allegedly killed ?? murder is a bit more than alleged .

Watch out all folks in Dom. Rep. I was in Dom. Rep. last 3 weeks, and I heard 2 cases of my friends (they are local Dominican) had been robbed by gun men.

The crime rate is rocketing high, yet I haven't see any proposals given to the public to minimize the crime by the LF's Govt.

Bella Vista is one of the safer parts of the metropolitan area of the capital. Appears that this type of crime is progressivly getting worse, not only toward extranjeros, but anyone using ATM. Be very careful when withdrawing money.

juango, FYI
they did not take any money from him.They waited for half a hour for him
No one knows what type of business he is conducting in the country
he is an engineer but not practicing his trade.
Read el Diario libre y el Lstin Diario for more infos.

Violence, drugs, weapons, contraband, millions of foreigners, environmental destruction, 10 million people, etc.

Is this acceptable to you? What level of social illness are you willing to accept before you say enough and take this system out? Are you willing to have family members to be victims of this "Hell"?

Why aren't you, guys, BLASTING this republic for allowing all these crap? Do you think this is a fair price we must pay just to say "We have a Republic" or "we have elections" or "we have a free and movable capitalism"?

You guys are a whole bunch of zombies, brainwashed, idealistics, and not different from lower life forms. Even our white blood cells will not tolerate this kind of damage to our bodies!

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Haiti: The new victims of organized crime
It looks like the criminals’ thugs have found another way to fill their safe. Lately, the customers of the commercials banks from the metropolitan area have become their preferred targets. Only from during this week, more than ten cases have been counted in the area. A situation that should attract the judicial and the law enforcement authorities as well as the bankers’ attention.
Minutes later after completing a transaction in a commercial banque, the colonel Philippe Carrenard, an ex deputy commander in the National Prison has been, chased and attacked by bandits who was after the money he just draw from the bank. He hasn’t been able to escape from the money hungry attackers who did not hesitate to put two bullets in his trunk.

Numero uno (1)

When I told you that the two nations are facing the same problems, would you pay attention now? In fact, the two countries are so socially and economically intertwined that crime resolution and investigation must be a joint venture between the two governments. Those scoundrels are working in network that span the entire island and unless the two governments put their resources together to fight them, we ain’t going anywhere. Below is an incomplete article from the Le Nouvelliste Newspaper. I take upon myself to translate from French to English. Take a look at it and you’ll find out that it is exactly what is happening in Haiti. The one million dollars question now is: Are we the people going to let our governments watch imperturbably the bandits ruin our lives on top of all the economic and social misery we are confronting? You tell me.

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This kind of insecurity is not exclusively bound to the Capital city itself, it has spread to all the metropolitan area of Port-au-Prince. Let’s highlight some cases as an example:
• a young woman who had just conclude a transaction in a bank in the downtown area has been attacked by bandits who grabbed everything she had redrawn.
• From a mere 300 feet of a commercial bank, in the Carrefour Feuilles borough, a young woman has not been able to escape the ambush from the bandits who were waiting for her.
• After witdrawing a large amount of money in a very known bank in Petion-ville which is another borough of Port-au-Prince, a young man has been attacked by armed men and dispossessed of the money he was carrying in a bag.

The victims become more and more numerous from day to day, and this problem has taken such a dimension that some people are getting spookier and spookier to go to the bank.

The way I see it, all those robberies are inside jobs. It is easy to imagine a network of scoundrels that identify big cash withdrawers and phone the waiting bandits and give them details description of the innocent victims. If this trend shoud have to continue, I think we would reach a time where every single one of us will be obliged to wrap ourselves with body armour and ak 47 to go get our money from the bank, and still, it won't be a guaranty that we will be safer.

oupala why do you reply to all the crazy notions put forward by A generoso ..they are always raving , irrelevant , and racist

Robbery and murder is hardly unique to DR.... We have been here nearly 5 years and find this far far safer than Miami. Usually there is an ulterior motive, or one is in an obviously bad area. As to Haiti... we were there with 9 other gringos, for only about 10 minutes, when all decided to get out FAST

no sabemos todavia que si fue un robo o un ajuste de cuentas segun las informaciones,
Then hold on your fire !
I reread the article and I have not seen the word Haiti.
You have introduced Haiti just to start the usual insults spitting !

