Written by: juanb, 8 May 2009 1:37 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Charity organizations? Or political activists masquerading as charities?
And understand that any thinking person must deplore the violence here and in Haiti.
From: United States, NY/NJ
Now they are killing innocent Dominicans on that side without fully understanding things. It's an endless cycle of ignorance and stupidity that will just anger and cause more bloodshed. This is a conflict that's been cooking up for a while, and the idiot politicians don't have the balls to confront the main issues at hand.
Written by: xwill7, 8 May 2009 2:26 PM
From: United States, Chicago
This is bad. any Dominicans in Haiti should return to DR for their own safety
From: United States, Yonkers, NY
This behavior will not do them any favors. Much easier to act like a bunch of savages then try and do something productive and meaningful to address the issues of the day and find a solution to improving the relations of Dominican and Haitian peoples.
From: United States, Bella Vista,Santiago
i wanna see what the ignorent haitian posters have to say about this, what's ganna be the excuse to justify this.these ppl are behaving like primitive savages and even killed 2 dominican women that had nothing to do with this.DEPORT THEM ALL!!! and build a 15 foot wall and lock it down.
From: Haiti
It's sad to read that..., I hope Dominicans and Haitians can team up and work together on various potential problems such as immigration, environment, Trade, drug Traffics, diseases, social issues, and so forth.
This petty altercation is only of great benefit to the elites who have interest in seeing both parts of the island so divided. The Haitian elite is doing business with the Dominican elite. They all are making worthy money together, and they have common interest.
But the point is, by far both side of the island are fighting like wild cats and dogs, higher can be both elites’ economic profits. Dominicans and Haitians are fooled by those extremist elites. This blame game all across both countries is unnecessary, thus we need to understand what’s exactly at stake here…
Dominicans and Haitians need to speak in a united voice against racial discrimination all across the island. We all need to work on legislation to fix the immigration system that will hurt us mightily…
Written by: agibus 
, 8 May 2009 3:08 PM
From: United States
Folkloric posters what you expect.
Written by: agibus , 8 May 2009 3:13 PM
From: United States
Bravo Don Manuel your theory is good for rationalists.DR and Haiti are two different culture
From: United States, La Hermandad
They are ralling for a murderer!
Let's deport them all.
Now it is very clear the WALL MUST BE BUILT!! ASAP!
Written by: Bailarin , 8 May 2009 3:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 ......
From: Haiti
I want to ask Dominican people from everywhere to consider Haitian people like brothers. We need to be SMARTER than the extremist Haitians and Dominicans who are trying to fade away the relationship between both countries.
I contacted some medias in Port-au-Prince (HAITI), and the information related to the death of two Dominican women is WRONG and WRONG… We should understand that there’s a group of people (Dominicans and Haitians) who is ready to seize any opportunity to flare up any type of dissension between Haiti and DR. We need to be clever than those who are always working on dividing both countries.
Haitians and Dominicans, stay cool… We should be SMARTER than the extremist Haitians and Dominicans. May GOD bless you all…
From: United States, NY/NJ
lol cyberdragon, God forbid it getting that bad, however if we combine with Haiti I think it will look like that because our governments are too underdeveloped and would lead to a situation similar to the video.
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
donmanuel
in order to find an understanding between the two nation, one nation needs to first act like one.
what i mean by that is the lack of governance in haiti, your ideas would work fine is haiti will come up with something that resembles and army or a police corp.
Your conspiracy theory of elite societies running the masses against each other is nothing but hogwash. The haitian nation should take responsabilities for their corrupt government and if any agreement is going to be made, first they need to take back the more than 2 millions ilegal hatians in DR territory.
And we totally understand what's a stake here. the future of DR, how can we survive when we carry such a heavy load of iresponsabilities?
http://www.mibazaar.com/corruptcountries/From: United States
Bring back Dick Cheaney (The Ultimate Puppet Master & Untouchable of all times).... we have to reload with more rubber bullets again.
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
DonManuel ...of course you are 100% correct in what you write and so many people here write inflamatory words and try to keep the two nations apart based on events that occurred before they were born and because one country has a french background and another has a french background ..France and Spain are neighbours and have a good relationship now even after hundreds of years of animosity.
you can go anywhere in the world and see neighbouring countries that were former enemies now having a harmonious relationship but here the lower intelligent classes try to establish and maintain hatred and division where as those with a more mature mind try to establish a peaceful and harmonious relationship.
From: Haiti
I want Haitians and Dominicans to stop the blame game. The immigration issue must be discussed at a higher level. We don’t need expeditious justice. Both governments have to work to secure their border and to fix the broken immigration system.
It’s not going to be easy. But we need to start discussing future legislation. Haitians and Dominicans need to find a current compromise. Both governments should engage in serious talk to assuage any possible immigration issue.
Written by: antonioj, 8 May 2009 4:35 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: agibus, 8 May 2009 3:13 PM
From: United States
Bravo Don Manuel your theory is good for rationalists.DR and Haiti are two different culture
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What does different culture have to do with what Don manuel have eloquently stated above, russian cooperate with china and so forth...
From: United States
This is the product of hate. I read many times people are saying DR and Haiti are two different cultures...Hello people...they are two different cultures. Working together does not mean assimilate other cultures, it means working together by developing partnerships favorable to both countries.
Ignorance is a cancer. Believe me or not, the Elite is banking on that.
Viva Haiti, viva DR.
Written by: antonioj, 8 May 2009 4:39 PM
From: Canada, home safe
"Written by: cyberdragon, 8 May 2009 3:32 PM
From: Dominican Republic
This article reminds me of this song:
http://www.wntube.net/play.php?vid=1873That video is also my prediction for DR within the next decade.
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This is a white supremacist site group if you share the philosophy... think again you may find yourself on the wrong side cyber
From: Haiti
Haitians and Dominicans should work together and show the enemies that we know how to leave our discrepancies behind us. For God’s sake… We have too much in common, and we still waste our time in cheap talking…
Two weeks ago I visited the neighborhood of Washington Heights, New York, with my fellow fulbrigthers. I’ve met a lot of educated Dominicans who clearly understand the issues between Haiti and RD. We need to be more open one to each other and discuss faithfully about our people’s interests.
We need to promote more positive energy in both sides of the island. A basic dynamic of energy is that we attract who we are. The more positive energy we give off, the more we’ll magnetize to us. It works like this: violence attracts violence, happiness attracts happiness, love attracts love, and ... Peace attracts Peace...
Written by: juanb, 8 May 2009 5:08 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Thank you for your intelligent analysis, Don Manuel.
The haters hate you also. Ignore them and let's all work together to make this a better situation.
From: Dominican Republic, Boca de Chavon
To the Thinker and DonManuel...how wonderful to have the voice of reason , intelligence and love brought to the site and all the nonsense about the differences in culture, colour and backgrounds refuted so clealy .
From: United States
Bring the music together, and see the magic begin......QUE VIVA EL KOMPA / MERENGUE. It's all about understanding cultures... not the fkn skin!!!
From: United States
agibus is it naivety or just pure stupidity to think that Haitians and Dominicans are two cutures?
Dominicans eat grandules , Haitians do not ?
Dominicans eat goat meat, yuga,dirnk rhum and morir soriendo,assit to cock fights and Haitians don't
Dominicans brown their chicken,eat habituela con arroz y los Haitianos no
What do you eat ? truffle and caviar ?
From: United States
You mean to tell me that two countries that have been intermigling and interbreeding for more than 300 years can still have two distinct cultures ????
No wonder you think that Alejandro, Williams,Leonel,Pena Gomez,Ulises,Johnny Ventura are Haitians
From: Haiti
I am always confident in the positive side of every nation on the earth. Dominicans and Haitians are two culturally rich nations. We need to show the world how complementary and rich this island is !!! I cannot understand why in this 21st century Dominicans and Haitians cannot live together in a mutual understanding. The younger generation (Haitians and Dominicans) must step up to show the world we want to live in a harmonious and peaceful fashion.
“Whoever can see through all fear will always be safe”, Tao-Te Ching.
From: Haiti
As we go through, we need to be aware of our dark side and try to heal it. Also we have to learn from our mistakes. I think it’s pretty easy for Haiti and DR to work together. It’s not an exaggeration to say that both countries had never have a profound disagreement, or indisputable and unsolved problems.
Immigration is a complex issue, but it can be solved if we play by the rules. We have to provide those who are living in Dominican Republic with legal documents, and dissuade those who want to cross the border illegally from doing so. In fact, Haitian and Dominican authorities must work together and do not let space for extremists and corrupt businesses who are currently reigning on both sides of the border.
Written by: Belly, 8 May 2009 5:59 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
everybody needs to take a step back and deep breath then move on. We have to find ways for Haiti to stablelise and become a better country
Written by: BASTA, 8 May 2009 6:06 PM
From: Dominican Republic, =Ghetto/Legalize Drugs
DEPORT THEM ALL!!! and build a 15 foot wall and lock it down.
