Toronto.– Another Cuban baseball player has gone missing in Edmonton, tournament officials
said Saturday.
The Cuban coach and team confirmed through team liaison Phyllis Pannebaker
that the total number of missing players is three.
"The two (Noel Arguelles and Jose Iglesias) left, and the one left the next
day," said Pannebaker on Saturday.
Rumours of the third defection have been swirling for days. Cuban team representatives told Pannebaker the team had been treated badly by
the media, she said, and would not comment further, nor confirm the name of the
third missing player.
A man wearing a Team Cuba uniform said through a translator Saturday that
pitcher Raydel Sanchez was missing, and a scout at Saturday's game between South
Korea and Cuba said he didn't see Sanchez on the field.
Whispers have been circulating at Telus Fiend that a total of five players
are missing.
Tournament chairman and city councillor Ron Hayter was aware of the rumours
Saturday, but said it's likely they're confusing three additional Cuban players
defecting with three players defecting in total.
From: Canada
I am shocked shocked
From: Canada
they will be substituting the batboy and the guy that hands out the towels
From: Canada
will there be anyone left to play the game.....no one wants to return to the Gulag
From: Canada
they are dropping like flies in Edmonton as we speak .....5 Defected so far ...they are going to play the Batboy and a 62 year old Trainer from the revolution who was actually there working for the Cuban secret police as " Watcher " translate Security Stooge.....Raul it will be all over for you soon ....You are circling the drain....Your Speech was a bummer ....The Fans did not like it and they are not happy campers....But like the Players they, cannot walk away....It wont be long now...Even Obama cant save you now....You and Fidel better have Hugos home phone you may have to leave in a hurry
From: Canada
or you can always build a raft ......VIVA CUBA LIBRE
From: United States
VIVA QUEBEC LIBRE .. time for French Canada to secede and join the free world .. never forget .. never forget ..
From: Canada
good point sang ....but they get a referendum every few years to decide whether they want to change the name to Poutinville or whatever ....at least the Quebecers have their own culture...but unless it is gonna economically benefit them they are not going to leave
From: United States
Ya .. sure .. John .. if you want to call munching on frogs a "culture" .. and that strange nasal pig latin grunt is supposed to be some kind of a "language" ..
From: United States
John, I have to admit that they .. the French rather than the Quebecois .. have nurtured a rather impressive collection of scientists and mathematicans over the years .. particularly Rene Descartes .. Joseph Fourier .. Pierre Simon de Laplace .. Henri Darcy .. Joseph Lagrange .. mathematics as we know it would never have been the same without this bunch ..
From: United States
Pierre Trudeau .. perhaps the greatest gift that Quebec has unleashed on Canada .. a truly talented man who enjoyed wandering around in the deserts of Mongolia .. definitely not looking for leggy amphibians ..
From: Canada
no doubt they are a pillar of western culture....And there will always be a Frenchman there when he needs you
From: Canada
Prince Pierre proves the adage ....the only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman from Canada
From: United States
John, John, John .. easy on the mini-frogs .. Celine Dion .. she ain't that bad .. nice face .. nice body .. nice voice .. Frenchwoman is not bad oui?..
From: Canada
Piaf yes that is a voice to remember the schreeching Celine is not my cup of Molsons
Written by: Euromax, 3 Aug 2008 9:50 AM
From: Dominican Republic, Region Cibao
damn now players are being abducted by aliens wow xDD..
From: United States
John .. you must like something from Quebec .. Montreal is a great city .. looks like NY .. only cleaner .. ever noticed how much cleaner Candian cities are compared to those a little further south .. say Niagara Falls Canada just across the river from Niagara Falls NY? that I can wander around Toronto all day and all night and never worry about getting mugged or shot in the head? That people actually help you when you ask for directions?
From: Canada
dont go to Jane and Bloor the automatic weapons fire can be disconcerting....Torontos old name was Toronto the Good in the 40s 50s 60s because it was so boring and square...in those days Montreal was a city of sin and good times they knew how to live
From: United Kingdom
Goulet, u have calling this for sometime are u an agent ? In that case cut me in LOL
From: United States
Johnny Boy .. You are talking about the turf wars on Bloor .. typical inner city excitement .. it's nothing compared to SF, Oakland, San Jose .. Seems like you switched loyalties on your trip to the "Land of the Free" .. what happened John? took the "Oath"? to Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States of America? So help you Dog? Makes it easier to bad-mouth CANUCK LAND?
From: United Kingdom
Who the hell is this GhoulishColon, goulet, is he a friend of yours; sorry for my ignorance, I’ve been in china for a while.
From: United States
Talk to him John .. inquiring minds want to know .. he waits ..
From: United States
No need to be sorry for being ignorant .. join the club .. you are in the right company ..
From: United States
What the heck were you doing in China? Getting your brains bashed in by the "People's Army"?
From: United States
John John John .. you are just like a Frenchman from Quebec .. always around when you need us .. tell him I am an old, retired, unemployed, bum from San Francisco .. who has a family in Santo Domingo .. and spends most of his time flying back and forth between California and the DR .. tell him John .. his curiosity is boring a hole through his skull ..
