Santo Domingo.– Writer Carlos Agramonte, author of a novel denouncing the
existence of slavery on Dominican sugar plantations, said he
will leave the country due to constant harassment since the work was
published.
Agramonte, a professor of engineering at the
Autonomous University of Santo Domingo, told the press he will leave the country next week. He announced the
decision after complaining that “El sacerdote ingles” (The
English Priest) had been removed from bookstores and unknown
individuals were seeking to intimidate him.
In a letter sent to Dominican Attorney General Radhames Jimenez, Agramonte
said that while heading home at night on March 3 he was pursued by
unknown assailants trying to kill him. That incident, according to the writer, was one of several threats he has received.
He highlighted that a friend who is a
high-ranking military officer advised him to leave the country for a
while, saying his life is in danger. Published in January, “El
sacerdote ingles” intertwines the fictional tale of doomed love between
a Haitian female doctor and the scion of a Dominican sugar dynasty with
the real-life story of Anglo-Spanish
missionary priest Christopher Hartley and his defense of impoverished
sugar-cane cutters.
Written by: generoso, 21 Mar 2009 11:09 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
I do not agree with this kind of persecution against the right of free speech. But also the writer wrote about a very controversial subject that fuels hate in many readers. He had to expect this kind of
response from the "dark forces" and not flowers to be sent to him.
Just like when Salman Rushdie wrote the "The Satanic verses" that caused that a "fatwa" demanding his death by the Ayatollah Khomeini.
The writer might also be stirring up public interest by sensationalist news such as this.
Carlos just move and change your telephone number, that is all. You should have used a pseudonym to market your book.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
genoroso you cannot put lipstick on a pig ....Comparing the DR to Iran and telling the writer he should have used a pseudonym is pretty ugly stuff for a country that should have respect for free speech I mean "fatwas" are a little Medieval dont you think.....I take no position on the book and I am well aware of outside agitators with their agendas ....but the ability to speak freely supersedes all other freedoms
Written by: abc200, 21 Mar 2009 11:38 AM
From: United Kingdom
I know many people who have been threateded in the US,UK, Switzerland etc. Accept the fact that there is little free speach anywhere. University professors in the US have been forced out of their posts. Every year hundreds of journalists are killed - everywhere.
Sad but true.
S.
Written by: generoso, 21 Mar 2009 11:41 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
GC
Reread what I wrote and not misinterpret and mislead to political interpretations.
The writer is not being persecuted by a country but by unknown individuals.
If you have ever written anything in a public media, you know that your expressions of thought generate opinions and controversy. Some of them flammable and nothing unusual, more so in a country so politically opinionated and with many social bias as the DR.
So let the writer beware. (Caveat Scriptor).
Written by: generoso, 21 Mar 2009 11:46 AM
From: United States, Santo Domingo
GC
You are obviously referring to abc200 your archenemy, not me correct? Or should I say archenema? LOL.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
The facts about the impoverished cane workers who are appear to be treated as slaves and live in atrocious conditions while being exploited by people who are making hundreds of millions of dollars every year and taking the profits from the exploitation out of the country is a story that must be told but which some people will try to suppress..
I would rank the conduct of the sugar industry here at the same level as the government corruption
From: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9QQqOaf....Btk/l3nEbrB9eJM/s1600/i793745.jpgThis is the first time that I have heard of the book, and yes everyone should have the right to freedom to speech. I guess this is a plug for his book, I have looked up his name and he is written about in U.S. news papers.
This sounds like a great book, one should also try to look up the documentary the “Price of sugar”.
From: United States
Free speech. period.
Oh I forgot LF said most of his countrymen are illiterate.
So it must be the ones that can supposedly read. This is the kind of BS you can expect from the 'smart' Dominicans. That does not say much.
Written by: antonio1, 21 Mar 2009 1:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
Nothing but making a move to bring attention to the book. GM, If you don’t have a clue about the anti Dominican defamation campaign that started with the Homo/ child molester European priest, that would be reason enough for you to pull your head out of what orifice it is stuck in and get the facts.