Yes Yes rid NYC of these Dominican pests!! Lie-onelly is waiting to give all a 10,000 check
From: Haiti
Well, we need to be aware of our dark side and try to heal it. Also we have to learn from our mistakes. I think it’s pretty easy for Haiti and DR to work together. It’s not an exaggeration to say that both countries had never have a profound disagreement, or indisputable and unsolved problems.
Immigration is a complex issue, but it can be solved if we play by the rules. We have to provide those who are living in Dominican Republic with legal documents, and dissuade those who want to cross the border illegally from doing so. In fact, Haitian and Dominican authorities must work together and do not let space for extremists and corrupt businesses who are currently reigning on both sides of the border.
Written by: Belly, 8 May 2009 6:58 PM
From: Dominican Republic, San Francisco and Houston,Texas
Baronsamedi
You need a girlfriend and some good friends LOL welcome to the site. We all love you too.
Written by: grocock, 8 May 2009 8:24 PM
From: United States
two different cultures (be headed VS. Burn em down) its not up to the people to establish peace,
that's more like a gov't affair, let them deal with it.
Written by: agibus , 8 May 2009 8:32 PM
From: United States
Don Manuel has received a good training.He is a master in charming serpents.You were so under his influence that life was colored in pink.But listeniing Baron Samedi.the loving guru just tell to be aware of our dark side and try o heal it.and pretty bla bla bla or it's not exagerate..........
Tell me naive or stupid but reality is DR and Haiti are so different not only cultural but in organization of the state .In the caribeean Haiti is special.VIVE LA DIFFERENCE is the logo to invite visitors.It's MAGIC.Sorry i just wake up.
From: United States
Baronmakak you have been eating too much dog food and you lift your rear leg to piss.
It is criminal like you like you who go to the Dominican Republic to kill Dominicans and think that you can get away the murder.
As you can see the Haitian and Dominican authorities will not save you when Dominicans grab your stupid ass and chop that nonsense from you mouth.
Written by: agibus , 8 May 2009 9:52 PM
From: United States
President J.Balaguer leaved a legacy to DR it's a book :La isla al reves.Etienne01 keep talking to Baron and you will discorver how different we are.
From: United States
again were is the true if the guy from haiti kill his family and he took revange what wrong with that.as an haitian living in the us haitian has
turn very violent since the arrival of jean bertrand aristide as president
of haiti, again since we share the same island we must get along if not we will have a very bleak future,
From: Haiti
letroudeballeGeneroso, the only fact that you did answer to my post informed us that you're really ready for change. Your explanation proves us that you understand perfectly the issue between DR and Haiti. I am optimistic that you can be a valuable actor in the future of the younger and smarter generation (Dominicans and Haitians). Good job, letroudeballeGeneroso...
Immigration is a complex issue, but it can be solved if we play by the rules. We have to provide those who are living in Dominican Republic with legal documents, and dissuade those who want to cross the border illegally from doing so. In fact, Haitian and Dominican authorities must work together and do not let space for extremists and corrupt businesses who are currently reigning on both sides of the border.
From: United States
very sad comment from haitians.as an haitian i propose repatriment of all haitians in the dr.if we are unable to do it we should close our mouth no country will aloud their citizen kill with machate. we should all get our
brother back to haiti and make them work the land.haitian need to respect other country imigration law.
From: Dominican Republic
Robert9112f, do you realize that very few of your fellow Haitians think like that?. You are welcome to the forum unlike those greedy ones who can't see mas immigration causing a demographic problem just because they don't know what it's like to have something to lose.
Written by: Username, 9 May 2009 9:21 AM
From: Dominican Republic
What is happening here is a mini snap-shot of globalization. The governments and the corporations cramming different nations together in order to control and explode them more efficiently. Same thing is the EU, they are "uniting" nations who have been warring and hating each other for centuries together, stripping them of their armies, national identity and culture in order to make the people more efficient modern day slaves.
From: Dominican Republic
In other words, NWO.
Written by: agibus , 9 May 2009 9:49 AM
From: United States
Username
Globalization is the key word.Eureka.
Written by: agibus , 9 May 2009 9:53 AM
From: United States
So low class RD/HAI open your eyes.
From: Dominican Republic
Malpropeter, I can see you are displaying your naturally acquired TNB.
From: Dominican Republic
Talk about TNB, you swore in every sentence and you didn't even use proper grammar. Go back to school. And yes, I would really appreciate if the Haitian government draws all the Haitians in DR back to their motherland.
From: United States
This conflict is the product of european imperialism. Why? They cut a border in between a small island that divides two people who are maybe 1 shade off the color scale apart.This division made the island what it is today an island of ignorance and conflict therefore no progress can be obtained. Look at Africa ,the European powers did the same thing they divided the nations in a sense so there can always be conflict. They diivided Africa into single Nations who house two or three rival tribes. And many of the African Nations are in Civil War because of this strategic divisions. Now for La Hispanola, when you divide you conquer when an Island that should have been one Nation to begin with is divided the Island is weaker and therefore this island will never progress. As radical as it seems the only way to solve this promblem is by first Educating the Haitian and Dominican People, because with out education you cant do anything and then slowly intergrate the island.
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
It is funny how all this Haitians trolls talk about what we need to do to fix the haitian/dominican relationship.
and i said let's talk about what you haitians need to do in order for your poor masses to avoid been abuse in the DR and other places like Jamaica and the bahamas, which by the way never gets mentioned when the government of this islands openly descriminate against haitians, in the bahamas they have no rights whatsoever not even to go school.
Even press Obama has failed to sign legislation halting the mass deportation of illegal haitians from the US. It seen to me their patriotism only come out when the violence is done by a dominican, which feeds the stereotype of haitians been a bunch of ungrateful children that bites the hand that feed you, let's not forget that if wasn't for DR been somehow a more prosperous country haitians would be eating each other right now.
And when you read the comments made by malpropete clown you see why DR and Haiti will never get alone.
From: Israel, Jerusalem
XxMolotovCocktailxX, 8 May 2009 2:53 PM
From: United States, NYC
i wanna see what the ignorent haitian posters have to say about this, what's ganna be the excuse to justify this.these ppl are behaving like primitive savages and even killed 2 dominican women that had nothing to do with this.DEPORT THEM ALL!!! and build a 15 foot wall and lock it down.
So now they are the one , who are primitive savages / what about the U.S soldier who just beat up the illegal Dominican upstate New-York ; should we justify this Soldier Cowardness.
There is cowards everywhere As a haitian man who have a lots of respect and love for my Neighbooring nations . I opposed and condem such act if it's true .
For years we have Dominicans living there as normal people , this stupid Government at home should punish those cowards who took advantage of the last event .
As haitian I opologized to the Family of those victimized for such barbaric act of my fellow countryman .
However XxMolotovCocktail
From: Israel, Jerusalem
Written by: AdrianCabreja, 9 May 2009 12:19 PM
From: United States
Well said .
But a lot of Haitians or Dominicans doesn't even dare to learn that part of themselves . However it will take a Haitians Domicans president of Santo Domingo to lead us there .
Which will be just the same as Obama presidency to america -
Bravo AdrianCabreja, 9 May 2009 12:19 PM
From: United States
From: Dominican Republic
Old school Trinitario brought an interesting observation about the treatment of Haitian in the other Caribbean island. This data is important as it clearly shows that the Haitian intend to unify their forces to selective pound on DR and take over the island.
The selective Haitian respond is not done by mistake. It has a delivered intention. Like Trinitario said, the U.S. is about to deport 30,000 Haitian in Miami and the Haitian would not even protest in front of the U.S. embassy in Port of Pigs.
We must reciprocate the Haitian action so that they don't interpret our lack of action as "fear" or "impotence." Our Government is being forced to be defensive and pacifist (by the internationals) and this atittude is eroding our sovereingty and our society!
From: Dominican Republic
Andria, please do not disrespect STO DGO/DR history! The whole island was STO DGO and the stupid buccaneers helped France placed their slaves on the western side of STO DGO.
We can not unite! The addition of failure to poor performance leads to failure! DR has prospered way before the Haitian began dumping their inresponsibilities and failures to DR.
In Africa, of course the different tribes will not merge to the obedience of the political drawn lines (like in Nigeria and Cameroon). But also there is the threat of the muslims who are conducting genocide to implant their religion!
By 2020, the muslims will be the majority in France, Spain, and probably in the U.K. The Muslims are the next biggest threat to the world (a different topic)!
Written by: Username, 9 May 2009 2:45 PM
From: Dominican Republic
This situation is a ticking time bomb and the GOV should start defusing it ASAP. DR is run by cowards who don't have the balls to order its security forces to start deporting the illegals, who hate DR and its people. It puzzles me why not one presidential candidate run on this platform since nationalism always mobilizes the masses and brings the votes?
BTW, Generoso is right, the Muslims are coming, and nothing can stop them!