From: Canada
Francois how have you been or as they say in Mexico Como Frejole....GHoulis is one of many nome des plumes of this our new Chinese American Psychotic buddy who joined us recently is well travelled and sometimes amusing when he takes his thorazine
From: Canada
I am leaving do not talk about me when I am gone ...Remember Sang when your all alone and lonely at home by yourself and the phone doesn,t ring ..... well it will be me
From: United States
See you on Calle Mercedes .. after church I am going there to check on a friend this PM .. will hang around the Pizza Hut in the Conde and then take the family to the beach ..
From: United Kingdom
"What the heck were you doing in China? Getting your brains bashed in by the "People's Army"
no making, $$$$$$$$$$$$$
From: Canada
Tabernac whats happening in Poutinville manny
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 1:25 PM
From: United States, Texas
Defection is a " conscious abandonment of allegiance or duty (as to a person, cause, or doctrine)."
http://reference.aol.com/dictiona....d=defection&lookupbtn=Look+Up Defect is ... " to leave one situation (as a job) often to go over to a rival."
http://reference.aol.com/dictiona....o&startindex=1&detail=yesWhat if the motive for going over to a rival is chiefly greed or sex? Is the going over then a defection? Does the person who goes over defect under either definition above?
What if a USA goes over to the DR to make more money? Does the USA defect?
The USA and the DR aren't rivals, you say. Hmm.
What if a DR or Mexican goes over to the USA for more money or for a lay, does he defect?
Doing the Bill Clinton term in the White House, the US regime issued entry visas to as many as 30,000 Cubans a year, who visited the USA and 99% returned home. Did they defect? Why not? They went over to USA and went back?
From: Canada
call it what you want you loser they are bailing out ...Raul the Fossil gives them no hope ....It is nearing the end for these swine ...they do not have enough secret police to repress the public
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 1:44 PM
From: United States, Texas
"According to the current collective bargaining agreement, the minimum salary for a major league baseball player will be $380,000 in 2008. The maximum salary in 2008 will be $27.5 million per year after a ten year, $275 million deal between the Yankees and Alex Rodriguez is finalized. "
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is...._for_major_league_baseball_playeroooo
The 3 Cuban players defected only to the money, for money is their main "person, cause, or doctrine" and mostly likely money was what they cared for before he went over.
They want to be the next Alex Rodriguez.
There was maybe 3 ... maybe THREE ... Cubans who illegally went over or sneaked into USA.
Well, today probably at least 30 Dominicans sneaked illegally into the USA
And at least 300 Mexicans illegally sneak into the USA.
But all the publicity goes to 3 lousy Cubans who sneaked away.
From: Canada
more like 300,000 and more still crying out for freedom ....they have had enough of the Special Period this and that they want to plug in their new rice cookers and not have to say like the little old lady in the Wendys commercial " Wheres the Rice "....Belial it is so over the natives are getting restless you will be out of your Stooge job soon
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 2:00 PM
From: United States, Texas
The 30 Dominicans and 300 Mexicans didn't "defect" because their respective governments in Santo Domingo and Mexico City want them to go over to the USA, make money, and send back remittances.
So, it's not the motive for going over to the US imperialists that creates a "defection," but the legality or illegality of the going over to the rival.
The Dominican and Mexican bourgeois states say to their citizens "go over there, right now" pointing to the USA.
So, we don't say the 30 and 300 "defected."
In contrast, the Cuban proletarian state says to its citizens "don't go, stay away," while also pointing to the USA.
So, we say the three who left "defected."
The US bourgeois state tells the 3, if you ever go back to Cuba and we catch you, you may get up to 10 years in a US prison and $250,000 fine. So, for the 3, going back is also a defection.
About 60,000 US citizens sneak into Cuba every year contrary to US law. These 60,000 "defect" to Cuba.
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 2:02 PM
From: United States, Texas
More than a million USA citizens want the freedom they don't have to go to Cuba legally.
Maybe two or three million.
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 2:23 PM
From: United States, Texas
The people of Cuba have the highest standard of living in LA/C, if one deigns to accept health care, education, nutrition, and housing as the chiefly indicators of living standard.
Only ignoramus denies Cuban people lead in LA/C in health care and education. Indeed, about 20 of the 35 countries of LA/C rely heavily on Cuban foreign aid in the fields of education and health care.
But philistines often deny Cuba's lead in nutrition and housing, because the leads in these fields are more modest than those in education and health care.
In nutrition, Cuba's daily caloric and protein per capita consumption is above all other countries in LA/C. But this isn't day much, given the famine and malnutrition that prevails.
In housing, with no homelessness, especially of street childfen, or shantytowns, in Cuba and a per dwelling density of 3.4 persons, Cuba leads the region in the main housing indicators. But since dwellings in Cuba are often in serious need of repair, big deal.