Written by: juanb, 21 Mar 2009 2:36 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Someone writes something controversial and people have the right to persecute him? And some say it is his fault for writing it?The country continues its march backwards. And its picking up speed.
Written by: belly51, 21 Mar 2009 2:48 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco y Houston,TX
Have you all notice he never says who is harrasing him or anything from what i have read from this guy he is just trying to make the book sale.If he has the guts to make this kind of books the would he care to say who is harrasing him and put those folks on the spot just like you doing it to DR. By the way he is not going to be the first Dominican to leave and sure won't be the last one. Nice publicity stun. well done.
Written by: vacanos, 21 Mar 2009 2:51 PM
From: United States
this writer remind me so much of baldoria23 AKA babosita
Written by: vacanos, 21 Mar 2009 4:14 PM
From: United States
You guys missing the picture here. The govt is not harassing this person. Probably some outrageous Dominican who feel disgusted by this writer agenda and want to send him a message. If someone tries to blackmail a country I bet you some citizen of that country will feel outraged too. It could happen in any country. Probably nobody is threatening this NGO writer he is just raising the alarm to keep his propaganda afloat.
p.s. the Haitian people are the biggest masoquista you will ever know. I mean we treat these salvage so bad yet they keep coming like cucaracha.
From: Dominican Republic
This proHaitian wrote a story that never included the Dominican point of view on this matter! He just echoed the defamation and false accusations launched against DR! This is freedom of speech that instigate the erosion and destruction of DR! THIS IS PURE TREASON! He better leave!
If two people were really chasing him to kill him, he would have been dead! This excrement is just creating publicity again to the detriment of DR!
If we tolerate this excrement voice, then we must tolerate opinions that will go against the core of DR and its liberators!
Written by: vacanos, 21 Mar 2009 5:39 PM
From: United States
letrodebelle
you are a good dominican who care uncompromised about our country.
excellent you put those word better than mine. pronto esas lacras humana van a llamar a Duarte european rapist. watch
Written by: antonio1, 21 Mar 2009 7:07 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
Will this gentleman ask for asylum in Haiti?
Written by: vacanos, 21 Mar 2009 7:13 PM
From: United States
by antonio1 "Will this gentleman ask for asylum in Haiti?"
this malcontent ngo know who he is dealing with. el conoce las lagrima de cocodrilo.
Written by: antonio1, 21 Mar 2009 7:42 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
lol
Written by: yumnuk3, 21 Mar 2009 7:51 PM
From: United States
Written by: Citizen_of_the_World, 21 Mar 2009 3:47 PM
From: United States
Carlos Agramonte is welcome to my home in the U.S.
See the video below to see that Agramonte is right on point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6fjhYtQtUWhat did the Haitian Government, and its elitist class do to these poor individuals to make them leave their homeland?
Please enlighten us.
Written by: antonio1, 21 Mar 2009 8:11 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Av Santa Rosa, La Romana
What did your government do to these people to make them leave their land?
That's what we are trying to figure out.
From: United States
the genius of vacanos offers this remark;
this malcontent ngo know who he is dealing with. el conoce las lagrima de cocodrilo.
dude, do you know what an NGO is? for a guy to ridicule a PhD, as you attempt to do with Baldoria, the first thing he should do is to get a minimal education first. i do not mind when you address asinine remarks to me, because i realise that you are a semi literate peasant who wants to insinuate himself into circle of people who can count beyond five. but have some respect for a man who has more academic qualifications in his toenails than you will acquire in ten lifetimes. it speaks to your absolute lack of civilised upbringing.
Written by: antonioj, 21 Mar 2009 9:24 PM
From: Canada, home safe
One have to love VACANOS aka arkatype about letroudeballeGeneroso aka Greenwave, we are looking at the best and the pride of the Dominican republic, gentlemen you deserve a medal.