From: United States, La Hermandad
We need to do like the Haitians and protest in front of the goverment house.
For what I read the Partido Reformista Social Cristiano are the only ones talking about the subject.
I think a type of "El Doctor" needs to come to power.
Too bad there is no Researches Menguele type among our politicians.
Written by: telemeco, 9 May 2009 5:01 PM
From: United States, Paterson, New Jersey
wow,,,i cant wait for crazy haitian like the one here Malpropreter to do something stuped like putting bomb in our cities so we can have an excuse to clean the island,,and thank you for showing us the face of haitian most Dominican are aware of,,un-educate SOB,,i also want to acknowledge that there good Haitian out there and i know a few,,,these people are also afraid to return to they own homeland,,,it is chaos outthere,,, also,,,to those making opinion from Texas and israel when the Texan make peace with the Mexican than you can teach how to do it, when israel let the palestinian become a state then teach us how to do,, in the mean time, stick your finger in your ass when you have nothing contructed to say.
i can also predit, that this situation can also be use by politician to get elected into office in DR. that idea scare me, cause we be going to war and this time we Dominican we be taking over the whole nation of Haiti.
From: Dominican Republic
Poponlaburra, maybe you're right about another "El Doctor", but we can't become like them and chimp-out in front of a freakin' government office.
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
All I see from the haitian trolls is the race card and the prostitute card.
sorry ass people, not wonder every country they go has a mass deportation program in place to deal with this ungrateful people, they all come out trashing DR over an isolated incident because of the barbarism a haitian national committed against a dominican, but don't worry the DR have laws and justice and the dominican man that decapitated this haitian man will have to answer for hais crime, not so much for the haitian murderer that is currently hiding in haiti where there is no law and order, his crime will go unpunished.
yeah letroudeballeGeneroso the trolls don't wanna talk about how their migrants are treated in the bahamas and jamaica when they arrive.
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
Bahamas -- The flow of Haitians sneaking into the Bahamas is turning into a flood that is straining social services and bringing calls for mass deportations.
The development also worries U.S. officials, who fear it might be a forerunner of a new surge of Haitians trying to get into the United States to escape their nation's dismal economy and political instability. Bahamian authorities estimate 60,000 Haitians are living illegally among the island chain's 360,000 citizens. The military, which has increased patrols at sea, says 4,220 Haitians were caught last year - - the highest number in a decade and nearly 50 percent more than were stopped in 2001. Over the years, some Bahamians welcomed the Haitians as a source of cheap labor, but there is a growing chorus demanding that the government crack down and send the migrants back home. "They use our hospitals, our social system, they clog up our schools and take away from Bahamians," said Theodore Roberts, a 31- year-old technician. " co
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
Read the article and find out why everywhere they go is the same issue, but hey, you have to hate somebody, i guess. Hate DR is the motto for some of the haitians trolls here.
What this ungrateful trolls don't understand is that despite all the bullshit they say they experience in DR , we are the most welcoming and tolerant nation they ever go, if it wasn't for the DR compassionate people your country would be even worst than there is right now.
keep talking about our prostitutes, our yolas going to PR, our people in the states, in the end 100 years from now DR still will be a green beautiful island nation and haiti a dry desert hole, why? because we care about our country and you don't. And it will be like that for the next 100 years.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20030414/ai_n14547761/don't hate, APPRECIATE.
OR WE'RE GOING TO GET BAHAMIAN ON YOU
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
Donmanuel
why don't you take the opportunity that you're in Haiti and go by the haitian parliament and tell those good for nothing haitian politicians to stop making complains about DR and do some work and forget about Aristide, tell them to turn the page and forget about the fake priest dictator wanna be.
And start working toward a better republic, a republic that provides for it citizens so they don't have to go to DR and get decapitated by an angry mob.
If you go make your statement and don't stay for long or they will press charges against you for spying for the DR government and burn a tire around your neck.
From: Dominican Republic
Hahahaha, Donmanuel, do you realize all we want is for there to be peace, all you really are promoting with the integration of the island is confusion and hate which will lead to civil war. Look all we want is to be with our own, forced integration will never work, that's the Crusades and soon the USA. Just because you and most of your fellow Haitians/self hating Dominicans don't know what it's like to have something to lose doesn't mean you can convince people to think like you, the only reason why Dominican/Haitian relations don't work is because it will never work. I'll repeat what you said:"Children, why can't you let the pedophiles live together with you in your room?, we need to promote peace between you two...yada yada yada...God bless you all...
From: Dominican Republic
Haiti/DR unification=Time bomb.
From: Dominican Republic
keep talking about our prostitutes, our yolas going to PR, our people in the states, in the end 100 years from now DR still will be a green beautiful island nation and haiti a dry desert hole, why? because we care about our country and you don't. And it will be like that for the next 100 years.
Trinitario, the above comment would be true only if we clean the house. DR is suffering serious problems and it's likely to get worse unless of rid the patria from this dark cancer.
From: Canada
Este acto que occurio en herrera demuestra como un dominicano es ante todo un criminal nacido. El mundo ya sabe que son ustedes. En lo que se trata de mi ya cancelé mi viaje hacia este pai de barbaro. En fin Mel Gibson podia irse en RD para montar su pélicula..Assesinos
From: Dominican Republic
Cachou, tu das risa. Si comparados con ustedes somos un angelitos. El unico pueblo salvaje del hemisferio son ustedes. Gracias, por no ir RD. No haces falta tu, ni tu dinero sucio de los haitianos. Ojala, no vaya ninguno de ustedes jamas a RD. Nada me haria mas feliz. Vayan a mierda de colonia africana. Estoy jarto de ustedes.
From: United States
2haitian proud I don't blame you for the things you're saying I know it's just the mud talking.
From: Dominican Republic
Don Manuel, I got an idea. Let's promote the building of a water canal along the border so that we can use the water for energy production. Just like they built the Panama Canal, we can part the island in two and allow the ocean find itself on the other side, making it clear where each country lies. Then we send them back to their ancestral land and they use their Unity makes the force to rebuild Haiti. I'm a fucking genious, I should get a nobel prize for avoiding the next genocide.
From: Dominican Republic
LOL @ Bonahan.
From: United States, Bella Vista,Santiago
bonahan48,dude your my role model...
From: Dominican Republic
Thank you, xxMolov, just doing my nationalist work. I'm not joke and sick and tired of Haitians. It feels great when I open admit that I'm anti Haitian. I'm neither afraid nor ashamed. We need to organize.
Written by: antonioj, 9 May 2009 11:24 PM
From: Canada, home safe
cyberdragon, XxMolotovCocktailxX,,Bonahan48, why le troudeballeGeneroso is not included in your gang ?
Get it off your chest my friend and let's hope you feel better and get your composure back again, pork ahora esta reventa de rabia mi hito.
From: Dominican Republic
The only one with an immigration issue is DR! DR has two milllion Haitians and more than 100,000 cross into DR every year. So Don Manuel don't you see the problem here is Haiti dumping its illegals to DR? DR is not sending illegals to Haiti!
Manuel focus your energy on Haiti! They are the source of the problems! DR is just downstream of the Haitian's problem outsourcing!
From: Dominican Republic
Manuel, Haiti is not even a country. It's more something like a human collection. Yes, humans I will not go too low and say that they live like animals. They don't deserve that. They are more like kids who burnt they parents house and roofless think the stars will cover them from the rain. Only to realize that the expose to the climate killed them years ago. The Haitian Revolution was a mistake, a big one and Haitians are paying the price of their irrational behavior.
From: Dominican Republic
Trinitario I love your summaries!
From: United States
As an Haitian American living in the us i really deplore the sad comment on both side
However i must tell you i have a lot of respect for the DR what they have done with their country
and we haitian r distroying our country with fighting with each other,All i could say it is in the best interested of the DR to unsure stability in Haiti because bad press from Haiti is not good for the DR AND THA COULD CAUSE SEVERE PROBLEM FOR THE ISLAND,OF HISPANIOLA.
From: United States, La Hermandad
And which country is listening to Haiti? None.
All countries are Haitian fatigue. Estan Hartos, todo el mundo esta arto de Haiti. The only group that is pro-Haiti is soem Ngos, if they have power, I am mother Theresa.
