Does this remind you of a Broadway show? Drama, Musical? They sure sound convincing.
After getting caught with his hand in the "pilon jar". Now, he's calling the pot black?
What audacity? The ridiculous is common in POLI-TRICKS (my Jamaican partner's term).

HippoLoco is just fishing. He wants discussion to see if his name is on the list. That's all!

He also wanted a radar system and wanted to put army Captain Paulino and his team in charge of it some years back. Go figure!

Foodfight... Foodfight... Foodfight... Foodfight...

I wonder why Lie-onel doen't arrest Hipolito?

So many arrests, so little time...

at least for this article DT choose a pic of el burro with his CALVA covered up.

why is this man still talking?

can somebody tell me?

"So many arrests, so little time...'

No I think theLie-onel's tune is more like "so many PARDONS, but too many watching"!

Written by: josean, 9 Jan 2009 1:23 PM
From: United States
I wonder why Lie-onel doen't arrest Hipolito?
_________________________________________

Good Question, but according to a lot of dominicans here in DR, Ladronel does not want to go there.

If Ladronel is Legit, why does he not take hipolito up , on that offer? kind of like when vargas challenge him for a debate, on where both of there incomes came from.

The question should not be, "Why is this man talking?", but rather, "Why is anyone listening or paying attention?"

HippoLoco has one of those mighty minds.....mighty empty.

Him and the guy with all the Rolexes should both be behind bars

Ex-president Hipolito Mejia is right. There is absense of tranparency in the Leonel administration.

I bet Hippo want to run for Pres. again, he'll tell the people Baniter wasn't his fault, all those guys got arrested, I'm a reformer now!

Zak you are correct josean is the vanguard of the campaign

After all the corruption uncovered during the Hipolito MIS-Administration, it's a wonderthis guy is still thinking he is a viable politico!
His "Party" would do well to kick him out and put him out to pasture FOREVER!!

Stupid is as Stupid does.

TexasBill

josean very good question ,but not enough hit! lol

I wonder why Lie-onel doen't arrest Hipolito?

why?


because this country is very free, and is more likely you to get arrest it in the U.S and torture in secret then here!!

Hey TexasBill,

Where ya been pardner. Have not spoken with you since Christmas. Hope your doing well and had a good New Year.

Texasshoe

If it is so easy to debate with President Mejia about this matter, why the “great intellectuals” Leonel Fernández and Marino Vinicio Castillo do not confront him? It must be a piece of cake, no? What a wonderful opportunity for them to get political advantage. After all he is STILL NOW the most important opposition leader in our country.
President Mejia had to manage a huge economical crisis and in the process he paid a huge political cost while the necessary work was done. These jerks has more than four years ruling the country and nobody knows what is going to happen with us.
Keep talking, keep saying all that garbage but if you are brave enough go and shout “Viva Leonel” in a public bus.

PeRod,

I just don't understand why Lie-onel doesn't arrest Hipolito and any other person he has evidence of their wrong doing.

I know Vincho got his Big Fat "Donkey" whipped in court by Hernani Salazar for false accusations, but that shouldn't stop Lie-onel from going after the big fish Hipolito.

Even Chauncey has proof of Hipolito's criminal activity!

Will Hippo be performing Karaoke at the Ahi Bar in Santiago this Sunday? Sure looks like he's got the look in this pic!!!

Regardless of party affiliation, I believe Hipolito was a great head of State, but ran into some unavoidable issue that created discontent in the Dominican society which LF capitalize on, example was the Pan American Games, where the state spend millions of dollars on a commitment agreed to by previous the administration (LF ?), Hipolisto could have said no, but he understood that saying NO would have a negative impact on the country.

Hipolito wasn't a dumb ass president. He was an imbecile. He ran the country into the ground as it was his own private farm, with all the other burros agronomists taking orders from the No.1 ninkenpoop. His "advisers were the worst con men and mercenaries in the island like Andy "Bin Laden" Daujadre and gang.
He is guilty as sin for his association with his previous huge campaign donator and PRD leader Mr. Quirino and he is just stepping himself ahead of the investigation to cry "wolf" when they come knocking at his door.
Most of the military named in the inditement were close collaborators with him and had direct access to the man. Some were in the presidential guard. You all know who I am talking about.
He wants to run for president again and make his buddy Leonel stay in power forever as the voters have a nightmare when they imagine him being president again.
Que Dios nos agarre confesados!