From: Canada
moronic logic on belials part
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 2:41 PM
From: United States, Texas
Because the Cuban people enjoy the highest standard of living in LA/C as a result of productuve and distributive socialism, Cubans rarely "defect" to poorer LA/C capitlaist countries closely allied with the US imperialists that have no health care and no education to speak of or where about two-thirds of the capitalist cities are massive and infinite shantytowns, or where starvation, famine, and malnutrition is everywhere except in the swanky neighborhoods.
The Cubans who "defect" only use such poorer LA/C capitalist countries closely allied with US imperialists as transit points to the USA, the bourgeois paradise.
The difference in living standards between Cuba and LA/C people is necessaries -- food, schools, homes, and hospitals -- for the Cuban people and often nothing or very little for other LA/C peoples.
The difference between Cuba and the bourgeois paradise in the USA is luxuries/necessaries in much of the USA and only necessaries in Cuba.
From: Canada
bugger off belial it is finito kaput fidel and raul are looking for apts in Caracas
From: Canada
So, when I read the other day that fidel castro, in one of his scathing Granma articles on August 1, (before a third player defected), accuses Canada of “stealing” the two young baseball players (Noel Argueilles and Jose Antonio Iglesias) who defected during the 2008 World Junior Baseball Championship, I thought of Denise Richards and applied her question to the article. How can Canada steal these baseball players? They are people, not objects, and they were not kidnapped, which I concede would necessitate the term “steal.” If they didn’t want to be “stolen,” they would not have made the decision to stay in Canada. If life in Cuba were the paradise the media makes it out to be, why would they, or anyone else want to leave? And that castro would use the terms “steal” (and in Spanish “saquea,” or plunder) implies that they are the property of the regime, which they are.
From: Canada
Were these young men happy in Cuba? Were they enjoying life there? Were they treated well? Did they enjoy the most basic of human and civil rights? I’m guessing no. So, when they got to Canada, whether or not they were “lured” with the promise of a career in the majors and the prospect of earning big money, I think the chances they would have defected anyway were good. They were “lured” with the prospect of freedom, and castro is too obtuse to recognize that. Sure, the money sweetened the pot, but freedom is worth more than a career in the big leagues, and we, and he, should give these young athletes a little credit.
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 2:58 PM
From: United States, Texas
There are about 100,000 Cuban revolutionaries who never "defect" working in about 68 impoverished capitalist countries which are often closely allied with US imperialists although these impoverished capitalist countries are savagely plundered, pillaged, cheated, and exploited by US imperialists.
Most of the impoverished capitalist countries of LA/C -- Haiti, Honduras, Guatemala, Paraguay, even Peru, etc. -- reach out to the glorious Cuban revolutionaries, seeking foreign aid in health care, energy, education and increasingly in other fields of endeavor. Cuba, for example, now often educates more of the doctors and engineers of these impoverished capitalist countries closely allied with stealing US imperialists than these countries themselves.
Philistine scum, reactionary rats, and imperialist running dogs foaming and farting at the mouth never heard of the LA School of Medicine in Cuba where thousands of low-income LA/C youth become doctors after six years of study/work.
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 3:19 PM
From: United States, Texas
"According to the current collective bargaining agreement, the minimum salary for a major league baseball player will be $380,000 in 2008. The maximum salary in 2008 will be $27.5 million per year after a ten year, $275 million deal between the Yankees and Alex Rodriguez is finalized. "
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is...._for_major_league_baseball_playeroooo
The cappies can't understand why a baseball player who makes about $240 A YEAR in Cuba runs away dreaming of at least the $ 380,000 a year MLB minimum wage in the USA.
GC, the slimy idiot, thinks its a "ideological" defection.
If slimy rats, like GC, really believe these greedy Cubans convert to bourgeois ideology, give them the freedom to visit Cuba and take their baseball salaries with them.
The two-faced hypocrites say "Oh no, we won't let them go back. They can't re-defect with all of that money. If we catch them going back to Cuba, they'll get up to10 years in a US prison and tortured everyday."
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 3:56 PM
From: United States, Texas
yes its more like 5 now heres the latest
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"FIVE"
USA probably gets five Dominicana sneaking in every hour, not every month.
Do the Dominican "defect?"
Cuban athletes who run away to the US imperialists have adverse and beneficial effects on revolutionary performance.
On the adverse side, Cuba's performance in national and international sport competition, a source of the nationla prestige, is hurt by the lost of talented athletes. This does mean that all or most of the athletes who run off to the US imperialists are talented. Most aren't. They just Cuban and presumed good until perfornce reveal otherwise.
On the other side, the runaways who earn big usually "remit" big, although big remittances are illegal under US imperialist law.
[Technically, only workers remit. Capitalists make current transfers.]
In 2007, the US regime grew alarmed over the rise of illegal arrivals and remittances to Cuba and formed an imperialist task force to stop the rise.
From: Canada
the slimy idiot rat says it is not just ball players...... it is everyone they have had enough.... not even Obama can help your pals now.....and their amigito the slimeball persian...They got an ass kickin coming to them by Bibi right around the corner
From: United States
Miracles of Miracles .. a bloody talking frog .. well what do you know .. seems capable of blurting a barely passing smatter of the English language .. quite colorful I might add .. I have never heard of this character .. some vagrant passing through .. but if he comes back ? .. I will be happy to take care of her little menstrual cycle ..