From: United States
miltonmass. while you are insulting the Dominicans while your fellow citizen are right now invading this country looking for food scraps and killing innocent Dominicans.
that is all you guys are doing :create a nuisance in someone else country and talk about you past.
your present condition as the poorest, more indisciplined, vain , turbulent singular little nation in the world is the consequence of your bloody past."Koupe tet , boule kay"Chop head and burn down houses"
this is the same bestial reflex that you have began to display in the Dominicans Republic
and so far the Dominicans have shown compassion and restrain for listing to your ignorant comments.making threats,spitting insults and yet they accept your asses in the country and still feed you ,give you medical care and protect you.
where were you when cedras,michel francois,and the stincking elite were chopping your brothers heads.
just behaving like the usual coward,hiding under your bed
From: United States
keep running your ignorant comments and you are going to see how many more Dominicans you are going to turn against you
From: Botswana, Seatin here in Gaborone having a drink with Ms Pussy Galore
Wow I do not even even know where to start with the level of ignorance express on some of these posts. But the saddest thing about those who post these comments whether Dominican or Haitian they dont realize it is simply a reflection of their ignorance and usually tend to be less educated and at the bottom of the economic latter being used by the upper echelon of society to achieved a mean. Remember people we are all member of the Human race make love not war Remember what the good book said love thy neighbor, I can testify to that . In my younger years as a young man growing up in New york nothing was more beautiful than when I found my self in the bed sheet of a beautiful
all american blonde from the upper east side,or in the arm of a Hot dominicana from uptown. I was never call you F*^^ haitian during those moments, it was more like Ay Papi I love you soOO much, Specially when I gave them the Ultimate treat the haitian tongue. Ally Khan was once called a N^&**ger, and his
From: Dominican Republic
PatDiamond, we can love our neighbor, but from far away, Haitians aren't even mixed Hispanics like we are!. All we want is to be with our own and stop this massive immigration/invasion. I don't care if you don't like your own Haitian women and are chasing white women like many negroes in USA currently are. Dominican and Haitian relations are only going to improve when Haitians stay out of our business. and these lynchings will only get worse as more Haitians flow into DR. May I ask you,why do you think it is fair to inundate another country with people that are broke and will just turn the host into themselves? FYI-Haitians are now ~12% of DR's population and as they keep invading, this DR/Haiti integration time bomb will explode and we'll be on the verge of civil war. Why don't you want the Haitians back to Haiti and justify this invasion? why don't you put the blame on the Haitian politicians that spend about 90% of the GDP on commodities and 10% on the people? answer me that
From: Botswana, Seatin here in Gaborone having a drink with Ms Pussy Galore
@ ciberdragon
My dear friend I did not want to go there but now I have to get medieval on your ass. In respond to your comments do you really dont want those poor haitian migrant workers in your country anymore, I wonder what would happen if you did not have that source of cheap labor source anymore. Also what would happen if haiti was to close its border with DR Im sure your local market would not have any problem absorbing that 1Billion USD per year trade relation you have with haiti. But you see I do understand it is hard to see the big picture when you are at the bottom fighting for crumbs.
From: Dominican Republic
Here we going again. PajaroDiamond, you better go back to school and learn you economics 101 again.
1. Cheap labor gives you only minor temporary competitive advantage, later leading to inequality and greater economic chaos. It just not worthy.
2. Labor market are flexible and adjustment would benefit Dominican with higher income, even if the initial effect is slower economic growth. No serious economics would discuss against this statement.
3. The nation comes before anything else. Haiti will remain Haiti, DR will disappear if Haitians are not sent back as soon as possible. Enough of this abuse. Let's respect each other from our respective space.
4. Haiti is too poor to be a desired market. That's why nobody cares to invest there. Only will never develop if the count on Haitian purchasing power to move forward. Even Nicaragua has a more attractive market than Haiti. Haiti is just worthless. It's making us waste time when we could concentrate on acquiring other serious markets.
From: Dominican Republic
Patdiamond learn this and learn this quickly.
Humanity IS A SPECIE. And that specie contains at least 5 races (mongoloids, congoloids, capoids, caucasoids, and australoids).
Nature favors diversity (not homogeneity) so as to increase the human specie chances of survival to stresses! If you homogenize the human species, you have put that specie in danger of extinction (i.e. one virus can wiped them out).
Before, we came up with a language, the human specie already had at least 7 races so we found ourselves diversed (shaped by geographic and weather) way before human idealities were formulated to defeat nature's natural response to stresses!
DO NOT DEFEAT NATURE'S LAWS WITH HUMAN IDEALITIES! We must have diversity and we should nupture ethnic and race differences!
From: Dominican Republic
Patdiamond, just walk around Boca Chica or Bavaro or Sozua and you will see Haitian children IMPALED BY EUROPEANS PIPES! Children prostitution is the ultimate shame a tribe like Haiti can express.
Just because there are Dominican prostitutes does not imply we are going to put our guard down and let DR vanishes into nothing with the current nationality dilution coming from Haiti. Nor we are going to cover our eyes to the danger Haiti represent to the entire island! Your logic is faulty and we need to step up the intensity of our response to the Haitian invasion and we must use force against the Haitian so they understand there is a price to a violation!
Our sovereignty and its survival is above any economical, social or political gains that may threaten our sovereignty. We prioritized and nupture the fatherland above any other advantages (including money).
From: Dominican Republic
Bonahan I like your previous posting listing the reasons to your position!
From: Dominican Republic
I don't care if my great great great great.... grandmother was raped, I am no less proud than if I were ensured that it didn't happen. I am pretty sure today blacks rape blacks even more than the conquistadores did, and that today in USA, blacks own the rape stats and 101 white women are raped every day by black men and single digits of black women are raped every year by white men. Who knows if the whites were raping each other during the dark age, hell, rape wasn't a real felony in Haiti up until the mid 1990s...
From: Dominican Republic
And if you expect me to feel ashamed of an ancestor getting raped, then you must also expect swedes, norwegians etc. top feel ashamed because vikings did it long ago.
From: Dominican Republic
To top it off, my matrilineal genes were in Spain in the early 1900s. and so were my paternal genes, the others which are Negroid and Semitic are in between the Y and the X.
And, NO. I don't want those "poor" Haitian immigrants working cheap labors, what would happen if they left? every Dominican would have a job and those greedy capitalists will have to say bye bye to some of the profits. There would be no more violence against Haitians since there would be none anymore.
Here is what you said: "We wants it, we needs it, cut their throats, the precious!"
you also stated: "I gets you be proud and shyet cuz you grandaddy be white and shyet, gnomesayin? you granmammy got raped and we Haitians be da truff!"
From: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo, Mao Valverde & Miami
Check out the join date in all this trolls polluting DT. It seen to me that even in syberspace they can't stay away from DR, I post the question, Is there another website you trolls can go and vent all your frustration, i guess you don't have websites good enough to host your monkey ass.
I'm going to unleash the DT cyberdragon on you, so you better run roaches
From: Dominican Republic
patodiamond, you traveling are keeping you away from haitian reality. haitian prostitutes are well known in certain areas of santiago and samana. they came to take their share of the wealth haitians steal from dominicans. haitians prostitution is widespread. probably your mother is eating from that source of income.
From: Botswana, Seatin here in Gaborone having a drink with Ms Pussy Galore
To Those that I offended I'm truly sorry,but I could not help but to get @ Cyberdragon in regards to his or her comments. See my friends I am Like the eagle on the great seal of the USA in one hand I carry an Olive branch, and in the other the weapons of wars. I come in peace, but if you F%^&ck with me I will tear you a new one. Cyberdragon next time you pick up a fight choose your opponent carefully, sorry if I left you verbally molested. And cyberdragon If you ever see a black G55 with Pau P tag and the jolly roger as a front license plate cruising the Malecone that me, If you are a hot chica we can take it to the Hilton and do it like the animals do on the Discovery channel, and we can blog about it, great way to let these fools see yes we can get alone. YES WE CAN.
From: Dominican Republic
Pat get this quickly! Out of the 2 million Haitian in DR, ~ 700,000 are Haitian children getting bang around! Most hang around the big cities and tourists area. You are not going to hide and/or cover that fact with the Dominican prostitutes! The reason you don't see that many Haitian prostitutes in Europe or Asia is because nobody will give them visa!!!!!
Instead the Haitian vagina are giving birth to 6 or 7 children. These children end up in DR! It is a shame Haitian adults send their children for fornification so they can send money back! That is cowardness!
From: Dominican Republic
Haiti child slavery and prostitution U.S. report
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/reports/iclp/tda2004/haiti.htmAn estimated 2,500 to 3,000 Haitian children are trafficked annually to the Dominican Republic.[1945] According to UNICEF, the civil unrest in 2004 has resulted in an increased number of children trafficked to the Dominican Republic to work as beggars or prostitutes.[1946]
From: Dominican Republic
Jueves 5 de Junio de 2008, Actualizado 1:30:07 PM
Prostitutas haitianas desplazadas en su país Thursday, June 05, 2008
Por: Antonio Santana
Unas 75 prostitutas haitianas han sido repatriadas en los últimos dos meses.
http://www.dominicanoshoy.com/app....e.asp?articleid=7760&zoneid=1Santiago.- Trabajadoras sexuales haitianas indocumentadas que ejercen el oficio en la Plaza Valerio y otros lugares públicos de Santiago, denunciaron que son asediadas por la Policía y las autoridades de Migración en la zona Norte.
Dijeron que muchas de las haitianas han sido repatriadas y que las que aún quedan en Santiago, tienen que ejercer el oficio bajo un estado de nerviosismo, porque a cada momento son asediadas por policías e inspectores de Migración.