Generoso, what is you opinion of the Pan American games in the DR? most Dominicans, me included believe it was the best projection of the DR the rest of the hemisphere.

Sorry to rain in your parade, but the 2003 Pan American games were the most corrupt and wasteful games in the history of the Pan Am games. Hipoloco almost gave Olegario Vazquez Rana a heart
attack, finishing some of the venues the same day of the event.
It was one of the few public works projects that was handled directly with Miguelito Vargas as all the other important public works were managed by Hernani Salazar.
Pan Am games are a party for rich countries. The DR has no business getting involved in the sponsoring of such events. They where sold as if the country would have benefited economically but NO Pan American Games have EVER made money, because the Olympic games are the only money making event as you can sell the TV transmission rights. But nobody wants to watch the Pan Am games so they had no takers as far as television rights.
Also all those involved profited greatly from the construction of the venues, so much so that it was regarded as a "retirement bonus" for some.

Cont
Dumb ass Hipoloco was sold the event as a money making and prestigious venture and it was none of the above, serving only to wastefully spend millions of dollars with few buildings left to show for it.

Generoso, if we are living in a paradise now what are you doing in New Mexico? It is really easy for all the persons living in other countries to say all that dirt but we are not as stupid as you are and we perfectly know how serious our present situation is because of the purple pest.
If you can write here that “President Mejia was an imbecile” (and that is your opinion) then I can write that “you” are an imbecile (and that is my opinion).
This government does not have a person as brilliant as Andy Dahuajare. Victor Díaz Rua is not a better minister than Miguel Vargas Maldonado, Alejandrina Germán was not a better minister than Milagros Ortíz Bosch and the PRD team was far better that this bunch of clowns that we have now.
There was an economic crisis, idiot, and that team fought really hard to manage the situation. They did a good job, not a “perfect” job but a good one and now we do not know what is going to happen if something similar happens with the PLD in charge.

PeRod
I am vacationing here if you must know.
I lived all four years of the disastrous PRD government in DR and I am still hurting.
With the exception of Doña Milagros Ortiz Bosch who I always admired and Don Hugo Tolentino Dipp who resigned in disgust to Hipoloco's decrees, all others were inept to say the least.
Make your comments not as a rebuttal because I made you angry with my comments, but state what you believe. Every moronic individual that believes that Hipoloco did a good job and Andy "Bin Laden" is not a mercenary. Then more power to you. These clowns caused and made the economic crisis worse by their inept handling of the Baninter failure. You can not shield the sun with one finger as it is said.
So, idiot I am not comparing the PLD ministers with Hipoloco's men. They are dumb and dumber.
BTW you meant living in paradise, not "leaving" in paradise correct moron?

Generoso, as a good PLD’s member you are ever looking for the little trees and completely ignoring the whole wood. I am not trying to teach you anything. I do not think somebody can do something like that. It just impossible to put something into that rock you have over your shoulders. I am just saying what I believe. If we had “four years of the disastrous PRD government”, why we ended with 29 PRD’s senators in 2002 and the actual government working in politics without any scruple and with a media dictatorship only got 22 senators in 2006? There was a crisis in 2003, stupid (Have you heard about BANINTER, BANCREDITO and Banco Mercantil?), and you are not the only one that was hurt. Look around over there, in United Sates. They have a crisis too and a lot of people is going to be hurt. The government task is to fight that crisis and put casualties to a minimum and that exactly what we did. It is impossible to have no casualties in a situation like that one.

Generoso, is this your team: Temístocles Montas, Héctor Valdez Albizu, Vicente Vengoa and Rafael Camilo? Wow! What a wonderful economic team! Andy is way ahead from that team, loser.

