SANTO DOMINGO.- The Minister of Tourism on Tuesday said the release of a document by the United Nations Program for Development (UNPD) which slams the tourism industry is part of an international campaign against the country as a destination.
Francisco Javier Garcia said it was already verified that the UNPD document published in several newspapers “sought to jeopardize Dominican tourism. It’s not true that Dominican tourism is an untenable, but quite the opposite, it’s a tourism that’s sustained in time.”
He affirmed that contrary to what was disclosed all new tourism development plans stress the need to incorporate the different communities to develop those projects. “This statement which appeared in some newspapers seemed that it was going to unleash a fight between Tourism, Environment (Ministry), the UNPD …but things are already clear, it’s clear that it was to damage Dominican Republic’s tourism.”
Garcia noted that today tourism is the country’z main industry, which he said earned around 4.20 billion dollars last year. “It’s the activity which generates the highest amount of currencies.”
“And being thus we must have not only a preventive action, but of protection of this industry. It’s undoubtedly necessary to confront things like this. Naturally with the corresponding and measured moderation,” the official added.
Written by: mrios, 8 Sep 2009 3:28 PM
From: United States
4.2 Billion Dollars in Tourism a year, are you kidding me !
I'll have to ask where does the money go ?
Do we really need the UN's Control / Dictatorship ?
Imagine that a coalition of International Nations slamming the DR's Tourism $$ Industry which without it would perish.
I say simple.....DR out of the UN before it's to late.
Written by: juanb, 8 Sep 2009 3:49 PM
From: Dominican Republic
That's a very dumb idea. We need the world's help.
2009 competitiveness results: Out of 133 countries rated:
The DR is ranked in the bottom 10 in:
Institutions:
Diversion of public funds 127, favoritism in decisions by government officials 133, wastefulness of government spending 132
Infrastructure: quality of electricity supply 130
Health and primary education: Quality of primary education 132
Higher education and training: Quality of math and science education 131, Quality of the educational system 129
Written by: MannyTav, 8 Sep 2009 3:50 PM
From: United States
I knew it was big...didn't know it was 4.2 B big! wonder how much the state collects in taxes and how much actually ends up in public works or education etc., etc.
Written by: juanb, 8 Sep 2009 3:52 PM
From: Dominican Republic
Written by: xwill7, 8 Sep 2009 4:04 PM
From: United States, Chicago
and we will continue to grow
Written by: juanb, 8 Sep 2009 4:05 PM
From: Dominican Republic
And don't miss this one, also at DR1.com:
RD$800,000 at the ball park
Written by: josean, 8 Sep 2009 4:10 PM
From: United States
Hi Hater,
Are you reading juan's posts?
From: United States
same old childish crap. any critical assessment of the institutions is a conspiracy to discredit the DR. are these guys suffering from delusions of grandeur? why would an institution the magnitude of the UN seek to discredit and humiliate the DR? WHEN WILL THESE GUYS GROW UP, IF EVER? it is government by sandbox, for God´s sakes.
Written by: josean, 8 Sep 2009 4:14 PM
From: United States
Franky sounds like Charlie Brown:
"Why is everybody always pickin on me"
Written by: josean, 8 Sep 2009 4:16 PM
From: United States
dread,
Exactly the world is against us syndrome! He sounds like one of the 24/7 nuts on FOX “news”!
From: United States
Mrios, are you beginning to fall victim to the foolishness, too? did you read the article, and assess it critically, before calling for the DR to exit the UN? i respect you, sir, but do you think that if the DR withdrew from the UN it would make the news? call me a party pooper, too, but i have written several articles asserting that Dominican tourism, along with that of many other caribbean territories, is untenable, and unsustainable. my backside is sore from the lashings from guys like FredCDobbs, the erstwhile GC. hey, the UN did not write anything that is a big secret. i have not read the article, but i can guess what they say about social impact, leakage, resource depletion, foreign input, social contamination, and so on. can anyone point me to the article, PLEASE?
From: United States
Josean, i know you can dig this up. please get me a link to this article, you old muckraker .