From: Dominican Republic
PatoDiamond:
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html That is why I don't trust pretty much any Jew, not for their blood but for what they have been told since they are born. As for Arabs, I don't really have a problem with them as long as they are Christian like some Lebanese and Syrians. But I can assure you I will have a problem with any people that invades DR in huge numbers.
From: Dominican Republic
Bonaham is right!
We must pound Leonel and his administration! They never retaliate every time the U.S. defame DR or when the Haitian devour our sovereignty! So we must kick the PLD until they behave as Patriot and NO MORE PACIFISM!
From: Dominican Republic
WE ARE CHANGING TOPIC! We know why Spain, Portugal, U.K., Egypt, The Assyrians, The Babylonians,and others kicked the Jew out!!! They put greed ahead of nationality and host's religion! (THEY NEVER ASSIMILATE)!
But that is another topic. Please stick to Haiti's interloping into the Caribbean islands!
From: Dominican Republic
LTBG: I wouldn't take on any of those Haitian prostitutes even if they were free. Si algun dia me tiro a un cuero, sera dominicana, Brasilena o puertorriquena pero con el gorrito. de ahora en adelante yo boicotearé cualquier reguera en la que este vendiendo una de esas brujas de h(ape)ti.
From: Dominican Republic
Cyberdragon, as you inferred in previous postings we need to purge DR of people with destructive atittudes and destructive behaviors. The Haitian are clearly eroding the Dominican society and diluting us with their stupid Kompas, Voodoo, Creole and Soccer!
I agree with you! No more supporting prostitution! Let's have normal families with Dominican and set up a normal society!
From: United States Virgin Islands
when did dr get defamed when they call you doping republic.
From: United States Virgin Islands
Is it true the haitian pop in dr is 15 million?
From: Dominican Republic
Por lo menos las brasilenas, colombianas y dominicanas son lindas. Por eso las buscan. Pero una haitiana. Diablo, hay que ser loco, arrematao.
From: Dominican Republic
Truth the U.S. said the DR is a distribution point for both drugs and terrorism knowing that we have a huge problem controlling our border especially the one with Haiti! The U.S. itself does not control its own borders so for them to accuse a poor country for a lack of border control is DEFAMATION! Especially when the U.S. removed its Navy from the Caribbean sea in 2002 to pursuit Middle East tasks and now the whole Caribbean is left to its own devices against the drugs, weapons, and contraband trafficking!
DR has 2 million Haitians. There are more than 4 million Haitians worldwide (1+ million in the U.S., 1+ million between France and Canada, 0.5 million Cuba/Bahamas/Jamaica/Turk & Caicos). Haiti has 9.6 million people. Therefore, the total Haitian population in the world is ~ 14 millions!
From: South Africa
ok Haitian are in general darker than Dominicans, Haitians are in general blacks and Dominicans are in general lighter black what is the problem in my country Dominicans will not even pass for colored, please stop all the crap.
From: Dominican Republic
Who is this clown? He comes states the obvious and claims he's making a piont.
Who was talking about race?
Dominicans are mixed, Haitian blacks. So, who cares? We want them out because they bring too many problems. Their color is irrelevant. Nobody cares if they turn blue. Haitian are just an undesirable presence in DR.
From: United States Virgin Islands
Generose,
I question your numbers because you get them out of back exit . Are there really 14 million worldwide, How many dominicans worldwide? At least .5 million on welfare in washington heights, another 2.5 million in general US population. What about Puerto Rico, 300,000 illegals there passing as PRs. What about the Netherlands, Spain, Italy , Columbia, Cuba, Venezuela.......... ect.
From: South Africa
"Written by: Bonahan48, 10 May 2009 4:21 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Who is this clown? He comes states the obvious and claims he's making a piont.
Who was talking about race?
"
Do not be a jerk, you expect me to know world geopolitics, if there no race issue, then they should deport all illegals immediately that way you are sending the right message, otherwise it will be more difficult and costly as time goes, we have done the same.
From: United States, La Hermandad
Even though Mexicans were in the Western part of the US before the settlers from the North East came to the West, even though Mexicans were the first Californios of the western part of United states, even though the first Mexicans Californios rancheros in the gold rush era were robbed, killed and kicked out of their ranchos and land their ancestors have lived for thousand years, they lost it and that stayed in the past. It is good they moved on with their lives without any rancor.
Now, if USA wants to build a wall to curb immigration, they are in their wrights to do whatever they want, it is their land now. Every country should do what is in their best interest.
If a person comes illegally to USA and does not go thru the right process to become a resident or is not in the process and if INS feels they should be deported, let it be.
When it comes to my compatriots who do not have their best behavior in a foreign land, they should be deported, less embarrassment for us.
From: United States, La Hermandad
If the Haitian savage beast didn’t kill and DICAPITATED his Dominican boss IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE THE HAITIAN SAVAGE BEAST DID IT FIRST, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
If we did have 0ur country with 999,999.00 + 999,999.00 + 2,000.00 Haitians we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Dominican population is not more even 1 % of the American nation population.
The Haitians in Dominican Republic are 20 % of the population.
The Haitians children abandoned and dumped into our soil by your women pass the hundred thousands.
From: United States, La Hermandad
We need to make the business industry to stop using Haitian once for all, they need to increase the salary to the national standard and get those jobs to our poor people in the barrios.
We need to deport all the Ngos that have not done any work for the Dominican people, those needs to go first, other wise the tigeres of the barrios will take care of them too.
We need to force the government to mobilize our military to the border and seal the damn border once for all.
And last we need to put in power the next president that can resolve this Haitian immigration problem for good.
From: United States, La Hermandad
We Dominicans are not going to tolerate this behavior in our country.
Is this the type of gene pool we want in our future generation, savage beasts’ genes?
Do we want the enemy walk among us? Because yesterday was this peaceful hard working Dominican men decapitated first by this Haitian savage beast, tomorrow can be you mother or father, your daughters or sisters, your uncles or grandfather, your kids, or yourself.
So are we going to see down and see what happens?
From: United States, La Hermandad
What USA does to resolved its immigration problem is their business.
What we Dominicans do to resolve our immigration problem is our business.
From: Dominican Republic
poponlaburra, the Obama administration wants the unification of the island, and he is just another mentally biased n199er full of double standards.
From: United States Virgin Islands
PRES. OBAMA BECAME THE LEADER OF THE MOST NATION THE PLANET HAS EVER PRODUCED AGAINST ALL ODDS. Have RESPECT.
hE IS however a president not a magician. The Andes and Mt. Everest have better chance of becoming one than those two countries. You guys clearly have seeded hatred one against the other. UNIFICATION is not an option. I think any talks on that issue will have the haitians eat their president for breakfast and the dominicans will follow by trying to eat theirs for lunch, but I predict have escaped after seing the pictures of his half- eating counterpart.
However your hatred for black people and your paranoia about one government should not color your judgment to call my president the"n" word. I hope you have a chance to reflect on what you've written.
Anyone who calls your president the "n" will get the same responce from me. I am for justice.
From: Dominican Republic
There were no real odds, most gringos now are brain dead multiculturalists so no wonder. And his Jewish puppeteers gave him a lot of coverage in TV portraying him as some hero so no wonder.
From: United States, La Hermandad
Well cyberdragon,
Sadly to say, this incident where a hard working Dominican man got decapitated buy a Haitian. is to our advantage a marking and turning point for Dominican history. To our advantage, this killing was "La gota que rompio el vaso" de last straw, the wake up call for our public, business sector, and politicians. And prove to anyone with the idea of unification, that this will never happen.
From: Dominican Republic
Para mi que la gente se sentira culpable con estos articulos biased que no dicen ni por que el dominicano took care of business. Y asumiran que el dominicano loo hizo simplemente out of xenofobia.
From: United States, Bella Vista,Santiago
hey, antonioj "gang" WHAT!.I'm really looking forward to cuba becoming a democracy because as soon as that happend's you cubes are ganna take some of this weight off are shoulder's. Not only haitians but drugs too, let's see how positive you cubans will be when cuba is infested with ilegal haitians,cuba libre! ROTFL!!!!.
From: Dominican Republic
Milton mass, of course we are prostitutes, fools, murderers, thieves, and don't use proper grammar even our mother tongue. Now, get your Haitians out of my DR!
From: Dominican Republic
The people Columbus killed were Indians and we are not, neither are you. We Dominicans are a mix of three or more races including those Spaniards conquistadores, the ogaboogs and a little bit of Injun. Dominicans who are black call themselves black and those who look Sudanese/Ethiopian are mulattoes. In our society mulatto does not = negro. because of this we can tell who is Haitian and who s Dominican by just looking, and if there is a Dominican who I mistake by Haitian, he can get the hell out of my country(because he isn't)
From: Dominican Republic
I am afraid even white women with curly hair get it straightened. Even black women in North America do too!, heck my mom has wavy-ish straight hair yet she gets it rolled up. If you want to talk about Dominicans crossig the Mona Passage, I would like you to talk about Haitians crossing the "Massacre" River(not referred to as for nothing, alright)
We don't think we are superior, just different like chicken meat is not superior to beef meat, just different. You are a self hating mulatto who thinks he is black yet you talk about us thinking we are white which we don't, we recognize we are by large, mulattoes and be that. Talk about double standard.