Written by: antonioj, 21 Mar 2009 9:30 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"From: United States
the genius of vacanos offers this remark;
this malcontent ngo know who he is dealing with. el conoce las lagrima de cocodrilo.
dude, do you know what an NGO is? for a guy to ridicule a PhD, as you attempt to do with Baldoria, the first thing he should do is to get a minimal education first. i do not mind when you address asinine remarks to me, because i realise that you are a semi literate peasant who wants to insinuate himself into circle of people who can count beyond five.
"
Dread, you are being too kind, I would disagree fully, please substitute the word "semi literate" to "functionally illiterate" , which is appropriate.
From: United States
antonio, i stand corrected, and rightfully so! one can tolerate the occasional lapses in good taste, but this guy is insufferable, asinine, and a philistine of the lowest order .he does not even have the good sense to realise that he is way out of his depth, and seeks to set himself up as the new Pontiff of broadband. people laugh at his every remark, and he simply laughs along, thinking it is a game. connect him to an intelligence detector, and the needles would not move one iota. then he seeks to ridicule Baldoria, a man with a doctorate degree in his field of study. i have seen it all.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
does the young lady in the photo work both ways?
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
Remember your heroes in those wacky countries will put you in jail for a long time for speaking your mind
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
chill you would be in a dark cell for a long time with bad food and an ugly novio
From: Spain
Eso es como todo en el principio si quieres publicar algo que va a fastidiar la gente es bueno y malo por lo que les afecta de la verdad o no.de cual o sea si publicas algo es como hablar publicamente entones tiene que aguantar que viene sobre sus editoriales y sufrir los consecuencias y por no mantener sus pies en el suelo y quedarse alli seria una pena por el entones eso refeleja como cobarde,Rd es un pais democratica y la gente son origionalmente de los sclavitude y españoles y que no se pueda cambiar historia,ya esta hecho entonces esta libro solo subrayar puntos de historia que todo sabemos que paso,no escribiendo lo que no habia pasado es cosa diferente ,pero supongo esta libro tiene que habria pasado el consenso de departmento de sensura
Written by: pelaut, 22 Mar 2009 8:16 AM
From: United States
WHAT? I thought there was no racism in the DR, only in the bad old U.S.
I travelled a whole year in the southern states of the U.S. with my prieto criolla wife of 25 years. I was raised in the south. We never felt anything but love and graciousness from everyone the whole time.
Here a gringo must nonetheless tread carefully. But I could write a book like this in the Old South and reap nothing but praises. Doms, you got a long way to go.
Written by: vacanos, 22 Mar 2009 9:37 AM
From: United States
dreadlock when an afro centrist condescending racist like you in the class of Jeremy Wright get upset at me I feel like I did my job with you, like I always do here with the other foreigners (antonioj, taki, solis, afrolatino, sonnytee, papapupu, hatian101,dominicanation, ect ) idiota. After schooling you many times here you still don’t get the picture about me. I will ridicule Leonel himself if I feel in any way he is doing something detrimental to the well being of my country. Which I had done it already here. When I see this Agramonte I see the diabla of Sonia Pierre. Babosita is no different than this writer. It is the same agenda these people like you promoting against my country. Seat tight nappy dude we are not going to allowed these payaso get away with their garbage.
Written by: vacanos, 22 Mar 2009 9:42 AM
From: United States
pelaut do your people a big favor get lost. now this dude comparing the dirty south to dr.
From: Dominican Republic, la Romana
Pelaut..you must be joking about no racism here in this country and the lack of love for a fellow man ,,it is rampant and just another result of poor education. There has been no war with Haiti since the 19th century and that country now is impoverished yet read here,ad nauseum, the total lack of care for these black people ..thank goodness, the french, germans italians, english ,japanese and americans have got over their spiffs a little more sensibly .
The combination here of an woeful catholic church and a corrupt government system is why there is such a long way to go.