Written by: mrios, 8 Sep 2009 4:58 PM
From: United States
Dreadlocks,
What better way for the DR to show it's dissatisfaction with the UN report, if not...In my opinion....I believe It could spell a future Economic Disaster for the DR if it stood by silently. Something is better then nothing.
From: United States
and you think that the DR would enhance its international standing and chances, not to mention respect, if it withdrew from the UN in some infantile hissy fit over a written article? come on Mrios, you are better than this.
Written by: Sajomero, 8 Sep 2009 6:28 PM
From: United States, NYC........Bajando roooomo
This report only states the obvious. If hoteliers are allowed to continue to build up our coast lines with all these hotels, in a few years time we will have a completely dead zone sorrounding our country. Slowly but surely they are killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. We will be left with eroded beaches, no life in our ocean waters and no tourist, remember tourism is all about appearances. A moratorium should be placed on all new or proposed constructions until things get up to par with the law. Its disgusting to drive through garabage heaps, open sewers and stray dogs to get to these "fancy" resorts. Clean up the sorrounding areas and provide infrastructure first, then carefully study proposals. If things continue the way they are, we will end up with a bunch of empty hotels sorrounded by ghettos and trash.
Written by: Vivacuba, 8 Sep 2009 6:34 PM
From: Dominican Republic
The UN is illegal and should not be acknowledged by any sovereign government. Period. This is an attempt to further bring down the economies of nations around the world led by the US shadow government. The UN is the HIVAIDS of world governments. Wear protection if dealing with them and avoidance is the best course of action.
From: United States
Calm down guys !
Save the insults for another day.
I have being trying to teach how to deal with bad news and not getting too emotional and paranoid
josean (from the United States)for one is always involved in a fight, chill out !!!!
Save your spent energy and fix things that are supposed to be fixed.
No one is out to destroy the Dominican Republic.
Written by: josean, 8 Sep 2009 7:07 PM
From: United States
Written by: Gringo_1, 8 Sep 2009 8:12 PM
From: Dominican Republic, Maimon (Bonao)
OMG Josean, Obama wants to be president of the UN also? Is there no end to the madness? Save us!!!!!!!!!
From: United States
we must get ridd off the un for good they are useless,we must make a monopoly of the resort in the country if we want to fix the whole country.
Written by: mrios, 8 Sep 2009 9:06 PM
From: United States
Look at the UN's History of always being "A LITTLE TOO LATE" I believe the UN has over passed it's bounds on this one.
One has to ask why Mendel with a Sovereign Country's Economics's ?
Flexing power ?
VivaCuba,
Your dead on....It's all about CONTROL threw OH'BLAMANOMICS, DA one Term Prez.
Dreadlocks,
Ever watch "Hotel Rwanda" ? one of many many failed missions.
Sajomero,
Good point, but....No Tourist, No Money, More Empty Hotels, More Unemployment, More Poverty etc..etc.. we'll still end up with Foreign owned Hotels with dead zones.
In my opinion half of the dead zones created are due to massive rains = massive flooding which find there way to our Rivers and empty into our Coast with tons of Human waste and Garbage. Since our Gov. turns a blind eye, why not have the ever so LOVING UN help the DR with its Ecological Problems for starters. We can pay'um back with free all-inclusive Hotel stays in Punta Cana during Rainy or Hurricane season.
All Take care.
Written by: zooma, 9 Sep 2009 7:37 AM
From: United States
What this article fails to provide is what UNPD stated that slammed the tourist industry. You cannot call them onto the carpet if you do not know what is it they said. We need to have the facts. Again, who, what, where, and how.
The article alludes that the tourism chief is afraid of any suggestion that changes the status-quo, that tourism answers to nobody.
From: United States
Dominicans can never take responsibility for their own actions.
Dominicans are the "international campaign against the country", their own country. Just visit and you'll see garbage everywhere.
They spend more on nepotism than on improving their own island.
Written by: josean, 9 Sep 2009 11:22 AM
From: United States
"Written by: gmiller261, 9 Sep 2009 10:55 AM
From: United States
Dominicans can never take responsibility for their own actions.
