOPLE"
Yeah I said it "YOU PEOPLE" betrayed us in 1844 with your little BS indenpendence tactics while we were paying for YOUR FREEDOM.
And Don't tell me that your were never slaves BS either. because the Spaniards even enslaved their own so for some reason I can't imagine the Tainos and the Spaniards back then were just sitting around the camp fire smoking their pipes like equals.
Not only did "YOU PEOPLE" betrayed us in 1844 you did it again and again by repeatedly inviting your former masters to retake the island that OUR HAITIAN FOREFATHERS have died for in order to set you free. and it cost us Haitians lost of money to retake back Santo Domingo each time. YOU PEOPLE should be ashamed of your independence. For me it only reminds me of the day we could have been great together but instead we are nothing but two magots nation in the face of the world.
Written by: rom1804 , 20 Aug 2008 1:26 PM
From: Zimbabwe
Now wouldn't it have been better if Puerto - Rico, Cuba and the rest of LATIN AMERICA would have to answer to none other than us The Haitian Dominican Republic AKA Hispaniola, Bohio Quiskeya whatever the hell you want to name it. Think about what your false sense of superiority and racism had cost us. IMAGINE Haiti having Jamaica and you Dominicans have CUBA we have Trinidad and you have Puerto Rico it could have been divided like or however else necessary. I Don't think we would have the whole Latin America but the surrounding islands would have definitely been ours. AND because you were the cause of our premier failure I will not forgive you Dominicans ever.
YOU DOMINICANS RUIN THE PLAN. and yes most of you are thinking right now maybe if the Dominicans were aware of the plan they would have played along BUT NO. YOUR ELITES COULDN"T BE TRUSTED (i.e. The Santana, Morales etc...)
Written by: rom1804 , 20 Aug 2008 1:27 PM
From: Zimbabwe
It had to be kept secret from your people back then due to the fact that most of your elites were allies with our enemies back then.
Oh! God Dominicans what have you done?
PARDON MY DUST!
From: United States, San Diego, California
I think the Cardinal is thinking totally wrong these days. How the US will oppose the DR to buy those planes. Unless the DR is expecting the US to pay them. Rodriguez is more a politician than a Cardinal. The DR will need a radar in order to track violator of the DR space.
From: United States Virgin Islands, Christiansted.from the bar at the Comanche
Dread the Z man is making big points for your side I doubt if Rubi will be able to counterpunch his way out of Z mans big lead....get Rubi out of the locker room and bring him on I will put the Rocky music on
From: United States
i think Rubi fainted in the locker room!
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Why have we not been able to protect our territory. If Puerto Rico can do it, so can we. The only thing needed is commitment from part of the government and allocation of the due resources.
goulish colon likes to here himself write makes him feel superior.
I have to agree with you on that one. What the heck is a Cardinal doing commenting about that issue, unless he has a Brazillian family member who sells the Super Toucanos?????
I have always noticed that the church in the DR through Cardinal Lopez and others have tried to influence the government.
This is however the first time I seem to notice that they are trying to dictate the purchase of war equipment.
Even Belial sometimes hit on the topic.
From the Middle Ages to the birth of the modern Italian State in the 1870s, the men who served as the leaders of the Catholic Church held not only a spiritual and religious authority, but also a very real and temporal political and military power as the rulers and princes of a unique European state known as the Papal States.
Right on target about the Pope. Was'nt there are period in history called the Crusades. And the templars went around europe kicking a$$ every chance they got as well.....
( For the idiots) I'm talking about the Religious Dominicans from the Vatican not the Dominican people.
I agree, I mean at least I can understand the radical Haitians when they write something, I have no idea what this guy is saying.
Written by: Jander, 17 Aug 2008 10:38 AM
From: Dominican Republic
We do like to experiment though ,and see how well our weapons work ,be careful , those precision bombs weren't as precise as we had hoped, maybe next time..
The USA was not against the purchase of the planes. It was againts the shoot down policy. regardless of which plane.
The drug trade is headed by the Knights of Malta, a extremely high order in the Catholic religio-political structure. It's also known as the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, which is one step below the infamous Jesuits, the men who really foment wars, and strife throughout the world with the ultimate goal of world domination: AKA The New World Order.
All these factors contribute to the current war in Afghanistan. Where poppy production has skyrocketed since the US invasion. Also, the Vietnam war was partially about poppy. So, it's no coincidence that the bishop speaks so boldly. He's playing the good cop, in the good cop-bad cop game. Lip service so "they" think he's tough on drugs. Some know the real deal!
Vea esto--http://es.catholic.net/laiglesiahoy/mundoarticulo.ph
Lopez Rodriguez: Stick to the Monaguillos, and the 'holy' water; You don't want to blow your cover. Reveal your true identity: An agent of Rome, roaming in the Caribbean nation of the Dominican Republic. I chose to call it Quisqueya to distance it from the clutches of that fierce red beast, the vatican. So, all eyes on "him', he might just be the regional tounge of the holy see. The man behind the figurehead!
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/08/19/iraq.mosque/index.html
Nice place , lets use mosque and human sheilds then everyone think that the US are savages..
start so shoot them down now!. :p
A country with very limited resources like the DR sometimes has to make difficult choices, we have to do something now even if is not the perfect solution before it gets completely out of hands.
shooting the planes alone won't solve the problem, but it will help cut down traffic by air.
until somebody comes with a better plan, I stand by the cardinal.
You are an idiot.
Everybody knows it is Opus Dei working with the Knights of Columbus and the Freemasons who work under the direct orders of N.O.W., NAACP, NRA, CIA, NACAA, NFL, FBI and the Boy Scouts of America.
Look at the logic if God's go to guy, says it is alright, then it must be. Anyway he is Catholic, if he screws up you just confess and say a couple of Hail Marys. Father forgive me I make a big mistake an chute down American Eagle. The bird my son? No ,the plane.
Hey Tatoo from Fantasy Island to be the DR spotter for the Tucanos he was Brazilian right.
THE PLANE, THE PLANE. ra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta !
Hey, hey what have I said about ASS-U-ME. This is an OK place (PR) if your coming from DR.
Just because I am here, does not mean I am from here.
If you gave me 10 minutes to leave PR my biggest problem is what to do with the extra 8 minutes.
I would move to Orlando, shit wait, that is like PR North.
I know, I know, we have idiots blogging all day long. But we have to set an example.
Plus, I will eventually be sober, but idiot does not go away.
Everybody knows it is Opus Dei .....
You missed one group, YUCA: Young Uppity Cuban Anomalies!
*Who run from conflict at home to become famous in someone else's homeland.
Yeah I said it "YOU PEOPLE" betrayed us in 1844 with your little BS indenpendence tactics while we were paying for YOUR FREEDOM.
And Don't tell me that your were never slaves BS either. because the Spaniards even enslaved their own so for some reason I can't imagine the Tainos and the Spaniards back then were just sitting around the camp fire smoking their pipes like equals.
Not only did "YOU PEOPLE" betrayed us in 1844 you did it again and again by repeatedly inviting your former masters to retake the island that OUR HAITIAN FOREFATHERS have died for in order to set you free. and it cost us Haitians lost of money to retake back Santo Domingo each time. YOU PEOPLE should be ashamed of your independence. For me it only reminds me of the day we could have been great together but instead we are nothing but two magots nation in the face of the world.
YOU DOMINICANS RUIN THE PLAN. and yes most of you are thinking right now maybe if the Dominicans were aware of the plan they would have played along BUT NO. YOUR ELITES COULDN"T BE TRUSTED (i.e. The Santana, Morales etc...)
Oh! God Dominicans what have you done?
PARDON MY DUST!