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 4:18 PM
From: United States, Texas
Cuban baseball players are in South Korea and soon will be in China in preparation for the GAMES.
These so-called "players" in Canada are suspect.
You must remember Canada is ruled by a mob of slime led by Stevie Harper, one of Bush's most devoted behind-kissers and faithful slaves.
Written by: Belial, 3 Aug 2008 4:33 PM
From: United States, Texas
Up to the 2004 return of LF, the DR was a good place to send illegal remittances to Cuba.
DR bank were most cooperative and confidential.
Now most remittances over the official limits are sent from Venezuela. Cuba has a branch bank in Caracas and US citizens/residents feel very secure when they send whatever amount of money they wish to Cuba from the Cuban or Venezuelan government banks in Caracas.
Because of the size of their salaries, Cuban MLB players are watched closely by the repressive bourgeois regime in the USA.
But the baseball players seem to able to find a way to get the money home.
If they give their mother or father a mere $1000, the repressive bourgeois US regime accuses players of money laundering. If they give their son or daughter $1000, then up to 20 years in a US prison if the player is caught committing the terrible crime of giving money to his parents or children.
But CAs send a lot of money home, giving the GOP rats in power the finger..
From: United States
Huh? I forgot my copy of Das Kapital in the toilet Son of Karl .. hang on while I retrieve it .. wow .. that book is heavier than the toilet.
From: United States
OK .. let's see .. I might be able to reconstruct it from the notes I took while in the toilet .. hard to read because it's all on toilet tissue .. using brown ink .. anyway here goes .. once upon a long time ago in a far far away land .. there was this Proletariat guy .. who worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked .. well you know how an infinite series can go on and on forever .. no use going on with the same endlessly rambling and boring regurgitation of Marx's famous Kapital.
From: United States
Marx's ideas and theories became the ideological and dialectical basis for major revolutions around the world .. and if I am not totally mistaken even the revolutions that took place on the Moon, Mars, Venus, Saturn and many other parts of the solar system. In fact even the movement of planets around the sun can be described by Marx's 1st, 2nd and 3rd Laws of Motion. Even the digestive system works according to Marx's Laws of Excretion. It excreted Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Che, Ceucescu, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Hugo. Hugo came out a little soft but you get the idea. Then if you add the list of intellectual luminaries that have embraced his thinking? They could easily fill up all the toilets at Yankee Stadium. Quite amazing really.
From: United States
John .. that's old news .. but Solzhenitsyn too was touched by Marx .. remember Marx's Laws of Excrection? The Excretion of Lenin and Stalin contributed directly to the creation of the Gulags .. without the Gulags there would have been no Solzhenitsyn .. and no book named "The Gulag Archipelago" .. in fact he credited Marx's Laws of Excretion for all the pages in that massive contribution to the world of literature. The Excretion of Mao ultimately led to the 1949 Communist Revolution in China. The Excretion of Castro lead to the Cuban Revolution. The Excretion of Hugo created a "worker's paradise" in Venezuela. That dude Marx was just out of this world. He was even able to Excrete Himself. I tell you Marx was way ahead of his time.
From: United States
But that's not all .. in addition to being a prodigious writer .. Marx was also a prodigious maker of babies .. oh yes .. that naughty man .. being fed up with London and it's muggy weather .. he moved to NY .. met and married a nice Jewish lady .. all Jewish ladies are nice what are you talking about .. anyway .. they had a bunch of kids together .. Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Gummo, Zeppo .. Chico, Harpo, Groucho formed a comedy troupe that later came to be know as "The Marx Brothers". There were no limits to Marx's pro-creative and productive abilities. So while one group of Marxists were blowing your head off. The other group was making you laugh your head off. How much better can it get?
From: Canada
Belial is a pathetic loser ...who I hope will go down with this rat infested ship they call Castros cuba...The Cuban people deserve better after 50 years of slavery...no more dumb stats about ration cards and tropical paradise ........this is totalitarianism and let us get rid of these thugs
From: United States
John .. it could have been done .. Cuba could have been freed under Bush-Cheney .. but instead of helping those most in need .. the two pathetic clowns went and attacked SADDAM .. they should have attacked Cuba and this whole problem with the cell phones, ration cards, phone cards, old Chevys would have been solved .. they would have been driving the latest Toyotas instead .. as we do in Santo Domingo .. we only have Bush-Cheney to blame for wasting our troops on SADDAM .. when should have been beating up on Castro. That's what we get for letting the Supreme Court put a swaggering buffoon in the White House. It's too late now. Like crying over spilled CUBA LIBRE. Pour another hefty glass of rum .. add some coca cola and just move on.