From: United States
why this country has a long way to go can be attributed in part to the fact that idiots like vacanos were born in it. who in Sam Hill is Jeremy Wright? the poor cretin just exposes himself to daily doses of ridicule, using the same tired old "afro centrist" nonsense on a daily basis. he is too retarded to realise that if you speak out against racism, it does not make you "afro centrist". i comprehend the fact that his limited mentality impairs his ability to offer anything intelligent, so i excuse his indiscretions. but it is high time that people with brains realise that by simple denying the existence of a condition, it will not go away. and, vacanos, the only job you are equipped to do with me is to squeegee my windshield.
From: Dominican Republic
Vacanos we all know that you love DR! Keep writing! This forum needs your writings!
From: United States
nobody questions vacanos's love for the country. what can be questioned is his value to this, or any other forum. any academic exchange needs vacanos just about as much as a fish needs a bicycle.
Written by: antonioj, 23 Mar 2009 9:56 AM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: vacanos, 23 Mar 2009 9:49 AM
From: United States
dreadlock why are you getting so upset when people single out you as afro centrist charlatan like al sharpton or jeremy wright? you are no different from those two clown. if you got the same ideology of those two rata who blame color for everything then you fall into AFRO CENTRIST.
"
"No entiendo ni papa" Vacanos can you translate it in spanish ?, what are you trying to say genius ? folks that is what happened when you are hook on google translate, you end up writing sentences that make sense only to yourself , just like Vacanos does .
From: United States
i hardly think that even vacanos understands what he writes. sometimes i wonder if he is from this planet. human beings do not have such thick skulls. how many times have i asked him who Jeremy Wright is, and he does not get the picture? this is just a cretin who likes to receive attention, and he will take it any way he can get it. so, if it is ridicule, it is all the same to him. at least he is in the game. i feel so sorry for the poor unfortunate mentally challenged ignoramus.
Written by: vacanos, 23 Mar 2009 10:32 PM
From: United States
antonio the clown you cant understand because you guys speak french as your first language. i dont blame you at least you are making an effort right antonito.
Written by: vacanos, 23 Mar 2009 10:35 PM
From: United States
dreadlock you are writing the same crap every day. it seen from studying you, are suffering from some kind of annesia.
Written by: EDITOR, 24 Mar 2009 9:37 AM
From: Dominican Republic
We ask VACANOS to tone down the posts please.
From: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me
we who is we ......identify yourself
Written by: antonioj, 24 Mar 2009 9:44 AM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: EDITOR, 24 Mar 2009 9:37 AM
From: Dominican Republic
We ask VACANOS to tone down the posts please.
"
Let's just hope, that he follow your advice.
Written by: EDITOR, 24 Mar 2009 10:27 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Thanks Goulet for noting the oversight...EDITOR is Jorge Pineda, of Dominican Today.
From: United States
Roso you have not heard from me for almost 10 days and you have not even asked for me.
With friends like you I do not need enemies like troude ball, vacanos, and the others.
Well I was in Puerto Plata but could not enjoy my stay , I had a terrible cold.
Being cheap , I used the guagas instead of renting a car and I think this was how I got my cold.
I was around too many people.
Written by: Ray47, 28 Apr 2009 10:40 PM
From: United States
I remember reading about this issue a while back and did not know it was still a hot topic. After reading all the comments, some of you took a left hand turn somewhere and got off the subject. The issue was the writter getting harassed for writing the book. Racism is a very delicate subject because it is very emotional and one person's point of view can be misconstrued. If the wrter is really getting harassed most likely it is from the sugar industry or a some crazy person that is ashamed of the book.
From: Canada, El Baron Del Cementerio
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response from the "dark forces" and not flowers to be sent to him.
Just like when Salman Rushdie wrote the "The Satanic verses" that caused that a "fatwa" demanding his death by the Ayatollah Khomeini.
The writer might also be stirring up public interest by sensationalist news such as this.
Carlos just move and change your telephone number, that is all. You should have used a pseudonym to market your book.
Sad but true.
S.
Reread what I wrote and not misinterpret and mislead to political interpretations.
The writer is not being persecuted by a country but by unknown individuals.
If you have ever written anything in a public media, you know that your expressions of thought generate opinions and controversy. Some of them flammable and nothing unusual, more so in a country so politically opinionated and with many social bias as the DR.