PeRod
I am not a PLD member, thanks.
You must have good reasons for adoring Hipoloco. BUT, and that is a big but,
do not let your opinion be influenced by whatever benefits you might incur if the PRD ever returns to power again.
The big lie that all Hipolito cronies recite like a rosary is blaming the banking crisis on the most terrible government the DR has had since Trujillo. You forgot all the scams, and the malaise, and the
daily insults by Hipoloco, the Renove scandal, the corrupt Pan American games. The bond emissions that vanished,
The unlimited Baninter card use to buy helicopters. The commitment of Dominican soldiers to Iraq without consulting the minister of Foreign affairs. The lies regarding the reelection. The changing of the constitution just for that purpose. The mockery in the aduana. The hiring and cavorting with instant civilian made-military drug lords. On and on and on. Believe what you want, citizens will have the government they deserve.

Generoso, people say a thief judge as a thief. I understand your position. You only can see politics as something for personal benefits but believe we still have people who love this country.
What the purple pest did when they got our public powers? They gave everything to the people who do not have any interest in our national development. They surrendered in front of our traditional powers and now they openly are their partners. They gave in, idiot, without even trying to fight for the people who believed in their words. We are as bad as ever but we have a group of new millionaires ruling Juan Bosch’s party.

Generoso, I support Hipólito Mejía mainly for this reason: he is not afraid of conservatives. He said to the church: “In this country anyone can believe what he or she wishes” and he was not afraid of the Cardinal’s animosity. He said to the big companies: “Hey, everybody has to pay taxes” and he was not afraid of the rich people’s animosity, we have general medical care thanks to Hipolito Mejía, we have persons very, very rich in jail because of their felonies thanks to Hipolito Mejía and it was possible for us to support a terrible economic crisis thanks to Hipolito Mejía. He is not perfect, but he knows what is necessary to do and he is not afraid of doing it.

Photo Caption....".And on that farm he had a pig ee aye ee aye oh "

What ever happened to Lie-onel's helicopter Pilot?

PeRod
When you give yourself and enema and evacuate your moronic beliefs about Hipoloco "the burro" , you will shrink to the size of a midget. Maybe then you can get a new voting card so you can
vote twice for Hipoloco. Then he will have three votes total, your two votes and himself, because even his wife and family don't want him back.
Try to move forwards not backwards. Hipoloco is a bad nightmare from the past, dream about new faces, new persons, new ideas, like Guillermo Moreno for example.
You hear that josean?

professor g,

I knew sooner or later you would come over from the Purple side, oops I mean the dark side!

However in all fairness and seriousness how should have the Baninter bank case been handled?

Generoso, you only can write nonsense, nonsense and more nonsense. Oh, yes!, you are “independent”, as “independent “ as the PLD’s loudspeakers Eury Cabral and Julio Martínez Pozo. Talleyrand said: “You can not cheat all the people all the time”. Your game is over and now we perfectly know what the purple pest actually is.

Josean, “in all fairness and seriousness” we (PRD people) were not fast enough getting back the financial instruments we used to manage the economic crisis; that was a mistake, but from there on everything was handle perfectly and with billon dollar problems over our heads (yes, USA money) we kept healthy our financial system. We absolutely surpassed the contagious problem thanks to Hipólito Mejía. That is something that Leonel Fernández never could do with all his meetings to discuss everything for finally doing nothing.

" ee aye ee aye oh "

Might as well bring the "cigarros" and the "barcelo" sounds to me like an old classic cock fight.....

josean
The depositor run on the Baninter deposits to withdraw their money could have been avoided by
using different metodology instead of calling a presidential press conference and throwing gasoline on fire.
The Baninter insurance company could have been salvaged as well and in just a few days it was worthless due to the ineptness of Hipolito.
The same thing with the merge with Banco del Progreso.
The Pepe Goico thing was badly managed as well and that's how the whole thing started.
It is well known that Ramoncito and Hipolito had bad words in a public function and this thing deteriorated to a fight amongst titans and the public paid the bill for these two huge egos.
Then the disposal and care of the assetts that were left were looted by the PRD cronies and
buddies of Central Bank governor and Andy Bin Laden.
The whole thing could have been avoided more so that there was another big jealous Dominican private bank urging the confrontation and spreading rumors about Baninter.

F...en Hippo is moron extraordinaire. He really doesn't think he is going to be named as a drug accomplice?

Another classic Dominican education.

"Ex-president Hipolito Mejia is right. There is absence of transparency in the Leonel administration."

WHAT?