Written by: antonioj, 4 Aug 2008 9:05 AM
From: Canada, Oakville
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gouletcolonial, 3 Aug 2008 10:07 AM
From: Canada
dont go to Jane and Bloor the automatic weapons fire can be disconcerting....Torontos old name was
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I Think you mean to say Jane and finch, Jane and bloor I understand is on the parkside area
From: United States
Move to Pickering .. quieter .. better restaurants .. the bullets follow the drugs into Bloor .. snort .. snort .. the more you snort .. the more bullets follow you around .. into Mississauga .. snort snort .. turf war .. into York .. snort snort ..
Written by: Escott, 4 Aug 2008 2:09 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Sosua/Cabarete
When will nutty belial notice that Canada is not the United States of America?
Poor dope cant figure out it is a different country.
Sure dopey, all these cuban boat people risk their life to play major league baseball?
I wouldn't ever consider defecting to Canada no matter how bad things were, Way too cold up there.
Castro use to sell his women for hard currency. Now they go to re-education camp if they talk to a person from another country.
BELIAR will twist and turn anything to make Cuba look like something it is NOT. What a horrible place! I have been there and I would bet Beliar hasn't.
From: Canada
antonioj sorry you are absolutely right Jane and Finch and Sang wants to go out where everything has a radioactive glow ...Pickering ...He just wants to eat in all those oriental restaurants on shepard ave. in Asiancourt
From: United States
John .. I do not eat Chinese food .. I used to eat at the Pakistani and Indian Restaurants in the 1400 block of Gerrard .. rotis .. parotas .. chapatis .. ladoos .. biriani .. pilaf .. I like really hot and spicy food .. hot enough to burn holes through stainless steel .. I lived off White Road in Pickering .. which also has nice Pakistani and Indian food .. not to mention Indian food stores .. I also got very good West Indian food during the Caribana in Ontario Place.
From: Canada
where can we get a roti in DR ?......dont make me come over there and beat it out of you
From: Canada
In my day a Pakastani restaurant would not have made it on Gerrard st.
From: United States
No roti in the DR .. not that I know of .. I will be in back in SF pretty soon and they have decent Indian restaurants .. as do Berkeley .. Oakland .. San Jose .. Kicked myself for missing the July 4 fireworks under the GG Bridge .. best view is from the Berkeley Marina .. maybe next year .. I then head off to Vancouver BC .. then back to my lovely Santo Domingo.
From: Canada
Do yourself a favor and go to Chez Panisse in Berkley but you are a cheapskate and will never do it....Good working class Mexican food ...the real deal in Vallejo
From: United States, Houston
A roti, man what I would give for an authentic one. On the other had for Belial "The Misinformed", "Wanker from Wiki". "Communist Bootlicker" to quote GC. I was working in Venezuela when the Mission Medico was started. Hugo sends 300,000 barrels a day of Gas to Cuba for 300 cuban doctors to work in the Barrios. The premise is sound, free medical care to the poor. Except there is one problem, the embassy in Bogata Colombia was almost overrun about two months into the program by the cubans wanting to get out of Venezuela because they were out of Cuba. Mostly they were single and left no ties in Cuba. I personally know 2 of the individuals and they are living right here in Houston. Housing in Cuba, it does not belong to you it is property of the state and it is wretched, food is what you eat and you do not have a choice except for rice & beans or Beans and Rice. The tourist area in Habana is exactly that, try to leave the zone and see how far you get. Cont......
From: United States, Houston
People who are poor in the DR and Venezuela, Colombia etc. are better off than the poor downtroden Cubans. The cubans are ground under heel everyday. You make me sick with your commie manifesto crap. The premise is great on paper but it has been proven over and over again that the system sucks and does not work. If you detest this way of life so much and detest being free and having the ability to work where you want and attend whatever school you wish, Let me know and I will donate some of my airline miles for a one-way ticket to the fatherland of Cuba and you can go kiss Fidel's ass and ask him for a place to live . The questions still stands if you dare face the truth and answer it, if it is so great a place, WHY DO THEY LEAVE WHEN GIVEN HALF A CHANCE?????
From: United States, Houston
Which remind me of something, in my youth I had a chance to work in Brazil (in the 80's before the wall came down) and when we would be in the bars by the port in Rio, Russian cruiseships would come in and the crews would go to the bars, they would pay with poker type chips because they were not allowed tro have cash for fear they woul jump ship. They were accompanied by a political officer that were settle the tabs at the end of the night with the cash he was allowed to carry. Some freedoms they had, all manifesto crap, power to the people crap, they were more of a slave to their governement than any black was to the plantation owners of the old south. You make me sick Belial, you know what the difference between you and pond scum is, you can get rid of pond scum
From: United States
John .. There's a lovely ferry ride if you ever get a chance .. Tillamook OR and Vancouver BC .. nice seafood .. beer .. wine .. spectacular views ..