Dominicans are the "international campaign against the country", their own country. Just visit and you'll see garbage everywhere.
They spend more on nepotism than on improving their own island."
gmiller261
Truer words have never been spoken, but you know we Domincans have a very difficult time accepting the truth!
Why do you think I call Santo Domingo, Santo Calcutta!
From: Dominican Republic
I do not think the Dominican Republic should not be a part of the UN but prove that what the UN is saying isnt true or maybe just a misunderstanding, but never leave the UN and isolate itself from the world. By the way JuanB I went into the site you put there and yes we have a long way to go. We have made some progress compared to last years report but I am with you in this one, the process needs to be faster!
Written by: mrios, 9 Sep 2009 12:14 PM
From: United States
Zooma,
Well put, but.....We only respond and react to whats printed. Some times the Media themselves have limited information or just hold back for personal interest.
Josean, Gee Miller261,
Have you ever noticed the inner Cities of America lately or in the last 50 years or so, Ghettos, Garbage, Unemployment, Crime, Drugs, Gangs, Graffiti etc..etc.. [ all from the most prosperous Nation on Earth ] with "I an American" therefore the U.S Gov. threw Welfare, Hand outs and a host of many Social programs has the obligation / responsibility to assist me attitude. It's only gonna get worst in land of the Free and home of the Brave, the land of plenty Hand-outs. Not all People of 3rd World Country's Act and Live the way you described the DR. Sure we have our own Home Grown problems, but to think BIG Gov. is here to Save / Help sounds a bit Awkward, wouldn't you Guys agree. TRASH is TRASH and it comes in all Colors, Ethnicity and gender.
Calcutta is in a League all it's own.
From: Dominican Republic
I also agree with you mrios! Good Point!
Written by: mrios, 9 Sep 2009 1:03 PM
From: United States
Ojedamaggiolo80,
Just think.....Hand-outs, give-a-ways etc..etc.. all payed for by the Rich....soon to be poor, and the working poor soon to be.....unemployed.
I guess we'll just have to PRINT MORE $$. Good ol OH'BLAMANOMICS hard at work.
America......the soon to be.....the Future 2nd Calcutta if not careful.
Socialism & Communism go Hand 'n' Hand.
GOD save the U.S
From: United States
Hell, if it was ONLY the inner cities of the DR that are thrashed I wouldn't comment.
I am taking about gorgeous uninhabited areas of the DR being a garbage can for the Dominican visitor.
I was in Playa Grande on the North coast, went in the crystal clear water and felt something swish across my ankles. I thought it was sea grass, but when I tried to see it I could not. So I dove to the bottom and I saw tens of thousands of little plastic cups. I was sicken by the sight and I am sicked every time I think of it.
Then I saw a dozen Dominicans playing Dominoes drinking Brugal in those same little plastic cups. Within 30 seconds a Dominican crumpled one and threw it on the sand. No conscious what so ever and this was an adult. I have never gone back.
Dominicans are their own worst enemy when it comes to killing the tourism industry.
Written by: josean, 9 Sep 2009 1:51 PM
From: United States
Miros,
The only reason the “RICH” as you call them, I call them taxpayers including the recipients of the “aid,” have developed these social safety nets is because they don’t want the “untutored” mob rebelling in the streets.
You see the struggle is usual between repression and concessions. The powerful will repress the less powerful or powerless as much as the can get away with, but when they rebel then the give them concessions to remain in power.
I.e. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights legislation, the voting rights act affirmative action etcetera.
By pointing out the extremely unequal distribution of resources in DR, is not an attempt to deny that poverty and injustice doesn’t exist in other place even in the mighty US of A or that because it exist in the US or elsewhere it is ok for it to exist in DR.
continued:
Written by: josean, 9 Sep 2009 1:52 PM
From: United States
The point is how the resources we have, especially because they are limited and at a moment in time finite, they need to be more equal invested in the entire populace so every body gets an opportunity to develop and progress, not just the powerful and well connected.
Example a $750,000,000 METRO with an operational cost of at least $25,000,000 a year for 20,000 riders a day when the rest of 8,980,000 Dominicans will never use it is an extremely gross and vulgar abuse of power and thievery of national resources.