The only thing Dominicans are transparent about is their corruption. They wear it as a badge of honor. It is bragging rights, a way to be a macho tigre. They lie shamelessly as though anyone who is listening is a bigger moron.

This pathetic immoral mentality is inbred.

Gmiller261, our “pathetic immoral mentality” may be “inbred” nowadays but it was not so in the past.
Historians agree about this: we learnt official administrative corruption during the occupation of our country by the United States from 1916 to 1924. Before that we were naughty but after those professors that we had here we ended as we are today: with a problem that we do not know how to resolve.
In Concho Primo times (those times before the presence of the United States in our country) you could find a lot of rebels leaders but not a lot of corrupt leaders, that came later.

Josean, are you reading what that fool can write?
In 2003 BANINTER had fourteen years (fourteen years!) with administrative irregularities. They were taking money from the savers for particular investments and they were playing a Ponzi game too (paying interest from new deposits and not from profits). That was a bomb and absolutely nobody could avert that bomb explosion.
The Madoff case is right now in the USA press. Read about that case and you will see what a great liar this Generoso is.

PeRod
Are you semi catatonic or just dumb?
Looks to me like your are Haitian buster, because of your foul language and I don't like to be called names you a..hole.
If you don't like my comments you catatonic Hipolito burro, write about what I wrote and write some specific rebuttals not general empty statements.
What specific lies are in my statements?
You have a name very apropo to your personality...pee rod.

PeRod
You vulgarian ignoramus just like your burro boss Hipoloco the huge burramus.
You haven't answered one, not a single ONE of my statements, just rambled on
with your whining and complaining about the purple pests.
Give me facts, pendejo, re read my post and offer a rebuttal. Otherwise go with your boss and exchange each other's vacinilla and drink some soup out of it. It will taste super you catatonic idiot. DUH, DUH.
Yes it's true talking to an illiterate a..hole like you I am another a..hole thinking that I can educate you a bit and rescue you from your useless diatribe.
You are beyond hope, dream on with your other dumb barefoot campuno brain giants that fantasize about Hipoloco returning to power. He had his chance and blew it! Ask all the intelligent Dominicans that voted against him ever returning to a position of power in the DR. In any other country he would have been behind bars!

Generoso, it is not my fault if you are completely unable to understand what you read. It is not my fault if you only can repeat over and over as a brainless parrot what the Political Committee order you to repeat. I am the one who is making statements; I have explained how the things really happened. And read this: before being president, Hipólito Mejía was an excellent agricultural minister and he still is the best agricultural minister of our history. He was a successful entrepreneur too. What was Leonel Fenández before the day Joaquín Balaguer rose his hand? A second class political figure and a third class practicing lawyer. Now, just because of the economic crisis he bravely handled, President Mejía is nothing and your stupid boss is everything. That is not the true and you know it, jerk.

Generoso, in any other country is Leonel Fenández who should be behind bars. Not to do that pertinently was one of our sins. I hope we will not make the same mistake again.

Hipoloco was "el guapo de Gurabo" because he used to slap fellow agronomists around surrounded
by many bodyguards in a rampant abuse of power and human rights during his tenure as agricultural minister during the 1978-1982 presidency of Antonio Guzman. Nobody denies that at the time his work as agriculture minister was passable if you compare him to previous ones and
future holders of that ministry. Doesn't make him a world class agriculture minister or even an expert.
His government was the government of the "agronomists" and he ran it to the ground with the help of other agronomists that were like a fish out of water.
I don't say that it's a widely circulated document amongst foreign intelligence analysts. Anyway I don't have to believe it, I witnessed the lousy, corrupt, ambivalent, insecure, populist government
centered around a ninkenpook who was learning on the job and had very partial to themselves
and corrupt mercenary advisers like Andy Bin Laden.

" witnessed the lousy, corrupt, ambivalent, insecure, populist government
centered around a ninkenpook who was learning on the job "

1996 to 2000 and 2004 to 2008 also fall into that description?

josean
Different MO (modus operandi) basically same end result. Big difference is that the PRD government
everybody is corrupt from the top down to the street sweepers in the PLD only the tops guys have that right. That is why they are labeled by the public "comesolos". Only the top guys can "stew".
So apparent fiscal sanity is portrayed while the big guys accumulate millions.
Government does run better with PLD and is more efficient to the plain eye.
Collections in the PLD government from aduana and taxes increase substantially in the PLD
government but expenditures for non capital expenses like payroll and "miscellaneous" things like trips abroad, restaurant bills, cell phones, cellular use, buying jipetas, and so forth also increase.