From: Canada
I once took the Nanaimo ferry to Vancouver Isl. in the 70s ...please note I said Ferry not Fairy not that there is anything wrong with that
From: United States
John .. Nanaimo and Simon Fraser University .. Vancouver is simply marvellous .. like SF, Vancouver is a cosmopolitan town and bound to have it's share of alternative lifestyles .. there is definitely something WRONG with riding Fairies .. for the Lord always meant it to be ADAM and EVE .. not ADAM and STEVE .. BC is certainly well know to connoseurs of the "Jolly Green Giant" .. Cannabis Sativa .. which imparts an entirely new meaning to the expression "going green" .. in case you need a reminder of your long forgotten youth .. did you grow up durinng the time of Nixon? Johnson? Kennedy? Eisenhower? Truman? Roosevelt? .. oh well .. we all eventually morph into old farts .. right John?
From: Canada
you got that right Sang....do you remember a paper called the Georgia Strait in Vancouver an alternative publication so to speak
From: United States
John .. I spent some time in Vancouver .. but not enough to partake in all the "greenery" or to know the city that well .. my friends in BC are mostly old, retired and conservative transplants from Toronto who are way too old for that kind of stuff .. they wager on a little Mah Jong .. shoot the breeze .. but that's about it.
Written by: Belial, 6 Aug 2008 3:09 PM
From: United States, Texas
p. 1 of 2
At Edmonton junior baseball championship, a 12 country and 46-game competition, the final results and standings were:
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...........................WINS..... Losses
1st....S. Korea ..... 7 ..............1
2nd...USA .............7 .............1
3rd...Cuban ..........6 ..............2
4th...Australia.......4...............4
5th..Taipei.............5...............3
6th..Canada .........5...............3
7th..Mexico ...........3...............5
8th..PR...................3..............5
9th..Netherlands..3..............4
10th...Italy..............2..............5
11th.Czech Rep...1...............6
12th..Russia.........0...............7
http://www.internationalbaseball.....korea-blanks-usa-7-0-for-the-goldEven with a severely harrassed and distracted Cuban team, the S. Korea and USA barely beat the Cubans.
The servile Canadian regime plotted with the US imperialists to harrass and distract the Cuban team.
Written by: Belial, 6 Aug 2008 3:12 PM
From: United States, Texas
p. 2 of 2
USA came out ahead of the Cubans because the USA played dirty pool.
If the US players had been similarly harrassed, the Canadian regime would have arrested those responsible.
More than 50 professional scouts and college scouts attended the competition.
Twenty-six players who participated in the 2000 event, in Edmonton, signed professional contracts in the United States, Korea, Japan and Taiwan.
More obnoxious that pro and college scouts were Cuban Americans reactionaries who infested the competition with intrigue, offering huge contract deals without authority of any pro team. The Canadian regime gave the CA reactionaries open-house privileges.
Puzzling also is how Australia at 4-4 is ranked 4th even though Taipei and Canada, ranked 5th and 6th respectively, both with 5-3, that is, a game better than the Australians.
That the Cuban players played as well as they did against dirty pool players testifies to their great and deep patriotism.
Written by: Belial, 6 Aug 2008 3:29 PM
From: United States, Texas
p. 1 of 3
The mighty revolutionary and patriotic passions of Cuban athletes at the Beijing Olympic Games rings out and shines through their stirring message today to Fidel:
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Message to the Commander in Chief:
The Cuban Olympic Delegation at this sister country, like the rest of its members that ready at other venues for this Summer meeting, is aware of your latest reflections that confirm your zealous attention to the Cuban sports movement.
We inform you that just few days short of the 29th Olympic Games opening, we are healthily proud of your attention both in mind and hearth, to our readiness to meet the challenge of a good performance, inspired by your example, and sure that you will be by our side at each and every event.
CON'T
Written by: Belial, 6 Aug 2008 3:32 PM
From: United States, Texas
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Amid fast accommodation to the local time, your messages have multiplied the feelings of unity, commitment and patriotism distinctive of this athletic mission, heir of a heritage of struggle that generate so many signs of love and respect at the now host People"s Republic of China.
It is an honor for us to confirm that we are willing to return with the shield, and if necessary on it, faithful to the people that fathers us and aware of the joy we owe to you, to Raul, to each and every country fellowmen and brothers Antonio, Fernando, Gerardo, Ramon and Rene, whom though unfairly withheld in imperial prisons, we know they will follow our respective performance, especially the baseball team that now has a new incentive to win the heroic performance of the junior baseball team and the World Championship in Edmonton.
CON'T
Written by: Belial, 6 Aug 2008 3:33 PM
From: United States, Texas
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We will compete with the same unyielding spirit of the Mambi Army in 68 and 95, a combat tradition the Ejercito Rebelde (Rebel/Guerrilla Army) honored in the struggle for freedom the victorious Revolutionary Armed Forces keep and will keep.
With such an inspiration and example we will compete and win the gold medals that our people and you expect.
Commander; count on our dignity, endless devotion and certainty of victory. Thanks for your example.
The Cuban Delegation.
From: Canada
and you will get an ass kickin just like you did in Grenada
From: Canada
and you will get an ass kickin just like you did in Grenada
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http://reference.aol.com/dictiona....d=defection&lookupbtn=Look+Up
Defect is ... " to leave one situation (as a job) often to go over to a rival."
http://reference.aol.com/dictiona....o&startindex=1&detail=yes
What if the motive for going over to a rival is chiefly greed or sex? Is the going over then a defection? Does the person who goes over defect under either definition above?