Ricardolito,

Don't be misjudging. I haven't answer to anyone in particular, my comments were for general diffusion. Besides, when I have someone particular in mind, I never hesitate to add his pseudo to my comments. I simply said that the problem is a pan island one, and is not only bound to the Dominican Republic or Haiti. That is the reason why I have posted an article from the Haitian newspaper Le Nouvelliste (Haiti: the new victims of organized crimes) that I have translated into English for the sake of a good understanding.
I hope you get me now.

oupala I invite you to check YOUTUBE and do a research on la fiesta de polo.
This will enrich your mind and make your arguments stronger .
See I am no really that bad man you think I am.
I happen to understand similarities betwwen both cultures : Haitian and Dominican cultures
Let me konw what you have benefited from this research.

oupala read instead FIESTA DE PALO INSTEAD OF FIESTA DE POLO

allumineuse could yougive us your feeling about la fiesta de palo or is it a an aspect of the Dominican culture you would rather sweep under the rug and wish it has never existed ?

You will not be aable to ignore this challenge.

My friend etiennc01

As a kid I did attend something like that in Dajabon when my father was hooked with a beautiful domincan woman named Maria cara or carla I don't remember exactly the last part of the name. I saw him drinking strong Haitian and Dominican raw rum with his spanish friends, bet on cock fight with them. In those times there wasn't Dominicans or Haitians, there were only people living in peace and intermarrying and breeding. The only difference was that we Haitians were speaking creole among us and spanish with our dominican counterpart.
I wonder why and where have all those good days gone?
Suffice to tell you that the same way I can't hate the Haitian mulatto for whatever bad deed he has committed and will commit is the same way I can't hate the Dominicans. However, believe me, as soon as, one of the two will piss me off, either he breaks my face or I'll break his, and that's the way true family members behave. So, you little cousins better be prepared be

pissing us off, for the same way we will be ready to bleed for you is the same way we will get hard on you when you try to harm or humiliate us. You know fairly well that if we represented a danger for you, a guerilla war would have been raging long time ago in your mountains. Look at our nationals and yours of haitian ancestry living on your territory, they are taking everything on the chin, but I am pretty sure that they are hurt inside themselves, not only by your sarcasms and your racist behaviour, but also because they are afraid of being marginalized in their own country.
I am not and will never be a hatemonger neither a racist, I will simply keep defending the voiceless and the desenfrenchised whatever and wherever they will be on this island.

I still don't understand what this article has to do with Haiti...

Santana33,

Then the term analogy is not part of your vocabulary. I said that what they say in this article is also happening in Haiti. So, in order to dismantle the network of scoundrels operating all over the island, the two governments must put their act together. They must share intelligence, track and hunt those murderous bastards, prosecute them and slam them with lengthy prison time. what is so difficult to understand?

Santana I agree with you 100% ..this article was about a murder of a guy at an ATM in a good area of the capital and the authorities have not notified Bulgaria.the inference in the last paragraph is that if a country does not have a diplomatic representation here , then if one of their citizens is murdered, that country is not notified at once..even though phones and faxes and the internet are in regular use here.

I wonder what really happened? I used ATMs in Santo-Domingo and the small towns whenever I visit with no fear.

The only country in the world where there are murders it is the Dominican Republic.

crack cocaine......

there is your guilty party...

Sounds weird to me....I used the ATM 4 out of the 5 days I was there last month in Santiago, Capital, Mamey and even San Francisco. Lets remember there are a lot of crooked people hiding out in DR and doing shady things there too...Sad to see so much violence every day, but its part of the game we are playing now.

Sajomero,

We don't have to play that game my friend. Due to the lack of government protection in Haiti right now, I think the people are developping quite an efficient way of keeping their remote regions safe: if they catch a criminal alive they give him to the police (according to governement rules), but they make sure, however, that he is dead before the cops arrive, and believe me, since they have decided to adopt such tactic, some areas of our country now are quite empty of criminals.

I was at an ATM in Santiago and the watchman locked the door and said that I had to give him a tip. Could you believe that?