From: Dominican Republic
LTDBG: we will have to have a "don't feed the troll" policy in the forums. Ya que sabemos cual es la agenda de ellos y que corre por la ente del haitiano. No son necesarios mas datos de ellos. Ya sabemos lo que necesitamos.
Written by: Bailarin , 11 May 2009 9:31 AM
From: Dominican Republic
Other than Fred Dobbs , You are all a bunch of Mississippi bigots ! lol.
From: United States, La Hermandad
Mitonmass, welcome we know who you are.
Read this from letroudevallegeneroso:
Pat get this quickly! Out of the 2 million Haitian in DR, ~ 700,000 are Haitian children getting bang around! Most hang around the big cities and tourists area. You are not going to hide and/or cover that fact with the Dominican prostitutes! The reason you don't see that many Haitian prostitutes in Europe or Asia is because nobody will give them visa!!!!!
Instead the Haitian vagina are giving birth to 6 or 7 children. These children end up in DR! It is a shame Haitian adults send their children for fornification so they can send money back! That is cowardness!
Haiti child slavery and prostitution U.S. report
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/reports/iclp/tda2004/haiti.htmContinues...
From: United States, La Hermandad
Letroudevallegeneroso said:
Haiti child slavery and prostitution U.S. report
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/reports/iclp/tda2004/haiti.htmAn estimated 2,500 to 3,000 Haitian children are trafficked annually to the Dominican Republic.[1945] According to UNICEF, the civil unrest in 2004 has resulted in an increased number of children trafficked to the Dominican Republic to work as beggars or prostitutes.[1946]
Get a load of that!!!
From: United States, La Hermandad
Letroudevalle said:
Prostitutas haitianas desplazadas en su país Thursday, June 05, 2008
Por: Antonio Santana
Unas 75 prostitutas haitianas han sido repatriadas en los últimos dos meses.
http://www.dominicanoshoy.com/app....e.asp?articleid=7760&zoneid=1Santiago.- Trabajadoras sexuales haitianas indocumentadas que ejercen el oficio en la Plaza Valerio y otros lugares públicos de Santiago, denunciaron que son asediadas por la Policía y las autoridades de Migración en la zona Norte.
Dijeron que muchas de las haitianas han sido repatriadas y que las que aún quedan en Santiago, tienen que ejercer el oficio bajo un estado de nerviosismo, porque a cada momento son asediadas por policías e inspectores de Migración.
Wao,Wao,Wao!!!
From: Dominican Republic
Santiago.- Trabajadoras sexuales haitianas indocumentadas que ejercen el oficio en la Plaza Valerio y otros lugares públicos de Santiago, denunciaron que son asediadas por la Policía y las autoridades de Migración en la zona Norte.
Habrase visto. Hay gente puerca. Acostarse con una haitiana. A'co....A'co
From: Dominican Republic
ni regaladas que fueran!
Written by: Pepe32, 15 May 2009 9:51 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Que asco..practicando la bestialidad!!
Written by: Pepe32, 18 May 2009 10:38 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Why didn't the zookeepers control the wild beasts?
They feed the animals in the zoo called Haiti but they need to control them or at least put some calming agents in the feed.
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And understand that any thinking person must deplore the violence here and in Haiti.
This petty altercation is only of great benefit to the elites who have interest in seeing both parts of the island so divided. The Haitian elite is doing business with the Dominican elite. They all are making worthy money together, and they have common interest.
But the point is, by far both side of the island are fighting like wild cats and dogs, higher can be both elites’ economic profits. Dominicans and Haitians are fooled by those extremist elites. This blame game all across both countries is unnecessary, thus we need to understand what’s exactly at stake here…
Dominicans and Haitians need to speak in a united voice against racial discrimination all across the island. We all need to work on legislation to fix the immigration system that will hurt us mightily…
Let's deport them all.
Now it is very clear the WALL MUST BE BUILT!! ASAP!
http://www.wntube.net/play.php?vid=1873
That video is also my prediction for DR within the next decade.
I contacted some medias in Port-au-Prince (HAITI), and the information related to the death of two Dominican women is WRONG and WRONG… We should understand that there’s a group of people (Dominicans and Haitians) who is ready to seize any opportunity to flare up any type of dissension between Haiti and DR. We need to be clever than those who are always working on dividing both countries.
Haitians and Dominicans, stay cool… We should be SMARTER than the extremist Haitians and Dominicans. May GOD bless you all…
in order to find an understanding between the two nation, one nation needs to first act like one.
what i mean by that is the lack of governance in haiti, your ideas would work fine is haiti will come up with something that resembles and army or a police corp.
Your conspiracy theory of elite societies running the masses against each other is nothing but hogwash. The haitian nation should take responsabilities for their corrupt government and if any agreement is going to be made, first they need to take back the more than 2 millions ilegal hatians in DR territory.
And we totally understand what's a stake here. the future of DR, how can we survive when we carry such a heavy load of iresponsabilities?
http://www.mibazaar.com/corruptcountries/
you can go anywhere in the world and see neighbouring countries that were former enemies now having a harmonious relationship but here the lower intelligent classes try to establish and maintain hatred and division where as those with a more mature mind try to establish a peaceful and harmonious relationship.
I want Haitians and Dominicans to stop the blame game. The immigration issue must be discussed at a higher level. We don’t need expeditious justice. Both governments have to work to secure their border and to fix the broken immigration system.
It’s not going to be easy. But we need to start discussing future legislation. Haitians and Dominicans need to find a current compromise. Both governments should engage in serious talk to assuage any possible immigration issue.
From: United States
Bravo Don Manuel your theory is good for rationalists.DR and Haiti are two different culture
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What does different culture have to do with what Don manuel have eloquently stated above, russian cooperate with china and so forth...
Ignorance is a cancer. Believe me or not, the Elite is banking on that.
Viva Haiti, viva DR.
From: Dominican Republic
This article reminds me of this song:
http://www.wntube.net/play.php?vid=1873
That video is also my prediction for DR within the next decade.
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This is a white supremacist site group if you share the philosophy... think again you may find yourself on the wrong side cyber
Two weeks ago I visited the neighborhood of Washington Heights, New York, with my fellow fulbrigthers. I’ve met a lot of educated Dominicans who clearly understand the issues between Haiti and RD. We need to be more open one to each other and discuss faithfully about our people’s interests.
We need to promote more positive energy in both sides of the island. A basic dynamic of energy is that we attract who we are. The more positive energy we give off, the more we’ll magnetize to us. It works like this: violence attracts violence, happiness attracts happiness, love attracts love, and ... Peace attracts Peace...
The haters hate you also. Ignore them and let's all work together to make this a better situation.
Dominicans eat grandules , Haitians do not ?
Dominicans eat goat meat, yuga,dirnk rhum and morir soriendo,assit to cock fights and Haitians don't
Dominicans brown their chicken,eat habituela con arroz y los Haitianos no
What do you eat ? truffle and caviar ?
No wonder you think that Alejandro, Williams,Leonel,Pena Gomez,Ulises,Johnny Ventura are Haitians
“Whoever can see through all fear will always be safe”, Tao-Te Ching.
As we go through, we need to be aware of our dark side and try to heal it. Also we have to learn from our mistakes. I think it’s pretty easy for Haiti and DR to work together. It’s not an exaggeration to say that both countries had never have a profound disagreement, or indisputable and unsolved problems.
Immigration is a complex issue, but it can be solved if we play by the rules. We have to provide those who are living in Dominican Republic with legal documents, and dissuade those who want to cross the border illegally from doing so. In fact, Haitian and Dominican authorities must work together and do not let space for extremists and corrupt businesses who are currently reigning on both sides of the border.
Yes Yes rid NYC of these Dominican pests!! Lie-onelly is waiting to give all a 10,000 check
Well, we need to be aware of our dark side and try to heal it. Also we have to learn from our mistakes. I think it’s pretty easy for Haiti and DR to work together. It’s not an exaggeration to say that both countries had never have a profound disagreement, or indisputable and unsolved problems.
Immigration is a complex issue, but it can be solved if we play by the rules. We have to provide those who are living in Dominican Republic with legal documents, and dissuade those who want to cross the border illegally from doing so. In fact, Haitian and Dominican authorities must work together and do not let space for extremists and corrupt businesses who are currently reigning on both sides of the border.
You need a girlfriend and some good friends LOL welcome to the site. We all love you too.
that's more like a gov't affair, let them deal with it.
Tell me naive or stupid but reality is DR and Haiti are so different not only cultural but in organization of the state .In the caribeean Haiti is special.VIVE LA DIFFERENCE is the logo to invite visitors.It's MAGIC.Sorry i just wake up.