PeRod
Furthermore Hipoloco was the best inside maneuver politician for the PRD and excelled in that
mode, he could have been a good PRD president because he could master the all the "tigueres" in the PRD well and have them eating out of his hand.
But his hunger and thirst for more power and his strong inclinations for ruling in an absolute
no-questions-asked dictator mode fueled his fall and eventual rejection by voters.
Instead of backing Doña Milagros Ortiz Bosch who could have been a much better choice and the first woman president of the DR he broke his promise to her and the citizens of not seeking reelection and went ahead with the reelection efforts, creating malaise and discord in his own party. Even causing the
feud between Hatuey Descamps and his eviction from the PRD more likely called now the PPH.
Decent ministers like Hugo Tolentino Dipp quit in protest to his arbitrary orders and meddling in all matters that he was not an expert in, like foreign affairs.

PeRod
Still like a good moron child trying to put a square peg into a round hole, Hipo went ahead with the reelection efforts backed by all the corruption millions in the coffers, trying to win solely by mass advertising, populism and cronyism using everything at his disposal including some high ranking military and all of the corrupt, thirsting for more graft sycophants that surrounded him not understanding in his own
perverted messianic complex that his popularity was non existent and to seek reelection trying to
"buy" the votes would have been an exercise in futility.
He ostracized Doña Milagros and she did not join campaign for Hipoloco, now afflicted with presidential thirst rabies, until the end... forced by campaign debt obligations when she reluctantly gave a few lukewarm speeches in support of Hipoloco.
The rest is history, Hipoloco thank God is history as well, you might as well devote your energies
to somebody who is not a "pichon de dictador" and mentally unstable

PreRod, I do not care where this mentality came from. Fix it.

You only make my point stronger by saying that it has existed since 1924.

In the US there are corrupt people, but when they are discovered they go to jail. Martha Stewart did.

In your country, they shamelessly lie and no one gives a crap.

By now it should have been bred out of you.

gmiller261,

"In the US there are corrupt people, but when they are discovered they go to jail.'

Wellll!!!!!!!!! Like Roni use to say, some do and some don't!

Irve Lewis "Scooter" Libby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Libby

Henry Cisneros

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cisneros


Just to name two, on both sides of the aisle, to be fair!

Mr generoso
Very good comments about the past president HM and right on the money.
Even though he was from the town of Gurabo close to Santiago, I was never fond of him and knew from many close associates that he was not fit to hold the high office of president.
I was embarrassed to say this guy was the president of the Dominican Republic.
His 4 years were the worst nightmare for many honest businessmen from Santiago
and surrounding regions. Most persons don't know but maybe some day will know the horror stories that are exchanged in private of his dubious dealings.

and on this farm he had a duck " ee aye ee aye oh "

I see you are your fine repetitive self today!

I wonder why they are begging the PRD to attend?

http://www.listin.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=87490

They want consensus if nobody comes then no consensus.
If nobody shows up that will be sending a strong statement to the purple pests like my buddy PeRod
calls them.LOL.

"Written by: generoso, 12 Jan 2009 7:25 PM
From: United States
They want consensus if nobody comes then no consensus.
If nobody shows up that will be sending a strong statement to the purple pests like my buddy PeRod
calls them.LOL."

I knew it was only a matter of time before you guys made up!

josean
We haven't made up yet, he hasn't seen my latest postings, I am sure that he will show up sooner or later and start firing his Katiusha rockets at me.

Generoso, you are bad. You are really bad. If you were a horse it would be necessary to shoot you. Look at this: “I witnessed the lousy, corrupt, ambivalent, insecure, populist government centered around a ninkenpook who was learning on the job…” In 1996, when your leader Leonel Fernández ended in the presidential office with the indispensable support of Joaquín Balaguer, he had not managed a little grocery store and he had no money at all earned in his practice as a lawyer and as a professor. Everybody remember his car, a little beetle Volkswagen, and remember his very clean rags. Everybody remember everything about him. There is no other president in all our history that had started with less experience and you say that president Mejía (the most important Guzmán’s cabinet member and a prosperous entrepreneur) was the one “learning on the job”. What a fucking great you are, poor man!