To paraphrase ole Winston Churchill; “Never in the course of (Dominican) human events has so much been invested to benefit so few at the expense of so many!
Written by: Camano, 9 Sep 2009 2:53 PM
From: United States
Oye Cuba, aceres, Monina you got it right on the money!
Written by: danny00, 9 Sep 2009 3:06 PM
From: United States
"Why is everybody always pickin on me", if u dont need the rest of the WORLD....ok! THEN GO FROM IT.....ALWAYS RIGHT!.... ok! most people i have spoken with said after one TRIP to the DR. THEY WOULD NEVER GO BACK AGAIN u know most gringos CUM for the LADIES DONT U?.....
and after the LADIES steal some DOLLARS from them, and they LEARN their lession they are also GONE 4 EVER.
WHY not CLEAN UP THE RIVERS, FIX THE ROADS, GET SOME DRINKING WATER [THAT U CAN TRUST TO DRINK].,stop the taxi drivers from going 90 miles hour with TOURISTS INSIDE THEIR CAB., HAVE MORE ENGLISH SPOKEN ON THE ISLAND [NOT JUST HELLO HOW ARE YOU]'........
Written by: danny00, 9 Sep 2009 3:11 PM
From: United States
clean up the country, stop throwing the garbage in the rivers, on the streets, in every empty lot. also stop the GUIDES FROM MAKING 30%COMM. ON EVERY THING THE TOURISTS BUY AT ANY SHOP THEY BRING THEM TO, COULD GO ON 4 EVER...... BUT ENOUGH SAID...
OK FORGOT.... STOP PEOPLE FROM GOING TO THE BATH ROOM IN THE STREETS MANY TIMES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TOURISTS....OK! SAID ENOUGH.... U DONT LIKE WHAT I SAID BUT I CAN PROVE EVERY THING I SAY AND U KNOW ITS THE TRUTH..
Written by: danny00, 9 Sep 2009 3:12 PM
From: United States
forgot the elec. u dont have any .....
Written by: danny00, 9 Sep 2009 3:13 PM
From: United States
and get real police to protect the tourists... not shake them down..... what a great island the dr is... smoke and mirrors...
Written by: danny00, 9 Sep 2009 3:23 PM
From: United States
thank u gmiller..... dominicans are their worst enemy, just go to costombar on any sat or sunday when they let the local folks on to the beach..... sh--t it looks like one garbage dump........ holly sh--t..... u will destory your self u dont need the un or any one else to do this... sh--t go to the campos... some mountains are covered with white paper plates the throw on to the side of the mountain after they done eating... ... u want photos be glad to send them to u.....one big garbage can..... tourist are not blind u know,
Written by: danny00, 9 Sep 2009 3:31 PM
From: United States
Then I saw a dozen Dominicans playing Dominoes drinking Brugal in those same little plastic cups. Within 30 seconds a Dominican crumpled one and threw it on the sand. No conscious what so ever and this was an adult. before the government step in u should have seen the beach in puerto plata..... what a beautifull beach it could have been..... every one was throwing their GARBAGE ONTO THE BEACH..... MY GOD WHAT A SHAME..... BUT THE NEW PRES DID GET TO FIX THIS PROBLEM..... NO MORE CARS CAN PARK ON THE MALCOM, NO MORE VENDORS TO SELL THEIR BEER AND FOOD, ECT! THIS ALONE HAS HELP TO CLEAN UP THE AREA...., AND SH--T THE UN OR ANY OTHER REPORT MADE PROBLEMS FOR THE DR.... IT WAS THE DOMINICANS THAT DID THIS AND NOT THE C.IA..... LOL WHAT JOKE
Written by: mrios, 9 Sep 2009 4:03 PM
From: United States
Josean,
That same trash problem exist in the U.S too. With every visit to a Park or campsite that small fee one pays goes right into the maintenance and upkeep, the rest is payed for by our taxes. Good thing I live in California all our trash in the wilderness goes up in smoke with the wild fires for everybody to inhale. Our Beaches are the best with "DANGER, POLLUTED WATER" more than half the Summer. In America were the Experts in Award winning Commercials like..."Smokey the Bear", "Give a hoot, don't Pollute", " Iron Eyes Cody", "Do not Litter" signs posted every where reminding all, and $1000.00 plus fines to boot. Good thing in America We keep REMINDING FOLKS. our Landfills are over flowing, there's even talk about polluting Space our future next Frontier. NYC produces more TRASH in one Day then the DR produces in one Week. Why don't the DR do the same.