It is criminal like you like you who go to the Dominican Republic to kill Dominicans and think that you can get away the murder.
As you can see the Haitian and Dominican authorities will not save you when Dominicans grab your stupid ass and chop that nonsense from you mouth.
turn very violent since the arrival of jean bertrand aristide as president
of haiti, again since we share the same island we must get along if not we will have a very bleak future,
Immigration is a complex issue, but it can be solved if we play by the rules. We have to provide those who are living in Dominican Republic with legal documents, and dissuade those who want to cross the border illegally from doing so. In fact, Haitian and Dominican authorities must work together and do not let space for extremists and corrupt businesses who are currently reigning on both sides of the border.
brother back to haiti and make them work the land.haitian need to respect other country imigration law.
Globalization is the key word.Eureka.
and i said let's talk about what you haitians need to do in order for your poor masses to avoid been abuse in the DR and other places like Jamaica and the bahamas, which by the way never gets mentioned when the government of this islands openly descriminate against haitians, in the bahamas they have no rights whatsoever not even to go school.
Even press Obama has failed to sign legislation halting the mass deportation of illegal haitians from the US. It seen to me their patriotism only come out when the violence is done by a dominican, which feeds the stereotype of haitians been a bunch of ungrateful children that bites the hand that feed you, let's not forget that if wasn't for DR been somehow a more prosperous country haitians would be eating each other right now.
And when you read the comments made by malpropete clown you see why DR and Haiti will never get alone.
From: United States, NYC
i wanna see what the ignorent haitian posters have to say about this, what's ganna be the excuse to justify this.these ppl are behaving like primitive savages and even killed 2 dominican women that had nothing to do with this.DEPORT THEM ALL!!! and build a 15 foot wall and lock it down.
So now they are the one , who are primitive savages / what about the U.S soldier who just beat up the illegal Dominican upstate New-York ; should we justify this Soldier Cowardness.
There is cowards everywhere As a haitian man who have a lots of respect and love for my Neighbooring nations . I opposed and condem such act if it's true .
For years we have Dominicans living there as normal people , this stupid Government at home should punish those cowards who took advantage of the last event .
As haitian I opologized to the Family of those victimized for such barbaric act of my fellow countryman .
However XxMolotovCocktail
From: United States
Well said .
But a lot of Haitians or Dominicans doesn't even dare to learn that part of themselves . However it will take a Haitians Domicans president of Santo Domingo to lead us there .
Which will be just the same as Obama presidency to america -
Bravo AdrianCabreja, 9 May 2009 12:19 PM
From: United States
The selective Haitian respond is not done by mistake. It has a delivered intention. Like Trinitario said, the U.S. is about to deport 30,000 Haitian in Miami and the Haitian would not even protest in front of the U.S. embassy in Port of Pigs.
We must reciprocate the Haitian action so that they don't interpret our lack of action as "fear" or "impotence." Our Government is being forced to be defensive and pacifist (by the internationals) and this atittude is eroding our sovereingty and our society!
We can not unite! The addition of failure to poor performance leads to failure! DR has prospered way before the Haitian began dumping their inresponsibilities and failures to DR.
In Africa, of course the different tribes will not merge to the obedience of the political drawn lines (like in Nigeria and Cameroon). But also there is the threat of the muslims who are conducting genocide to implant their religion!
By 2020, the muslims will be the majority in France, Spain, and probably in the U.K. The Muslims are the next biggest threat to the world (a different topic)!
BTW, Generoso is right, the Muslims are coming, and nothing can stop them!
For what I read the Partido Reformista Social Cristiano are the only ones talking about the subject.
I think a type of "El Doctor" needs to come to power.
Too bad there is no Researches Menguele type among our politicians.
i can also predit, that this situation can also be use by politician to get elected into office in DR. that idea scare me, cause we be going to war and this time we Dominican we be taking over the whole nation of Haiti.
All I see from the haitian trolls is the race card and the prostitute card.
sorry ass people, not wonder every country they go has a mass deportation program in place to deal with this ungrateful people, they all come out trashing DR over an isolated incident because of the barbarism a haitian national committed against a dominican, but don't worry the DR have laws and justice and the dominican man that decapitated this haitian man will have to answer for hais crime, not so much for the haitian murderer that is currently hiding in haiti where there is no law and order, his crime will go unpunished.
yeah letroudeballeGeneroso the trolls don't wanna talk about how their migrants are treated in the bahamas and jamaica when they arrive.
The development also worries U.S. officials, who fear it might be a forerunner of a new surge of Haitians trying to get into the United States to escape their nation's dismal economy and political instability. Bahamian authorities estimate 60,000 Haitians are living illegally among the island chain's 360,000 citizens. The military, which has increased patrols at sea, says 4,220 Haitians were caught last year - - the highest number in a decade and nearly 50 percent more than were stopped in 2001. Over the years, some Bahamians welcomed the Haitians as a source of cheap labor, but there is a growing chorus demanding that the government crack down and send the migrants back home. "They use our hospitals, our social system, they clog up our schools and take away from Bahamians," said Theodore Roberts, a 31- year-old technician. " co
What this ungrateful trolls don't understand is that despite all the bullshit they say they experience in DR , we are the most welcoming and tolerant nation they ever go, if it wasn't for the DR compassionate people your country would be even worst than there is right now.
keep talking about our prostitutes, our yolas going to PR, our people in the states, in the end 100 years from now DR still will be a green beautiful island nation and haiti a dry desert hole, why? because we care about our country and you don't. And it will be like that for the next 100 years.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20030414/ai_n14547761/
don't hate, APPRECIATE.
OR WE'RE GOING TO GET BAHAMIAN ON YOU
why don't you take the opportunity that you're in Haiti and go by the haitian parliament and tell those good for nothing haitian politicians to stop making complains about DR and do some work and forget about Aristide, tell them to turn the page and forget about the fake priest dictator wanna be.
And start working toward a better republic, a republic that provides for it citizens so they don't have to go to DR and get decapitated by an angry mob.
If you go make your statement and don't stay for long or they will press charges against you for spying for the DR government and burn a tire around your neck.
Trinitario, the above comment would be true only if we clean the house. DR is suffering serious problems and it's likely to get worse unless of rid the patria from this dark cancer.
Get it off your chest my friend and let's hope you feel better and get your composure back again, pork ahora esta reventa de rabia mi hito.
Manuel focus your energy on Haiti! They are the source of the problems! DR is just downstream of the Haitian's problem outsourcing!
However i must tell you i have a lot of respect for the DR what they have done with their country
and we haitian r distroying our country with fighting with each other,All i could say it is in the best interested of the DR to unsure stability in Haiti because bad press from Haiti is not good for the DR AND THA COULD CAUSE SEVERE PROBLEM FOR THE ISLAND,OF HISPANIOLA.
All countries are Haitian fatigue. Estan Hartos, todo el mundo esta arto de Haiti. The only group that is pro-Haiti is soem Ngos, if they have power, I am mother Theresa.
that is all you guys are doing :create a nuisance in someone else country and talk about you past.
your present condition as the poorest, more indisciplined, vain , turbulent singular little nation in the world is the consequence of your bloody past."Koupe tet , boule kay"Chop head and burn down houses"
this is the same bestial reflex that you have began to display in the Dominicans Republic
and so far the Dominicans have shown compassion and restrain for listing to your ignorant comments.making threats,spitting insults and yet they accept your asses in the country and still feed you ,give you medical care and protect you.
where were you when cedras,michel francois,and the stincking elite were chopping your brothers heads.
just behaving like the usual coward,hiding under your bed
all american blonde from the upper east side,or in the arm of a Hot dominicana from uptown. I was never call you F*^^ haitian during those moments, it was more like Ay Papi I love you soOO much, Specially when I gave them the Ultimate treat the haitian tongue. Ally Khan was once called a N^&**ger, and his
My dear friend I did not want to go there but now I have to get medieval on your ass. In respond to your comments do you really dont want those poor haitian migrant workers in your country anymore, I wonder what would happen if you did not have that source of cheap labor source anymore. Also what would happen if haiti was to close its border with DR Im sure your local market would not have any problem absorbing that 1Billion USD per year trade relation you have with haiti. But you see I do understand it is hard to see the big picture when you are at the bottom fighting for crumbs.
1. Cheap labor gives you only minor temporary competitive advantage, later leading to inequality and greater economic chaos. It just not worthy.
2. Labor market are flexible and adjustment would benefit Dominican with higher income, even if the initial effect is slower economic growth. No serious economics would discuss against this statement.
3. The nation comes before anything else. Haiti will remain Haiti, DR will disappear if Haitians are not sent back as soon as possible. Enough of this abuse. Let's respect each other from our respective space.