Oupala,

I get your analogy but how is Haiti, a foreign sovereign nation, supposed to be even part of our solution when it comes to criminality? I highly doubt the DR needs Haitian cooperation for that. Besides,I have never heard of networks of scoundrels operating on both sides of the island to rob and kill - unless they are Haitian. Criminal partnerships between our side and your side surely exist in the drug trade - so what help could Haiti truly provide?

I like it, Everyone is fliyng right..
It is a nice tand wonderful day today.
Good morning roso !
oupala be nice !

allunineuse the coward , where are you hiding ?
allumineuse i haveasked you to tell us your feeling about LA FIESTA DE PALO .
Is It one aspect of the Dominican culture you would rather ignore and wish it has never existed ?
Please no profanities !

Santana33,

I am going to try with you once more, but before that I'd like you to tell me if you know what is Interpol and what part it plays in crime fighting around the world. If you don't know of give me the incorrect answer then, I'll give up on you and move along.

Dominican Media: Murdered Bulgarian Not Killed for Money

The Bulgarian engineer, Konstantino Alexandro, who was murdered last week in the Dominican Republic, was allegedly not killed for the money he was carrying.

Santo Domingo newspaper, El Nacional, reported that Alexandro was carrying 22 500 Dominican Pesos, USD 203, a golden ornament and a gun but none of them were taken by the attackers. El Nacional cited Police Deputy Director, Cesar Ramirez.

Workers at the car wash at which Alexandro had left his car were witnesses to the event as he was attacked just after he took money out of a local ATM. They reported that the attackers and Alexandro seemed to know each other.

The report concluded that it is not yet clear what Alexandro was doing in the Dominican Republic.

El Caribe stated that his body is currently in the National Medical Institute and has not been looked for by any relatives or friends. They added that the autopsy results are due later Monday.

Ten

maybe he was an INVESTOR, Mr Dobbs.

Obviously an investor .....although lately one risks life and limb just wearing the target of foreigner with money when out and about.....Bella Vista Mall is a rather strange location for this kind of robbery which it probably was not ....maybe he was dating Belkis and you did it

Lets clean up the country, lets lock up all these criminals before they commits their bad deeds on people and tourists, and force labor on them make them build the border wall.

the investor or the guys who killed him?

I happen to know some one that knows some one that actualy talked to the Bulgarian engineer B4 he was clipped . This person works for an optic lens store in that mall where he went to inquire about glasses. She said that gun shots were not heard.........If so, this is alot bigger than anyone thinks it is......I'm sure there are cameras in this mall and the culprits should be identified, unless it was a gov. hit..................The use of SILENCERS!!!! This storie is to deep to understand . We will never learn the truth.

Oupala,

Yes, I know what Interpol is but that is irrelevant. You suggested we need help from the Haitian government to help fight the "network of scoundrels" that commit crimes in both countries.

What we need is real policework to be done in the DR. If we can't get that right, how can we ever effectively cooperate with any outside "help"?

As to your comment, I do not believe any crime-fighting cooperation from Haiti could exist even if we decided we needed such a thing. I do not believe such "network of scoundrels" exists unless they are Haitians - and we all know the solution to that.

Previously Quote By Generoso (Why aren't you, guys, BLASTING this republic for allowing all these crap? Do you think this is a fair price we must pay just to say "We have a Republic" or "we have elections" or "we have a free and movable capitalism"?)



Generoso, and probably you won't get any answer for your question. These people they don't have a clue of what goes on in Latin America, this is not only happening in the Dominican republic, it's also happening in El Salvador, Mexico, Colombia, ETC. You see Generoso, there is a trend here. This is how the economy of a country can get destabilize, and paises like Dominican republic stay on the same rank of 3rd world countries or banana countries like we're called for ever. Now ask your self who, where, why?

Previously Quote By PoponLaBurra (Lets clean up the country, lets lock up all these criminals before they commits their bad deeds on people and tourists, and force labor on them make them build the border wall.)



PoponLaBurra, This is how they do it in Cuba, and it's Working. So why don't we implemented in the Dominican republic and the rest of Latin America. And a few years you'll see the result.

El Caballo The Fred C Doubt! oye Fred yo Quiero Fidel y Chavez en Mi Pais so we can bring a few Dominicans in law enforcement like me so we can start rounding up people like you to make the country environmentally friendly again