Just goes to show you...Some People Talk trash, Eat Trash and Think trash.
More Talking TRASH on next entree.
Written by: mrios, 9 Sep 2009 4:38 PM
From: United States
SORRY ! got the Name mixed up.
More Trash...
Every morning when I awake I'll walk around my front yard picking up TRASH blown by the wind from somebody else's yard or from the Street, good thing the Street sweeper does a great job, weekly. In my Neighborhood we have free Graffiti removal all payed by....you guessed it, WE THE TAX PAYER.
And what ever you do...Don't drink from our Lakes and Streams and Rivers...not that I would do the same in the DR or any other Country.
Josean,
Every wonder....Ever time one buys Beer, Cigarettes, Soda, Gas etc..etc..WE ALL PAY TAXES.
Property, Income, Sales, State, Federal, Franchise TAX, TAX, TAX. With almost 14.5 Trillion ND expected by the end of September.
Not including the Oh'Blamacare do you think TAXES will go UP ?
TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION = TYRANNY.
"GOT TEA" ?
Don't get me wrong I like money & paying Taxes just like everybody else, I just wont Steal,Rob, Swindle,Con or Lie to anybody for it I'M OLD FASHION I earn it .
From: Dominican Republic
Heated debate: perspective:
Touritsts dont read UN reports before booking their vacations, they have trouble reading reviews or any info on the country they are visiting. They have trouble leaving their all inclusives. Tourist perception of DR is one of all inclusives, pretty beach,good music... Must dont care what goes on outside their all inclusive... its only a road thayt leads to their Vacation.
We are our worst ennemy ( that goes for every countries). Dirty beaches, dirty street, dirty country side. We have ways to go in conserving our enviroment. But like many problem in this country, it is a question of education.
Maya Angelou once said: "When I knew better ,I did better."
DR is years behind on many things, enviroment consrvation, education, driving safety, sexual education... all those subject we love to debate on this website. No matter how much time we spend saying this and that should be done, it took time in the US , Canada and Europe to rise the populations
From: Dominican Republic
We keep forgetting that it is not enough to say: " this is how it should be", "this is what you should do" . It took more than that for Americans, Canadians and Europeens to get there.
But lets not forget that we have our hands pretty full with lack of electricity, services, drinkable water, education, corruption.... blah blah blah... Some many things needs to be the priority...
Written by: mrios, 11 Sep 2009 2:03 PM
From: United States
Bleu_Raven,
True, nothing like a taste and a dose of Reality. To bad, like always it has fallen on Deaf DR Gov. ears.
Take care.
From: United States
Bleu Raven, you are a voice of refreshment in this wilderness. one of the problems we have here is that most people do not grow up and become adults. they think everything is either someone else's responsibility, or someone else's fault. so they complain about the mess, and two minutes later they throw their styrofoam cup to their feet. open a pack of cigarettes in a crowd and everybody asks for one. its the sense of entitlement that people feel that they should be taken care of. i do not have sufficient social studies skills to say definitively if that is a function of generations of living under benevolent dictators, but something is amiss. the responsibility which is an attribute of maturity is missing, and so we continue to go late to work, do as little as possible, impregnate women and run away, blame the next guy for our failings, and blame government for everything. maybe we have to learn to govern our own lives first.
From: Dominican Republic
You know what dreadlocks for the first in this forum I agree with you 100%. In the past we have bumped heads and disagreed on a number of things but I must say the problem here is exactly what you just explained. Yes there are many things that need to change and many things we do not agree with. The question is what are we doing about it other then criticize?