4. Haiti is too poor to be a desired market. That's why nobody cares to invest there. Only will never develop if the count on Haitian purchasing power to move forward. Even Nicaragua has a more attractive market than Haiti. Haiti is just worthless. It's making us waste time when we could concentrate on acquiring other serious markets.
Humanity IS A SPECIE. And that specie contains at least 5 races (mongoloids, congoloids, capoids, caucasoids, and australoids).
Nature favors diversity (not homogeneity) so as to increase the human specie chances of survival to stresses! If you homogenize the human species, you have put that specie in danger of extinction (i.e. one virus can wiped them out).
Before, we came up with a language, the human specie already had at least 7 races so we found ourselves diversed (shaped by geographic and weather) way before human idealities were formulated to defeat nature's natural response to stresses!
DO NOT DEFEAT NATURE'S LAWS WITH HUMAN IDEALITIES! We must have diversity and we should nupture ethnic and race differences!
Just because there are Dominican prostitutes does not imply we are going to put our guard down and let DR vanishes into nothing with the current nationality dilution coming from Haiti. Nor we are going to cover our eyes to the danger Haiti represent to the entire island! Your logic is faulty and we need to step up the intensity of our response to the Haitian invasion and we must use force against the Haitian so they understand there is a price to a violation!
Our sovereignty and its survival is above any economical, social or political gains that may threaten our sovereignty. We prioritized and nupture the fatherland above any other advantages (including money).
And, NO. I don't want those "poor" Haitian immigrants working cheap labors, what would happen if they left? every Dominican would have a job and those greedy capitalists will have to say bye bye to some of the profits. There would be no more violence against Haitians since there would be none anymore.
Here is what you said: "We wants it, we needs it, cut their throats, the precious!"
you also stated: "I gets you be proud and shyet cuz you grandaddy be white and shyet, gnomesayin? you granmammy got raped and we Haitians be da truff!"
I'm going to unleash the DT cyberdragon on you, so you better run roaches
Instead the Haitian vagina are giving birth to 6 or 7 children. These children end up in DR! It is a shame Haitian adults send their children for fornification so they can send money back! That is cowardness!
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/reports/iclp/tda2004/haiti.htm
An estimated 2,500 to 3,000 Haitian children are trafficked annually to the Dominican Republic.[1945] According to UNICEF, the civil unrest in 2004 has resulted in an increased number of children trafficked to the Dominican Republic to work as beggars or prostitutes.[1946]
Prostitutas haitianas desplazadas en su país Thursday, June 05, 2008
Por: Antonio Santana
Unas 75 prostitutas haitianas han sido repatriadas en los últimos dos meses.
http://www.dominicanoshoy.com/app....e.asp?articleid=7760&zoneid=1
Santiago.- Trabajadoras sexuales haitianas indocumentadas que ejercen el oficio en la Plaza Valerio y otros lugares públicos de Santiago, denunciaron que son asediadas por la Policía y las autoridades de Migración en la zona Norte.
Dijeron que muchas de las haitianas han sido repatriadas y que las que aún quedan en Santiago, tienen que ejercer el oficio bajo un estado de nerviosismo, porque a cada momento son asediadas por policías e inspectores de Migración.
We must pound Leonel and his administration! They never retaliate every time the U.S. defame DR or when the Haitian devour our sovereignty! So we must kick the PLD until they behave as Patriot and NO MORE PACIFISM!
But that is another topic. Please stick to Haiti's interloping into the Caribbean islands!
I agree with you! No more supporting prostitution! Let's have normal families with Dominican and set up a normal society!
DR has 2 million Haitians. There are more than 4 million Haitians worldwide (1+ million in the U.S., 1+ million between France and Canada, 0.5 million Cuba/Bahamas/Jamaica/Turk & Caicos). Haiti has 9.6 million people. Therefore, the total Haitian population in the world is ~ 14 millions!
Who was talking about race?
Dominicans are mixed, Haitian blacks. So, who cares? We want them out because they bring too many problems. Their color is irrelevant. Nobody cares if they turn blue. Haitian are just an undesirable presence in DR.
I question your numbers because you get them out of back exit . Are there really 14 million worldwide, How many dominicans worldwide? At least .5 million on welfare in washington heights, another 2.5 million in general US population. What about Puerto Rico, 300,000 illegals there passing as PRs. What about the Netherlands, Spain, Italy , Columbia, Cuba, Venezuela.......... ect.
From: Dominican Republic
Who is this clown? He comes states the obvious and claims he's making a piont.
Who was talking about race?
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Do not be a jerk, you expect me to know world geopolitics, if there no race issue, then they should deport all illegals immediately that way you are sending the right message, otherwise it will be more difficult and costly as time goes, we have done the same.
Now, if USA wants to build a wall to curb immigration, they are in their wrights to do whatever they want, it is their land now. Every country should do what is in their best interest.
If a person comes illegally to USA and does not go thru the right process to become a resident or is not in the process and if INS feels they should be deported, let it be.
When it comes to my compatriots who do not have their best behavior in a foreign land, they should be deported, less embarrassment for us.
If we did have 0ur country with 999,999.00 + 999,999.00 + 2,000.00 Haitians we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Dominican population is not more even 1 % of the American nation population.
The Haitians in Dominican Republic are 20 % of the population.
The Haitians children abandoned and dumped into our soil by your women pass the hundred thousands.
We need to deport all the Ngos that have not done any work for the Dominican people, those needs to go first, other wise the tigeres of the barrios will take care of them too.
We need to force the government to mobilize our military to the border and seal the damn border once for all.
And last we need to put in power the next president that can resolve this Haitian immigration problem for good.
Is this the type of gene pool we want in our future generation, savage beasts’ genes?
Do we want the enemy walk among us? Because yesterday was this peaceful hard working Dominican men decapitated first by this Haitian savage beast, tomorrow can be you mother or father, your daughters or sisters, your uncles or grandfather, your kids, or yourself.
So are we going to see down and see what happens?
What we Dominicans do to resolve our immigration problem is our business.
hE IS however a president not a magician. The Andes and Mt. Everest have better chance of becoming one than those two countries. You guys clearly have seeded hatred one against the other. UNIFICATION is not an option. I think any talks on that issue will have the haitians eat their president for breakfast and the dominicans will follow by trying to eat theirs for lunch, but I predict have escaped after seing the pictures of his half- eating counterpart.
However your hatred for black people and your paranoia about one government should not color your judgment to call my president the"n" word. I hope you have a chance to reflect on what you've written.
Anyone who calls your president the "n" will get the same responce from me. I am for justice.
Sadly to say, this incident where a hard working Dominican man got decapitated buy a Haitian. is to our advantage a marking and turning point for Dominican history. To our advantage, this killing was "La gota que rompio el vaso" de last straw, the wake up call for our public, business sector, and politicians. And prove to anyone with the idea of unification, that this will never happen.
We don't think we are superior, just different like chicken meat is not superior to beef meat, just different. You are a self hating mulatto who thinks he is black yet you talk about us thinking we are white which we don't, we recognize we are by large, mulattoes and be that. Talk about double standard.
Read this from letroudevallegeneroso:
Pat get this quickly! Out of the 2 million Haitian in DR, ~ 700,000 are Haitian children getting bang around! Most hang around the big cities and tourists area. You are not going to hide and/or cover that fact with the Dominican prostitutes! The reason you don't see that many Haitian prostitutes in Europe or Asia is because nobody will give them visa!!!!!
Instead the Haitian vagina are giving birth to 6 or 7 children. These children end up in DR! It is a shame Haitian adults send their children for fornification so they can send money back! That is cowardness!
Haiti child slavery and prostitution U.S. report
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/reports/iclp/tda2004/haiti.htm
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Haiti child slavery and prostitution U.S. report
http://www.dol.gov/ilab/media/reports/iclp/tda2004/haiti.htm
An estimated 2,500 to 3,000 Haitian children are trafficked annually to the Dominican Republic.[1945] According to UNICEF, the civil unrest in 2004 has resulted in an increased number of children trafficked to the Dominican Republic to work as beggars or prostitutes.[1946]
Get a load of that!!!
Prostitutas haitianas desplazadas en su país Thursday, June 05, 2008
Por: Antonio Santana
Unas 75 prostitutas haitianas han sido repatriadas en los últimos dos meses.
http://www.dominicanoshoy.com/app....e.asp?articleid=7760&zoneid=1
Santiago.- Trabajadoras sexuales haitianas indocumentadas que ejercen el oficio en la Plaza Valerio y otros lugares públicos de Santiago, denunciaron que son asediadas por la Policía y las autoridades de Migración en la zona Norte.
Dijeron que muchas de las haitianas han sido repatriadas y que las que aún quedan en Santiago, tienen que ejercer el oficio bajo un estado de nerviosismo, porque a cada momento son asediadas por policías e inspectores de Migración.
Wao,Wao,Wao!!!
Habrase visto. Hay gente puerca. Acostarse con una haitiana. A'co....A'co
They feed the animals in the zoo called Haiti but they need to control them or at least put some calming agents in the feed.