What if a USA goes over to the DR to make more money? Does the USA defect?
The USA and the DR aren't rivals, you say. Hmm.
What if a DR or Mexican goes over to the USA for more money or for a lay, does he defect?
Doing the Bill Clinton term in the White House, the US regime issued entry visas to as many as 30,000 Cubans a year, who visited the USA and 99% returned home. Did they defect? Why not? They went over to USA and went back?
"According to the current collective bargaining agreement, the minimum salary for a major league baseball player will be $380,000 in 2008. The maximum salary in 2008 will be $27.5 million per year after a ten year, $275 million deal between the Yankees and Alex Rodriguez is finalized. "
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is...._for_major_league_baseball_player
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The 3 Cuban players defected only to the money, for money is their main "person, cause, or doctrine" and mostly likely money was what they cared for before he went over.
They want to be the next Alex Rodriguez.
There was maybe 3 ... maybe THREE ... Cubans who illegally went over or sneaked into USA.
Well, today probably at least 30 Dominicans sneaked illegally into the USA
And at least 300 Mexicans illegally sneak into the USA.
But all the publicity goes to 3 lousy Cubans who sneaked away.
So, it's not the motive for going over to the US imperialists that creates a "defection," but the legality or illegality of the going over to the rival.
The Dominican and Mexican bourgeois states say to their citizens "go over there, right now" pointing to the USA.
So, we don't say the 30 and 300 "defected."
In contrast, the Cuban proletarian state says to its citizens "don't go, stay away," while also pointing to the USA.
So, we say the three who left "defected."
The US bourgeois state tells the 3, if you ever go back to Cuba and we catch you, you may get up to 10 years in a US prison and $250,000 fine. So, for the 3, going back is also a defection.
About 60,000 US citizens sneak into Cuba every year contrary to US law. These 60,000 "defect" to Cuba.
Maybe two or three million.
Only ignoramus denies Cuban people lead in LA/C in health care and education. Indeed, about 20 of the 35 countries of LA/C rely heavily on Cuban foreign aid in the fields of education and health care.
But philistines often deny Cuba's lead in nutrition and housing, because the leads in these fields are more modest than those in education and health care.
In nutrition, Cuba's daily caloric and protein per capita consumption is above all other countries in LA/C. But this isn't day much, given the famine and malnutrition that prevails.
In housing, with no homelessness, especially of street childfen, or shantytowns, in Cuba and a per dwelling density of 3.4 persons, Cuba leads the region in the main housing indicators. But since dwellings in Cuba are often in serious need of repair, big deal.
The Cubans who "defect" only use such poorer LA/C capitalist countries closely allied with US imperialists as transit points to the USA, the bourgeois paradise.
The difference in living standards between Cuba and LA/C people is necessaries -- food, schools, homes, and hospitals -- for the Cuban people and often nothing or very little for other LA/C peoples.
The difference between Cuba and the bourgeois paradise in the USA is luxuries/necessaries in much of the USA and only necessaries in Cuba.
Most of the impoverished capitalist countries of LA/C -- Haiti, Honduras, Guatemala, Paraguay, even Peru, etc. -- reach out to the glorious Cuban revolutionaries, seeking foreign aid in health care, energy, education and increasingly in other fields of endeavor. Cuba, for example, now often educates more of the doctors and engineers of these impoverished capitalist countries closely allied with stealing US imperialists than these countries themselves.
Philistine scum, reactionary rats, and imperialist running dogs foaming and farting at the mouth never heard of the LA School of Medicine in Cuba where thousands of low-income LA/C youth become doctors after six years of study/work.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is...._for_major_league_baseball_player
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The cappies can't understand why a baseball player who makes about $240 A YEAR in Cuba runs away dreaming of at least the $ 380,000 a year MLB minimum wage in the USA.
GC, the slimy idiot, thinks its a "ideological" defection.
If slimy rats, like GC, really believe these greedy Cubans convert to bourgeois ideology, give them the freedom to visit Cuba and take their baseball salaries with them.
The two-faced hypocrites say "Oh no, we won't let them go back. They can't re-defect with all of that money. If we catch them going back to Cuba, they'll get up to10 years in a US prison and tortured everyday."
oooo
"FIVE"
USA probably gets five Dominicana sneaking in every hour, not every month.
Do the Dominican "defect?"
Cuban athletes who run away to the US imperialists have adverse and beneficial effects on revolutionary performance.
On the adverse side, Cuba's performance in national and international sport competition, a source of the nationla prestige, is hurt by the lost of talented athletes. This does mean that all or most of the athletes who run off to the US imperialists are talented. Most aren't. They just Cuban and presumed good until perfornce reveal otherwise.
On the other side, the runaways who earn big usually "remit" big, although big remittances are illegal under US imperialist law.
[Technically, only workers remit. Capitalists make current transfers.]