From: United States
ojedemagglio, there are issues on which we are going to agree, and there are those where we will disagree. that does not make either of us bad guys. i am an opinionated SOB, and i am s maniac for numbers. so, even though we might bump heads, it is nothing personal. i am gratified to note that you see things the way i do on this subject. simple anecdote:: i went to a bar to have a beer a few weeks back, and i heard a really blood inspiring salsa. i could not sit still, and asked the DJ for the name, which he told me. last evening i returned for yet another beer, and i asked him to play the track for me. well, he never did, and you know why? because i refused his request when he asked me to buy dinner for him. i mean, he is paid to do a job, just as i am paid to do mine. a part of his job description is to make the consumer of the products in his establishment happy. but he cannot see that. he is half my age, twice my size, and surely in better health. but he still expects me to
From: United States
feed him, because he has no sense of adulthood and self reliance.
Written by: Camano, 11 Sep 2009 8:44 PM
From: United States
dreadlocks, I'm really starting to like you, i like facts and numbers too. I just don't like to waist mine or others people time..
From: United States
Camana, though i do not get the gist of the last sentence, i appreciate your kind words.i sum up my thinking in small examples. i can open a pack of cigarettes in any bar in a place like NYC, and they will last me as long as i choose. i open one in a bar here, and 15 girls come over saying "regaleme uno". it is not as if they are hard core smokers, or they would buy their own. it is just that they see someone else with them, and feel as if they are entitled to share the spoils of other people's efforts. then, if you decide that after giving away 12, you would like to keep the rest for yourself, you become the bad guy, and the ones you decline refer to you as a cheapskate. go figure!
From: Dominican Republic
jajajajaja yes that is true. I have witnessed this!
From: United States
ojeda, i once had two DVD players simultaneously. one had a magnificent audio section, so i used it to play cds. the other i used for video. my buddy, visiting from NY, spent a few days with me, and brought home this girl, whom i had never seen before. on seeing not one, but two dvd players, she proceeded to blurt "regaleme uno". i explained that i bought two, for different reasons. she was insistent, and even became annoyed, reminding me that i had two, and she had none. on further inquiry, it was revealed that she has neither a single dvd, nor a television. she just felt that if i had two, she was entitled to at least one. go figure!
From: Dominican Republic
jajaja yea man thats why I don't bring home them barrio girls lol. Take them to the Motels in San Isidro lol.
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I'll have to ask where does the money go ?
Do we really need the UN's Control / Dictatorship ?
Imagine that a coalition of International Nations slamming the DR's Tourism $$ Industry which without it would perish.
I say simple.....DR out of the UN before it's to late.
2009 competitiveness results: Out of 133 countries rated:
The DR is ranked in the bottom 10 in:
Institutions:
Diversion of public funds 127, favoritism in decisions by government officials 133, wastefulness of government spending 132
Infrastructure: quality of electricity supply 130
Health and primary education: Quality of primary education 132
Higher education and training: Quality of math and science education 131, Quality of the educational system 129
All you need to know about us.
RD$800,000 at the ball park
Are you reading juan's posts?
"Why is everybody always pickin on me"
Exactly the world is against us syndrome! He sounds like one of the 24/7 nuts on FOX “news”!
What better way for the DR to show it's dissatisfaction with the UN report, if not...In my opinion....I believe It could spell a future Economic Disaster for the DR if it stood by silently. Something is better then nothing.
Save the insults for another day.
I have being trying to teach how to deal with bad news and not getting too emotional and paranoid
josean (from the United States)for one is always involved in a fight, chill out !!!!
Save your spent energy and fix things that are supposed to be fixed.
No one is out to destroy the Dominican Republic.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7d0c7a3a-9ca4-11de-ab58-00144feabdc0.html
One has to ask why Mendel with a Sovereign Country's Economics's ?
Flexing power ?
VivaCuba,
Your dead on....It's all about CONTROL threw OH'BLAMANOMICS, DA one Term Prez.
Dreadlocks,
Ever watch "Hotel Rwanda" ? one of many many failed missions.