So let the writer beware. (Caveat Scriptor).
You are obviously referring to abc200 your archenemy, not me correct? Or should I say archenema? LOL.
I would rank the conduct of the sugar industry here at the same level as the government corruption
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9QQqOaf....Btk/l3nEbrB9eJM/s1600/i793745.jpg
This is the first time that I have heard of the book, and yes everyone should have the right to freedom to speech. I guess this is a plug for his book, I have looked up his name and he is written about in U.S. news papers.
This sounds like a great book, one should also try to look up the documentary the “Price of sugar”.
Free speech. period.
Oh I forgot LF said most of his countrymen are illiterate.
So it must be the ones that can supposedly read. This is the kind of BS you can expect from the 'smart' Dominicans. That does not say much.
See the video below to see that Agramonte is right on point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6fjhYtQtU
p.s. the Haitian people are the biggest masoquista you will ever know. I mean we treat these salvage so bad yet they keep coming like cucaracha.
If two people were really chasing him to kill him, he would have been dead! This excrement is just creating publicity again to the detriment of DR!
If we tolerate this excrement voice, then we must tolerate opinions that will go against the core of DR and its liberators!
you are a good dominican who care uncompromised about our country.
excellent you put those word better than mine. pronto esas lacras humana van a llamar a Duarte european rapist. watch
this malcontent ngo know who he is dealing with. el conoce las lagrima de cocodrilo.
From: United States
Carlos Agramonte is welcome to my home in the U.S.
See the video below to see that Agramonte is right on point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6fjhYtQtU
What did the Haitian Government, and its elitist class do to these poor individuals to make them leave their homeland?
Please enlighten us.
That's what we are trying to figure out.
this malcontent ngo know who he is dealing with. el conoce las lagrima de cocodrilo.
dude, do you know what an NGO is? for a guy to ridicule a PhD, as you attempt to do with Baldoria, the first thing he should do is to get a minimal education first. i do not mind when you address asinine remarks to me, because i realise that you are a semi literate peasant who wants to insinuate himself into circle of people who can count beyond five. but have some respect for a man who has more academic qualifications in his toenails than you will acquire in ten lifetimes. it speaks to your absolute lack of civilised upbringing.
the genius of vacanos offers this remark;
this malcontent ngo know who he is dealing with. el conoce las lagrima de cocodrilo.
dude, do you know what an NGO is? for a guy to ridicule a PhD, as you attempt to do with Baldoria, the first thing he should do is to get a minimal education first. i do not mind when you address asinine remarks to me, because i realise that you are a semi literate peasant who wants to insinuate himself into circle of people who can count beyond five.
"
Dread, you are being too kind, I would disagree fully, please substitute the word "semi literate" to "functionally illiterate" , which is appropriate.
I travelled a whole year in the southern states of the U.S. with my prieto criolla wife of 25 years. I was raised in the south. We never felt anything but love and graciousness from everyone the whole time.
Here a gringo must nonetheless tread carefully. But I could write a book like this in the Old South and reap nothing but praises. Doms, you got a long way to go.
The combination here of an woeful catholic church and a corrupt government system is why there is such a long way to go.
From: United States
dreadlock why are you getting so upset when people single out you as afro centrist charlatan like al sharpton or jeremy wright? you are no different from those two clown. if you got the same ideology of those two rata who blame color for everything then you fall into AFRO CENTRIST.
"
"No entiendo ni papa" Vacanos can you translate it in spanish ?, what are you trying to say genius ? folks that is what happened when you are hook on google translate, you end up writing sentences that make sense only to yourself , just like Vacanos does .
From: Dominican Republic
We ask VACANOS to tone down the posts please.
"
Let's just hope, that he follow your advice.
With friends like you I do not need enemies like troude ball, vacanos, and the others.
Well I was in Puerto Plata but could not enjoy my stay , I had a terrible cold.
Being cheap , I used the guagas instead of renting a car and I think this was how I got my cold.
I was around too many people.