In 2007, the US regime grew alarmed over the rise of illegal arrivals and remittances to Cuba and formed an imperialist task force to stop the rise.
These so-called "players" in Canada are suspect.
You must remember Canada is ruled by a mob of slime led by Stevie Harper, one of Bush's most devoted behind-kissers and faithful slaves.
DR bank were most cooperative and confidential.
Now most remittances over the official limits are sent from Venezuela. Cuba has a branch bank in Caracas and US citizens/residents feel very secure when they send whatever amount of money they wish to Cuba from the Cuban or Venezuelan government banks in Caracas.
Because of the size of their salaries, Cuban MLB players are watched closely by the repressive bourgeois regime in the USA.
But the baseball players seem to able to find a way to get the money home.
If they give their mother or father a mere $1000, the repressive bourgeois US regime accuses players of money laundering. If they give their son or daughter $1000, then up to 20 years in a US prison if the player is caught committing the terrible crime of giving money to his parents or children.
But CAs send a lot of money home, giving the GOP rats in power the finger..
gouletcolonial, 3 Aug 2008 10:07 AM
From: Canada
dont go to Jane and Bloor the automatic weapons fire can be disconcerting....Torontos old name was
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I Think you mean to say Jane and finch, Jane and bloor I understand is on the parkside area
Poor dope cant figure out it is a different country.
Sure dopey, all these cuban boat people risk their life to play major league baseball?
I wouldn't ever consider defecting to Canada no matter how bad things were, Way too cold up there.
Castro use to sell his women for hard currency. Now they go to re-education camp if they talk to a person from another country.
BELIAR will twist and turn anything to make Cuba look like something it is NOT. What a horrible place! I have been there and I would bet Beliar hasn't.
At Edmonton junior baseball championship, a 12 country and 46-game competition, the final results and standings were:
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...........................WINS..... Losses
1st....S. Korea ..... 7 ..............1
2nd...USA .............7 .............1
3rd...Cuban ..........6 ..............2
4th...Australia.......4...............4
5th..Taipei.............5...............3
6th..Canada .........5...............3
7th..Mexico ...........3...............5
8th..PR...................3..............5
9th..Netherlands..3..............4
10th...Italy..............2..............5
11th.Czech Rep...1...............6
12th..Russia.........0...............7
http://www.internationalbaseball.....korea-blanks-usa-7-0-for-the-gold
Even with a severely harrassed and distracted Cuban team, the S. Korea and USA barely beat the Cubans.
The servile Canadian regime plotted with the US imperialists to harrass and distract the Cuban team.
USA came out ahead of the Cubans because the USA played dirty pool.
If the US players had been similarly harrassed, the Canadian regime would have arrested those responsible.
More than 50 professional scouts and college scouts attended the competition.
Twenty-six players who participated in the 2000 event, in Edmonton, signed professional contracts in the United States, Korea, Japan and Taiwan.
More obnoxious that pro and college scouts were Cuban Americans reactionaries who infested the competition with intrigue, offering huge contract deals without authority of any pro team. The Canadian regime gave the CA reactionaries open-house privileges.
Puzzling also is how Australia at 4-4 is ranked 4th even though Taipei and Canada, ranked 5th and 6th respectively, both with 5-3, that is, a game better than the Australians.
That the Cuban players played as well as they did against dirty pool players testifies to their great and deep patriotism.
The mighty revolutionary and patriotic passions of Cuban athletes at the Beijing Olympic Games rings out and shines through their stirring message today to Fidel:
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Message to the Commander in Chief:
The Cuban Olympic Delegation at this sister country, like the rest of its members that ready at other venues for this Summer meeting, is aware of your latest reflections that confirm your zealous attention to the Cuban sports movement.
We inform you that just few days short of the 29th Olympic Games opening, we are healthily proud of your attention both in mind and hearth, to our readiness to meet the challenge of a good performance, inspired by your example, and sure that you will be by our side at each and every event.
CON'T
Amid fast accommodation to the local time, your messages have multiplied the feelings of unity, commitment and patriotism distinctive of this athletic mission, heir of a heritage of struggle that generate so many signs of love and respect at the now host People"s Republic of China.
It is an honor for us to confirm that we are willing to return with the shield, and if necessary on it, faithful to the people that fathers us and aware of the joy we owe to you, to Raul, to each and every country fellowmen and brothers Antonio, Fernando, Gerardo, Ramon and Rene, whom though unfairly withheld in imperial prisons, we know they will follow our respective performance, especially the baseball team that now has a new incentive to win the heroic performance of the junior baseball team and the World Championship in Edmonton.
CON'T
We will compete with the same unyielding spirit of the Mambi Army in 68 and 95, a combat tradition the Ejercito Rebelde (Rebel/Guerrilla Army) honored in the struggle for freedom the victorious Revolutionary Armed Forces keep and will keep.
With such an inspiration and example we will compete and win the gold medals that our people and you expect.
Commander; count on our dignity, endless devotion and certainty of victory. Thanks for your example.
The Cuban Delegation.