Sajomero,
Good point, but....No Tourist, No Money, More Empty Hotels, More Unemployment, More Poverty etc..etc.. we'll still end up with Foreign owned Hotels with dead zones.
In my opinion half of the dead zones created are due to massive rains = massive flooding which find there way to our Rivers and empty into our Coast with tons of Human waste and Garbage. Since our Gov. turns a blind eye, why not have the ever so LOVING UN help the DR with its Ecological Problems for starters. We can pay'um back with free all-inclusive Hotel stays in Punta Cana during Rainy or Hurricane season.
All Take care.
What this article fails to provide is what UNPD stated that slammed the tourist industry. You cannot call them onto the carpet if you do not know what is it they said. We need to have the facts. Again, who, what, where, and how.
The article alludes that the tourism chief is afraid of any suggestion that changes the status-quo, that tourism answers to nobody.
Dominicans can never take responsibility for their own actions.
Dominicans are the "international campaign against the country", their own country. Just visit and you'll see garbage everywhere.
They spend more on nepotism than on improving their own island.
From: United States
Dominicans can never take responsibility for their own actions.
Dominicans are the "international campaign against the country", their own country. Just visit and you'll see garbage everywhere.
They spend more on nepotism than on improving their own island."
gmiller261
Truer words have never been spoken, but you know we Domincans have a very difficult time accepting the truth!
Why do you think I call Santo Domingo, Santo Calcutta!
Well put, but.....We only respond and react to whats printed. Some times the Media themselves have limited information or just hold back for personal interest.
Josean, Gee Miller261,
Have you ever noticed the inner Cities of America lately or in the last 50 years or so, Ghettos, Garbage, Unemployment, Crime, Drugs, Gangs, Graffiti etc..etc.. [ all from the most prosperous Nation on Earth ] with "I an American" therefore the U.S Gov. threw Welfare, Hand outs and a host of many Social programs has the obligation / responsibility to assist me attitude. It's only gonna get worst in land of the Free and home of the Brave, the land of plenty Hand-outs. Not all People of 3rd World Country's Act and Live the way you described the DR. Sure we have our own Home Grown problems, but to think BIG Gov. is here to Save / Help sounds a bit Awkward, wouldn't you Guys agree. TRASH is TRASH and it comes in all Colors, Ethnicity and gender.
Calcutta is in a League all it's own.
Just think.....Hand-outs, give-a-ways etc..etc.. all payed for by the Rich....soon to be poor, and the working poor soon to be.....unemployed.
I guess we'll just have to PRINT MORE $$. Good ol OH'BLAMANOMICS hard at work.
America......the soon to be.....the Future 2nd Calcutta if not careful.
Socialism & Communism go Hand 'n' Hand.
GOD save the U.S
Hell, if it was ONLY the inner cities of the DR that are thrashed I wouldn't comment.
I am taking about gorgeous uninhabited areas of the DR being a garbage can for the Dominican visitor.
I was in Playa Grande on the North coast, went in the crystal clear water and felt something swish across my ankles. I thought it was sea grass, but when I tried to see it I could not. So I dove to the bottom and I saw tens of thousands of little plastic cups. I was sicken by the sight and I am sicked every time I think of it.
Then I saw a dozen Dominicans playing Dominoes drinking Brugal in those same little plastic cups. Within 30 seconds a Dominican crumpled one and threw it on the sand. No conscious what so ever and this was an adult. I have never gone back.
Dominicans are their own worst enemy when it comes to killing the tourism industry.
The only reason the “RICH” as you call them, I call them taxpayers including the recipients of the “aid,” have developed these social safety nets is because they don’t want the “untutored” mob rebelling in the streets.
You see the struggle is usual between repression and concessions. The powerful will repress the less powerful or powerless as much as the can get away with, but when they rebel then the give them concessions to remain in power.
I.e. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights legislation, the voting rights act affirmative action etcetera.
By pointing out the extremely unequal distribution of resources in DR, is not an attempt to deny that poverty and injustice doesn’t exist in other place even in the mighty US of A or that because it exist in the US or elsewhere it is ok for it to exist in DR.