Generoso, “ambivalent”, “insecure”. How can a Fernández’s follower talk about being ambivalent and insecure? “Corrupt?”, “Populist?” A PLD’s member talking about corruption and populism? Generoso, what a shameless man you are! Euclides Guiterrez is acussing his own people of corruption and you are talking about corruption. The government payroll (this government payroll) is completely full of people that is not working in any place and you have the balls to talk about being populist.

President Mejía is “el guapo de Gurabo”, he is not “el bravo de Gurabo” (that mistake is something unbelievable, every Dominican know that) and he is really a brave man. I perfectly know the anecdote about his nickname and there was no bodyguard involved (and remember, our political chicken is Leonel Fernández).
Andy Dahuajare is a prominent figure in the Dominican Republic just because he is a great economist (he is our greatest economist). He was just in the middle of an economic storm only as an adviser (he did not have any government office) and he did a good work. That is the truth and if you do not like it you can cut your veins yourself.

Professor,

I think this match should be conducted under Olympic boxing rules. So please wear your head gear so you can withstand those heads blows!

PeRod
Still you provide no facts. Just angry rants like a mad little child that has his toys taken away.
I did say "guapo" and corrected it but "bravo" has the same meaning big deal.
I have told you many times, moron, I do not have any political party membership. Comprende?
I never compared Hipoloco with Leonel, you did, and by the way the volkswagen that Leonel owned didn't have a starter motor so it had to be pushed to start.
To say that Andy Bin Laden is a prominent figure in the DR, wow he sure is prominent no question about that. Like his cousin Osama he is a prominent figure for mass graft, corruption and political terrorism as well as spreading misinformation. Prominent figure my a.s.
Now read my postings again and this time take some Ritalin to help your concentration since you obviously lack brain cells in your attention span and only understand a limited portion of what I write. Then go to Avenida Duarte, pull down your trousers and grind some glass with your bu.t.

josean
This "fight" is really a mismatch, I missed sparring with a worthy opponent not a featherweight.
It is like Kimbo Slice against Pee Wee Herman, (me being Kimbo Slice of course).
What head blows? You need glasses, he didn't even come close with his unbalanced and crazy
jabs to the air that did not score any points.
I am getting bored, is there anyone else out there that wants to come in the defense of Hipoloco The Great? One that preferably has not benefitted from the gross corruption or had a nice salary maybe in dollars from his barefoot excellency?

Mr generous
This thread is very funny.
I laughed more than watching Saturday Night Live.
Funny but accurate at the same time.

I am glad I made somebody laugh.
You got any cigars laying around for me?
I still partake once in a while.

Generoso, these are facts: 1. Hipolito Mejía was a good president in the middle of a terrible situation that was not his fault. 2. He did what it was necessary to do. Other countries in the same situation are doing exactly the same thing (protecting their financial system) – that is “a fact”, Generoso–. 3. The purple pest still now is accusing him about everything because they do not have something better to say about their poor work.4. He is the only Dominican politician with enough courage for to put all these things on the right track (these conservatives –Leonel Fernandez’s bosses– are going to kill us). Those are facts, looser.

Generous, have you ever heard about what comprehensive reading is? It is really sad you dropped so early. Perhaps in third grade you could learn enough so you could see all the facts you have in front. It is not enough to read, you need the capacity to understand what you read. It is not enough to repeat over and over what they asked you to repeat as a part of the dirtiest campaign in our political history.

Saved by the bell, the Professor staggers bloodied to the wrong corner of the ring, as the crowd yells, go to the purple corner,the purple corner, while the man in the white trunks raises his fist in defiance of the odds makers!

And ladies and gentlemen that is only round ONE of and old style 15 rounder for the Heavy Weight Championship of the WoooorlDDDDD!

josean it appears Obama dined with Rush last night..... " This could ruin their reputation: President-elect Barack Obama Tuesday evening attending a dinner party at the home of conservative columnist George Will, attended by fellow conservatives William Kristol and David Brooks." .........say it aint so josean .....Was ": The Great One " there ?