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Example a $750,000,000 METRO with an operational cost of at least $25,000,000 a year for 20,000 riders a day when the rest of 8,980,000 Dominicans will never use it is an extremely gross and vulgar abuse of power and thievery of national resources.
To paraphrase ole Winston Churchill; “Never in the course of (Dominican) human events has so much been invested to benefit so few at the expense of so many!
and after the LADIES steal some DOLLARS from them, and they LEARN their lession they are also GONE 4 EVER.
WHY not CLEAN UP THE RIVERS, FIX THE ROADS, GET SOME DRINKING WATER [THAT U CAN TRUST TO DRINK].,stop the taxi drivers from going 90 miles hour with TOURISTS INSIDE THEIR CAB., HAVE MORE ENGLISH SPOKEN ON THE ISLAND [NOT JUST HELLO HOW ARE YOU]'........
OK FORGOT.... STOP PEOPLE FROM GOING TO THE BATH ROOM IN THE STREETS MANY TIMES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TOURISTS....OK! SAID ENOUGH.... U DONT LIKE WHAT I SAID BUT I CAN PROVE EVERY THING I SAY AND U KNOW ITS THE TRUTH..
That same trash problem exist in the U.S too. With every visit to a Park or campsite that small fee one pays goes right into the maintenance and upkeep, the rest is payed for by our taxes. Good thing I live in California all our trash in the wilderness goes up in smoke with the wild fires for everybody to inhale. Our Beaches are the best with "DANGER, POLLUTED WATER" more than half the Summer. In America were the Experts in Award winning Commercials like..."Smokey the Bear", "Give a hoot, don't Pollute", " Iron Eyes Cody", "Do not Litter" signs posted every where reminding all, and $1000.00 plus fines to boot. Good thing in America We keep REMINDING FOLKS. our Landfills are over flowing, there's even talk about polluting Space our future next Frontier. NYC produces more TRASH in one Day then the DR produces in one Week. Why don't the DR do the same.
Just goes to show you...Some People Talk trash, Eat Trash and Think trash.
More Talking TRASH on next entree.
More Trash...
Every morning when I awake I'll walk around my front yard picking up TRASH blown by the wind from somebody else's yard or from the Street, good thing the Street sweeper does a great job, weekly. In my Neighborhood we have free Graffiti removal all payed by....you guessed it, WE THE TAX PAYER.
And what ever you do...Don't drink from our Lakes and Streams and Rivers...not that I would do the same in the DR or any other Country.
Josean,
Every wonder....Ever time one buys Beer, Cigarettes, Soda, Gas etc..etc..WE ALL PAY TAXES.
Property, Income, Sales, State, Federal, Franchise TAX, TAX, TAX. With almost 14.5 Trillion ND expected by the end of September.
Not including the Oh'Blamacare do you think TAXES will go UP ?
TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION = TYRANNY.
"GOT TEA" ?
Don't get me wrong I like money & paying Taxes just like everybody else, I just wont Steal,Rob, Swindle,Con or Lie to anybody for it I'M OLD FASHION I earn it .
Touritsts dont read UN reports before booking their vacations, they have trouble reading reviews or any info on the country they are visiting. They have trouble leaving their all inclusives. Tourist perception of DR is one of all inclusives, pretty beach,good music... Must dont care what goes on outside their all inclusive... its only a road thayt leads to their Vacation.
We are our worst ennemy ( that goes for every countries). Dirty beaches, dirty street, dirty country side. We have ways to go in conserving our enviroment. But like many problem in this country, it is a question of education.
Maya Angelou once said: "When I knew better ,I did better."
DR is years behind on many things, enviroment consrvation, education, driving safety, sexual education... all those subject we love to debate on this website. No matter how much time we spend saying this and that should be done, it took time in the US , Canada and Europe to rise the populations
But lets not forget that we have our hands pretty full with lack of electricity, services, drinkable water, education, corruption.... blah blah blah... Some many things needs to be the priority...
True, nothing like a taste and a dose of Reality. To bad, like always it has fallen on Deaf DR Gov. ears.
Take care.